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  • vyomguy
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-08-09
    • 5794

    #1
    MLB Runlines are not Profitable....Important Read for Newbies
    Here is a nice article on MLB Runlines:-

    Major League Baseball: Betting the runline isn’t worth the time or the trouble


    If I told you that away runline dogs were hitting at a rate of 65.51% in Major League Baseball over a sample size of 693 games, what would your reaction be? Perhaps a better question might be: What is the first thing you want to know?


    Or what if I gave you the opposite of that. What if I told you that home runline favorites over the same sample size were hitting at a rate of 34.49%?


    Which of these sides would you be more likely to take?


    Or what if instead of away runline dogs and home runline favorites, I gave you the opposite of those. What if I told you that away runline favorites won at a rate of 42.96% over a 291-game sample and home runline dogs hit 57.4% of the time over the same sample?


    The first thing you would want to know, of course, is the average money line for each of these different types of bets and the corresponding break-even points. And once you start doing the math, you’ll understand how foolish all four of these bets truly are.


    Because if you think you’ll make money, certainly any reasonable amount of money, betting baseball run lines, you’re sadly mistaken. And yet, many people try to create systems as the season progresses, hoping to find certain thresholds where profitable betting angles might exist.


    But there are no profitable runline betting angles.


    Why can’t I make money betting run lines?

    Let’s use the away runline underdogs example above to illustrate how small the profit potential is when betting the spread in baseball. I think we would all agree that hitting 65.51% is an incredible feat. If we were to project out the rest of the season, any reasonable person would expect that number to decrease at least a few percentage points.


    Money line underdogs dominated the early part of baseball season and had actually won more games than favorites through the first month. So, if that’s the case, runline underdogs are going to perform even better since they are catching +1.5 runs in every game.


    But since the average runline road underdog is -180, that means you have to hit 64.29% just to break even. That leaves you very little margin for error, especially if you are using a sportsbook that uses 15-cent or even 20-cent lines.


    If you look at the odds for any of the other three categories — road runline favorites, home runline favorites and home runline dogs — you will notice that none of these bets, regardless of percentage, will provide you with a profitable betting opportunity over a 162-game season.


    My suggestion is to bet the baseball money line, try to find +EV situations, and wager accordingly. Oddsmakers release the runline for a reason, and it isn’t because they like to give away free money.
  • Pro Bettor
    SBR Rookie
    • 06-13-11
    • 11

    #2
    Very, very true
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    • Shark
      SBR MVP
      • 01-14-10
      • 1789

      #3
      nice read, thank for that.
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      • thebestthereis
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-01-09
        • 11459

        #4
        there are times to take the +1.5, never -1.5. the sucker bet is -1.5 with +odds with a popular favorite or pitcher. that is for the sucker and people that don't know what they are doing take it all the time and in the end, get buried like always.
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        • Giant Rebels
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-09-10
          • 289

          #5
          I think betting in general is a losing situation. Even those u can track make bets that no one knows about and probably lose. I am giving it up.
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          • I/O
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 05-26-11
            • 7922

            #6
            As with anything, there's a proper time and place to use rl's. This article is just kinda shitting on the whole proposition entirely. I don't think there are any such golden rules in gambling. To ignore, not abuse, options available is stupid.
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            • Bostongambler
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-01-08
              • 35581

              #7
              Just program it in and let a supercomputer do the rest
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              • clairvoyance
                Restricted User
                • 06-06-11
                • 115

                #8
                that article is terrible. of course runline bets as a whole will show a loss, just like if you bet every single MLB game you will lose money. the only difference between runline and ML is an extra cent or two of juice
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                • Inspirited
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-26-10
                  • 1787

                  #9
                  Betting Away Favs on RL has done better than on ML in the database. Dogs on ML all the way. Of course, if you might be able to pick out bets that are better on RL or ML. Depends on how sharp of a bettor you are. math peoples can find value wherever it lurks
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                  • ElLoco23
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-22-11
                    • 233

                    #10
                    One thing that some people do wrong, is when they like favorite and if they feel the line is just too much chalk, they take the r/l only to see the team only win by 1 run.
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                    • IamAmonkey
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 11-10-07
                      • 334

                      #11
                      interesting write up...i very rarely use run lines. the small percentage that i do use( i have not tracked it) seem to hit and miss..
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                      • clairvoyance
                        Restricted User
                        • 06-06-11
                        • 115

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Inspirited
                        Betting Away Favs on RL has done better than on ML in the database. Dogs on ML all the way. Of course, if you might be able to pick out bets that are better on RL or ML. Depends on how sharp of a bettor you are. math peoples can find value wherever it lurks
                        where does it mention RL data?
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                        • Cookie Monster
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-05-08
                          • 2251

                          #13
                          It is silly to say that runlines are not worth it. They have its place in the bettor's arsenal. Of course, betting blindly will cost you. A few tips:

                          - If runline is 20 cents juice and moneyline is 10 cents, then most often runline is a lousy bet. You would have to find a price too off-market to overcome the vig.

                          - There are two important considerations for the runline besides favorite line and totals:

                          a) Type of offensive: A small ball team would end winning 1-run games way more often. A longball one may blow up or be whitewashed often, making the 1-run game less likely.
                          b) Bullpen: A quality, well rested bullpen tends to produce 1-run games. A sucky or tired bullpen may be blown up.

                          All in all, if you have access to a low juice runline it can be slightly more profitable than the moneyline in some cases. But it is far from easy money.
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