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  • grecycle99
    SBR MVP
    • 12-18-09
    • 3612

    #71
    Originally posted by littlecat
    Thanks grecycle99. Appreciate the hard work you do on all of your posts.
    Originally posted by mcmister
    I’ll co-sign the above! Thanks grecycle99!!!

    Originally posted by k310
    Thank you grecycle99.
    Thanks guys, Appreciate the love!
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    • grecycle99
      SBR MVP
      • 12-18-09
      • 3612

      #72
      UPDATED for 04/21/2021

      System(s) record Chase :

      Regular system: 18-4; Profit: 9.34 units
      Filtered System: 4-3; Profit: 10.61 units
      5/2 chase: 0-3; profit: 61.21 units

      Total (3 systems) : 22-10; Profit: 81.16 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

      Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

      Game 1 (A) win = 12-10; 4-3; 0-3
      Game 2 (B) win = 6-4; 0-3; 0-3
      Game 3 (C) win = 0-4; 0-3

      Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

      (A) 40.71
      -40.71-40.71-40.71-86.50-53.12
      (B)
      27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-55
      (C) 34.37-
      34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37

      REGULAR FOR 04/21/2021

      (C) San Diego RL 111 to win 3.44U

      Filtered

      No Play

      5/2

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      • MexMamba
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-03-19
        • 115

        #73
        Maaan this gotta stop what the hell are teams doing getting swept in home games....this got to be the craziest month all time in MLB with this stuff
        .
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        • grecycle99
          SBR MVP
          • 12-18-09
          • 3612

          #74
          UPDATED for 04/22/2021

          System(s) record Chase :

          Regular system: 19-5; Profit: 23.52 units
          Filtered System: 4-3; Profit: 10.61 units
          5/2 chase: 0-3; profit: 61.21 units

          Total (3 systems) : 23-11; Profit: 95.34 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

          Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

          Game 1 (A) win = 12-10; 4-3; 0-3
          Game 2 (B) win = 6-4; 0-3; 0-3
          Game 3 (C) win = 0-4; 0-3

          Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

          (A) 22.81
          -2
          2.81-22.81-22.81-22.81-22.81-22.81-22.81
          (B) 3
          7.41-37.41-37.41-37.41-37.41-37.41-37.41-37.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-27.41-55-40
          (C) 34.37-
          34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-68.88

          REGULAR FOR 04/22/2021

          (A) Boston -165 to win 2.29U
          (A) LA Dodgers -175 to win 2.29U
          (A) San Francisco -148 to win 2.29U

          Filtered

          (A) Boston -165 to win 2.29U

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          • grecycle99
            SBR MVP
            • 12-18-09
            • 3612

            #75
            Originally posted by MexMamba
            Maaan this gotta stop what the hell are teams doing getting swept in home games....this got to be the craziest month all time in MLB with this stuff
            .
            You got that right, don't know whats happening.
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            • mcmister
              SBR High Roller
              • 07-12-08
              • 236

              #76
              “ MLB: Underdogs went 8-5 SU with Rays-Royals closing consensus pick-'em; Brewers (+170 at Padres) was biggest upset with the others by Rangers (+158), Blue Jays (+113), D-backs (+155), Cubs (+113), Rockies (+129), Braves (+130) & Pirates (+113 in Game 1). Dogs reclaim lead on season at 127-126 SU with 11 games closing PK; Over/Unders split 7-7. For season, Unders still lead 138-118-7 ”
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              • grecycle99
                SBR MVP
                • 12-18-09
                • 3612

                #77
                UPDATED for 04/23/2021

                System(s) record Chase :

                Regular system: 19-5; Profit: 23.52 units
                Filtered System: 4-3; Profit: 10.61 units
                5/2 chase: 0-3; profit: 61.21 units

                Total (3 systems) : 23-11; Profit: 95.34 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                Game 1 (A) win = 12-10; 4-3; 0-3
                Game 2 (B) win = 6-4; 0-3; 0-3
                Game 3 (C) win = 0-4; 0-3

                Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                (A) 27.05
                -
                27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05-27.05
                (B) 29.09-
                29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09-29.09
                (C) 34.37-
                34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-34.37-68.88-55-40

                REGULAR FOR 04/23/2021

                (A) Atlanta -160 to win 2.71U
                (A) Chicago Cubs -145 to win 2.71U
                (A) Chicago White Sox -145 to win 2.71U
                (A) Minnesota -153 to win 2.71U
                (A) NY Mets RL -124 to win 2.71U
                (A) Tampa Bay -148 to win 2.71U
                (B) Boston -138 to win 2.91U
                (B) LA Dodgers -142 to win 2.91U

                Filtered

                (A) Chicago Cubs -145 to win 2.71U
                (B) Boston -138 to win 2.91U

                5/2

                (A) Boston -138 to win 5U
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                • mcmister
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 07-12-08
                  • 236

                  #78
                  Getting good traction to dig us out...nice!
                  Comment
                  • mcmister
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 07-12-08
                    • 236

                    #79
                    LAD’s get the job done for us!
                    The digging continues!!!

                    Thanks Grecycle99!
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                    • mcmister
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 07-12-08
                      • 236

                      #80
                      ... and Tampa Bay cleans the slate!
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                      • mcmister
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 07-12-08
                        • 236

                        #81
                        Braves
                        Brewers
                        Giants
                        Dodgers
                        Astros (9)

                        I think this is correct. Yes?
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                        • grecycle99
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-18-09
                          • 3612

                          #82
                          UPDATED for 04/24/2021

                          System(s) record Chase :

                          Regular system: 19-5; Profit: 23.52 units
                          Filtered System: 4-3; Profit: 10.61 units
                          5/2 chase: 0-3; profit: 61.21 units

                          Total (3 systems) : 23-11; Profit: 95.34 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                          Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                          Game 1 (A) win = 12-10; 4-3; 0-3
                          Game 2 (B) win = 6-4; 0-3; 0-3
                          Game 3 (C) win = 0-4; 0-3

                          Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                          (A)
                          27.05-27.05-80.22
                          (B) 33.54-
                          33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                          (C) 38.36-
                          38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36

                          REGULAR FOR 04/24/2021

                          (B) Tampa Bay -136 to win 3.36U
                          (C) LA Dodgers -142 to win 3.84U

                          Filtered

                          No Play

                          5/2

                          No Play
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                          • grecycle99
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-18-09
                            • 3612

                            #83
                            UPDATED for 04/25/2021

                            System(s) record Chase :

                            Regular system: 28-5; Profit: 13.59 units
                            Filtered System: 6-3; Profit: 9.23 units
                            5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

                            Total (3 systems) : 35-11; Profit: 79.03 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                            Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                            Game 1 (A) win = 18-15; 5-4; 1-3
                            Game 2 (B) win = 9-6; 1-3; 0-3
                            Game 3 (C) win = 1-5; 0-3

                            Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                            (A)
                            27.05-27.05-80.22
                            (B)
                            33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                            (C) 38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36-38.36

                            REGULAR FOR 04/25/2021

                            No Play

                            Filtered

                            No Play

                            5/2

                            No Play
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                            • grecycle99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-18-09
                              • 3612

                              #84
                              UPDATED for 04/26/2021

                              System(s) record Chase :

                              Regular system: 28-5; Profit: 13.59 units
                              Filtered System: 6-3; Profit: 9.23 units
                              5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

                              Total (3 systems) : 35-11; Profit: 79.03 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                              Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                              Game 1 (A) win = 18-15; 5-4; 1-3
                              Game 2 (B) win = 9-6; 1-3; 0-3
                              Game 3 (C) win = 1-5; 0-3

                              Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                              (A)
                              22.45-
                              22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45-22.45
                              (B)
                              33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                              (C) 25.86-
                              25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86

                              REGULAR FOR 04/26/2021

                              (A) Atlanta RL 112 to win 2.25U
                              (A) Houston -171 to win 2.25U
                              (A) LA Dodgers -185 to win 2.25U
                              (A) Milwaukee -168 to win 2.25U
                              (A) San Francisco -169 to win 2.25U

                              Filtered

                              (A) Houston -171 to win 2.25U

                              5/2

                              No Play
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                              • sunshine11
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-13-14
                                • 2634

                                #85
                                Go Astros
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                                • J.M. Disciple
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-16-10
                                  • 5125

                                  #86
                                  Hi guys. Good luck this season. Might start following soon.

                                  Why are you adding 1 unit (.5 units per #) to the line vs each new series on already what is a volatile system with lots of overlapping plays for the 3 systems?

                                  For example if the line is
                                  A) 10-10-28
                                  You have three new series. What I see happening is:
                                  A) 10-10-28-10-10-10
                                  (78\6)
                                  New line avg:
                                  13-13-13-13-13-13 or (13x6)

                                  Why not just try and clear the $48 on the line? Maybe it means betting less than 1 unit? If the wager turns out to be less than 1 unit, then maybe just make the line $10x6 so it's only a small increase rather than risking 1.3 units per play. Where the original $48 on the line between the 3 games would of only been to win 0.8u per play.

                                  "If bet size is greater than 1 unit when you average out the line, before adding additional money, then no additional money should be added to the line, but if bet size is less than 1 unit then start a fresh line at 1 unit per game." Hopefully that makes sense. I don't see the need to add $30 to a line instead of $12.

                                  Also filtered system is still using same A B C lines correct? So if line was 2.25 x 6 and have MIL at -170 for reg system and filtered system it's 7.65 units to win 4.5 each play or 15.30 units to win 9 units for that one game. Correct? Lot of added variance to the mix.

                                  I think a lot of people following are jumping ship because they don't understand how the system works or familiar with the labby. They see bet 2.25 units and don't realize that is "to win" amount or how multiple plays over lap. To follow all three systems probably need roughly 1,000 units to deal with the swings. I believe there were past seasons where some games were wagering or risking 20 units right? Would say a minimum of 500 units should be required to follow all 3 systems.

                                  I didn't look but how are the losses being handled? If A loses half the loss stays on A and half the loss goes to B? If B loses then split between B & C? If C loses? Where does the loss go?

                                  Thank you for any feed back and comments.
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                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 11-16-10
                                    • 5125

                                    #87
                                    Couple more questions
                                    1) if "A" loses when team is -160 and game 2 "B" they are +120 ML does the system play RL on dogs or ML?

                                    2) the system was originally designed as a chase system before the labby was implemented. I remember people wanting to add filters for qualifying series price and not just having game 1 qualify but series price as additional filter so game 2 and 3 don't have bad pitchers where team is a dog. Anyone know if this was ever looked more into?

                                    3) because this system was designed as a series chase and the labby does better with higher win % (obviously), but question becomes why bet game 2 for teams that are small favorites or even dogs that lowers the win rate? What happens if you use one labby line and bet 1) games that are -145 or higher 2) only bet home teams 3) still bet RL at -190 or higher.

                                    The system does well or labby does well with sweeps and streaks. But when it's high juice and additional units are being added to the line it is no longer a "basic labby" strategy. Becomes closer to martingale or half martingale at least.

                                    I know a lot of posters want "consistency" as most important part of a system and have it fully back tested etc etc but I do think some positive changes can be made based on the actual money management strategy that is being implemented.

                                    Thanks again for any feed back.
                                    Comment
                                    • grecycle99
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-18-09
                                      • 3612

                                      #88
                                      UPDATED for 04/27/2021

                                      System(s) record Chase :

                                      Regular system: 28-5; Profit: 13.59 units
                                      Filtered System: 6-3; Profit: 9.23 units
                                      5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

                                      Total (3 systems) : 35-11; Profit: 79.03 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                                      Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                      Game 1 (A) win = 18-15; 5-4; 1-3
                                      Game 2 (B) win = 9-6; 1-3; 0-3
                                      Game 3 (C) win = 1-5; 0-3

                                      Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                      (A) 32.07
                                      -
                                      32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07
                                      (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                                      (C) 25.86-
                                      25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86-25.86

                                      REGULAR FOR 04/27/2021

                                      (A) Chicago White Sox RL -117 to win 3.21U
                                      (B) Atlanta -160 to win 3.36U
                                      (B) LA Dodgers RL -113 to win 3.36U
                                      (B) Milwaukee -145 to win 3.36U

                                      Filtered

                                      No Play

                                      5/2

                                      No Play
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                                      • mcmister
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 07-12-08
                                        • 236

                                        #89
                                        Thanks grecycle99!
                                        Appreciate all your work keeping this up!
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                                        • grecycle99
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-18-09
                                          • 3612

                                          #90
                                          UPDATED for 04/28/2021

                                          System(s) record Chase :

                                          Regular system: 28-5; Profit: 13.59 units
                                          Filtered System: 6-3; Profit: 9.23 units
                                          5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

                                          Total (3 systems) : 35-11; Profit: 79.03 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                                          Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                          Game 1 (A) win = 18-15; 5-4; 1-3
                                          Game 2 (B) win = 9-6; 1-3; 0-3
                                          Game 3 (C) win = 1-5; 0-3

                                          Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                          (A) 32.07
                                          -32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-75.12
                                          (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                                          (C) 27.14-
                                          27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14

                                          REGULAR FOR 04/28/2021

                                          (B) Chicago White Sox RL -101 to win 3.36U
                                          (C) LA Dodgers RL 106 to win 2.72U

                                          Filtered

                                          No Play

                                          5/2

                                          No Play
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                                          • grecycle99
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-18-09
                                            • 3612

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                            Hi guys. Good luck this season. Might start following soon.

                                            Why are you adding 1 unit (.5 units per #) to the line vs each new series on already what is a volatile system with lots of overlapping plays for the 3 systems?

                                            For example if the line is
                                            A) 10-10-28
                                            You have three new series. What I see happening is:
                                            A) 10-10-28-10-10-10
                                            (78\6)
                                            New line avg:
                                            13-13-13-13-13-13 or (13x6)

                                            Why not just try and clear the $48 on the line? Maybe it means betting less than 1 unit? If the wager turns out to be less than 1 unit, then maybe just make the line $10x6 so it's only a small increase rather than risking 1.3 units per play. Where the original $48 on the line between the 3 games would of only been to win 0.8u per play.

                                            "If bet size is greater than 1 unit when you average out the line, before adding additional money, then no additional money should be added to the line, but if bet size is less than 1 unit then start a fresh line at 1 unit per game." Hopefully that makes sense. I don't see the need to add $30 to a line instead of $12.

                                            Also filtered system is still using same A B C lines correct? So if line was 2.25 x 6 and have MIL at -170 for reg system and filtered system it's 7.65 units to win 4.5 each play or 15.30 units to win 9 units for that one game. Correct? Lot of added variance to the mix.

                                            I think a lot of people following are jumping ship because they don't understand how the system works or familiar with the labby. They see bet 2.25 units and don't realize that is "to win" amount or how multiple plays over lap. To follow all three systems probably need roughly 1,000 units to deal with the swings. I believe there were past seasons where some games were wagering or risking 20 units right? Would say a minimum of 500 units should be required to follow all 3 systems.

                                            I didn't look but how are the losses being handled? If A loses half the loss stays on A and half the loss goes to B? If B loses then split between B & C? If C loses? Where does the loss go?

                                            Thank you for any feed back and comments.
                                            Thanks for your feedback

                                            First, I don't add 1 unit on every games that starts. What I do is trying to level the line for the new plays! Let's say for examples, theres 7 numbers on A line and theres 5 games starting on A. So we have 12-12-12-12-12-12-12. I had 3 X 10 to have 10 numbers. So we have 12-12-12-12-12-12-12-10-10-10 = 102/10 = 10.20 X 10 For this example, I only added 1.5U to 5 plays and not 5U.

                                            For the ones that don't realize that is to win amount, I put the line to win the number of units. For example, today Dodgers is to play the RL, the line I got when I post is 106 and to win 2.72U.

                                            For the losses, they stay on the lines. If A loses the loss stays on A. Sometimes what I do is bring numbers from A and put on B on on C and vice versa. The only losses I don't handle is the losses from 5/2 since they are not part of the labby wich account for 56U loss

                                            What I would say is just take the money management I use has a suggestion.
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                                            • grecycle99
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-18-09
                                              • 3612

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                              Couple more questions
                                              1) if "A" loses when team is -160 and game 2 "B" they are +120 ML does the system play RL on dogs or ML?

                                              2) the system was originally designed as a chase system before the labby was implemented. I remember people wanting to add filters for qualifying series price and not just having game 1 qualify but series price as additional filter so game 2 and 3 don't have bad pitchers where team is a dog. Anyone know if this was ever looked more into?

                                              3) because this system was designed as a series chase and the labby does better with higher win % (obviously), but question becomes why bet game 2 for teams that are small favorites or even dogs that lowers the win rate? What happens if you use one labby line and bet 1) games that are -145 or higher 2) only bet home teams 3) still bet RL at -190 or higher.

                                              The system does well or labby does well with sweeps and streaks. But when it's high juice and additional units are being added to the line it is no longer a "basic labby" strategy. Becomes closer to martingale or half martingale at least.

                                              I know a lot of posters want "consistency" as most important part of a system and have it fully back tested etc etc but I do think some positive changes can be made based on the actual money management strategy that is being implemented.

                                              Thanks again for any feed back.
                                              1) I Think it would work better on the dog RL. But I think that the system was to play the ml.

                                              2) I don't about this. Maybe somebody else can jump on this question.

                                              3) Home team starting at -145 have a higher chance to win at least a game in the series. This system is here for a long time. For me it's my 4th year posting it I think. Most of the year were very good, some were less. It could be worth a try.

                                              I just post the system with the old rules and the labby that was being played by on3. I didn't make the rules. I think this was fully back tested and have many years to show it consistency. I'm open to suggestion has long it's not changing the systems.

                                              Thanks
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                                              • J.M. Disciple
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-16-10
                                                • 5125

                                                #93
                                                I'm open to suggestion has long it's not changing the systems.
                                                First, I don't add 1 unit on every games that starts. What I do is trying to level the line for the new plays! Let's say for examples, theres 7 numbers on A line and theres 5 games starting on A. So we have 12-12-12-12-12-12-12. I had 3 X 10 to have 10 numbers. So we have 12-12-12-12-12-12-12-10-10-10 = 102/10 = 10.20 X 10 For this example, I only added 1.5U to 5 plays and not 5U.
                                                Mostly want to address this part. I misspoke a little bit earlier when I said adding 3 units instead of 1.5. I understand you are adding $10 or half unit for each additional number you add to the line. My main question is why do you need to add any additional money to the line at all?

                                                in your ($12 x 7) example but have 5 games, so add three numbers ($10 x 3) to the line, so you have two numbers to cross out for each game and add one number when you lose (total loss). I understand that, but I think you are just increasing the volatility of the system. For the labby to work consistently at 33.33% win rate being cross 2 or add 1 it does not involve adding additional numbers to the line. I understand the reason you do it is because it is just easier to manage this way. There are many variations of doing it though.
                                                One method I used to use is capping my line at 6#s but playing a "1 strike" method. Being bet one # on the line when I win (cross one), add one # (total loss) when I lose. This means need greater than 50% win rate though, which shouldn't be a problem with -145+ juice on a lot of games. Then in order to clear the line or recover some of the losses, so I get to the point where my line is $30-$30-$30-$30-$30-$30 or ($30 x 6) my line is capped at 6#s. When I lose that day, the loss is just spread evenly among the line. Losing $30 just adds $5 to each # or ($35 x 6) for the next set of games. It is a very similar concept just less volatile. Also means less profit but less of a chance of busting your bankroll.

                                                Back to the ($12 x 7) and adding ($10 x 3) though. When you have $12 x 7 or $84 on your line but have 5 games or need 10#s. why not just do $8.4 x 10 and not add additional money? Of course this would be to win 0.84 units per game. The part I am disagreeing with is making the bet size greater than one unit to fulfill this labby management. You are going from $16.80 per game on original line to ($84 + $30) / 5 = $22.80 per game or 35% increase on each wager. The "$102 / 10" was off on the math because you left off $12.

                                                Also wanted to look at some bigger lines as better examples
                                                (A) 32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-32.07-75.12
                                                (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                                                (C) 27.14-
                                                27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14
                                                These lines here are pretty big already compared to starting line of 10-10-10-10 etc. Where they have grown over 3x on average.

                                                but lets look closely at line B. 7 #s on the line ($33.54 x 7) I am not sure why you write it all out instead of just writing it as I do, looks way more clean and organized. but if you have 4 games you would do (($33.54 x 7) + $10) / 8 right? = ($30.60 x 8) or 3.06u per game. compared to if you just take (($33.54 x 7)) / 8 = ( $29.35 x 8 ) or to win 2.94u per game so difference is 0.12 units per game a small increase, but long run these small increases are being compounded the longer it takes to clear the line and get a sweep.

                                                Lastly I do not see the need to have multiple lines in general. Manage one line correctly and you recover your losses if a team doesn't get swept. Otherwise you are relying on A wagers that lose to be recovered by the next teams A wagers right? If series was designed around 96% of home teams don't get swept, why not use the same line to recover the loss?

                                                Lastly do you have an excel sheet with all the plays? I can go back through the thread and get all the plays with the MLs, but I would want to compare the labby I am talking about with one line and not adding additional units to the line to how you managed this years labby. I'm sure both would be losing given the odds and record so far. Just want to see if single line is losing less or not and see how inflated it is by adding additional half units per # to have 2 strike method for the labby.

                                                Then off topic I also wanted to test home favorites -150+ and total 9+ similar to the filter system, but not based on series chase. Just use labby to manage the money and daily MLB plays. If LAD is -180 and they win and they are -180 the next day with total of 9 I would just continue to bet them. Will save this for another thread once I test it though. Don't want to get too off topic.
                                                Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 04-28-21, 02:07 PM.
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                                                • J.M. Disciple
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                                                  #94
                                                  DATE TEAM ABC RL / ML ODDS SCORE WIN / LOSS
                                                  1-Apr CHC A RL 106
                                                  1-Apr KC A ML -149
                                                  1-Apr NYY A ML -172
                                                  1-Apr SD A RL -117
                                                  2-Apr BOS A ML -174
                                                  2-Apr SD B RL -106
                                                  3-Apr BOS B ML -167
                                                  3-Apr CHC B ML -165
                                                  3-Apr NYY B ML -161
                                                  4-Apr BOS C ML -163
                                                  5-Apr CIN A ML -147
                                                  5-Apr SD A ML -149
                                                  5-Apr NYY A RL -112
                                                  6-Apr SD B ML -185
                                                  7-Apr NO PLAY
                                                  8-Apr CWS A ML -165
                                                  8-Apr HOU A ML -151
                                                  8-Apr MIN A RL 102
                                                  8-Apr NYM A ML -182
                                                  9-Apr CLE A ML -184
                                                  9-Apr LAD A RL -142
                                                  9-Apr SF A ML -155
                                                  10-Apr LAD B RL -161
                                                  11-Apr NO PLAY
                                                  12-Apr HOU A RL -111
                                                  12-Apr STL A ML -147
                                                  12-Apr TB A RL 102
                                                  13-Apr LAD A RL -140
                                                  13-Apr NYM A ML -150
                                                  13-Apr HOU B ML -185
                                                  13-Apr TB B ML -169
                                                  14-Apr HOU C RL -115
                                                  14-Apr TB C ML -187
                                                  15-Apr OAK A ML -163
                                                  15-Apr WAS A ML -170
                                                  16-Apr NYY A ML -150
                                                  16-Apr WAS B ML -187
                                                  17-Apr NYY B ML -109
                                                  18-Apr NYY C RL -112
                                                  19-Apr LAA A RL -106
                                                  19-Apr SD A ML -157
                                                  20-Apr LAA B ML -181
                                                  20-Apr SD B ML -115
                                                  21-Apr SD C RL 111
                                                  22-Apr BOS A ML -165
                                                  22-Apr LAD A ML -175
                                                  22-Apr SF A ML -148
                                                  23-Apr ATL A ML -160
                                                  23-Apr CHC A ML -145
                                                  23-Apr CWS A ML -145
                                                  23-Apr MIN A ML -153
                                                  23-Apr NYM A RL -124
                                                  23-Apr TB A ML -148
                                                  23-Apr BOS B ML -138
                                                  23-Apr LAD B ML -142
                                                  24-Apr TB B ML -136
                                                  24-Apr LAD C ML -142
                                                  25-Apr NO PLAY
                                                  26-Apr ATL A RL 112
                                                  26-Apr HOU A ML -171
                                                  26-Apr LAD A ML -185
                                                  26-Apr MIL A ML -168
                                                  26-Apr SF A ML -169
                                                  27-Apr CWS A RL -117
                                                  27-Apr ATL B ML -160
                                                  27-Apr LAD B RL -113
                                                  27-Apr MIL B ML -145
                                                  28-Apr CWS B RL -101
                                                  28-Apr LAD C RL 106
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                                                  • J.M. Disciple
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                                                    #95
                                                    Making a spread sheet and will show the labby variation when I am done. I will only add additional money to the line if when I average it the bet size is less than 1 unit, which case I will bet to win one unit. If labby comes out to $8.4 x 10 I will make it $10 x 10. I want to compare this one and also the one strike method with 6# cap I talked about above as well. Think there was only one day where there were 8 plays, but will just keep splitting the amount on the line to however many #s I need for the day. Very simple process. Also I am only testing the "regular system" not going to have over lapping plays because on a "bad run" things can get really ugly and I just find it slightly greedy. System is based on loss recovery and not actual EV of each game. I don't see the need to double down on any games because of this.
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                                                    • grecycle99
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                                                      • 12-18-09
                                                      • 3612

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                      Mostly want to address this part. I misspoke a little bit earlier when I said adding 3 units instead of 1.5. I understand you are adding $10 or half unit for each additional number you add to the line. My main question is why do you need to add any additional money to the line at all?

                                                      in your ($12 x 7) example but have 5 games, so add three numbers ($10 x 3) to the line, so you have two numbers to cross out for each game and add one number when you lose (total loss). I understand that, but I think you are just increasing the volatility of the system. For the labby to work consistently at 33.33% win rate being cross 2 or add 1 it does not involve adding additional numbers to the line. I understand the reason you do it is because it is just easier to manage this way. There are many variations of doing it though.
                                                      One method I used to use is capping my line at 6#s but playing a "1 strike" method. Being bet one # on the line when I win (cross one), add one # (total loss) when I lose. This means need greater than 50% win rate though, which shouldn't be a problem with -145+ juice on a lot of games. Then in order to clear the line or recover some of the losses, so I get to the point where my line is $30-$30-$30-$30-$30-$30 or ($30 x 6) my line is capped at 6#s. When I lose that day, the loss is just spread evenly among the line. Losing $30 just adds $5 to each # or ($35 x 6) for the next set of games. It is a very similar concept just less volatile. Also means less profit but less of a chance of busting your bankroll.

                                                      Back to the ($12 x 7) and adding ($10 x 3) though. When you have $12 x 7 or $84 on your line but have 5 games or need 10#s. why not just do $8.4 x 10 and not add additional money? Of course this would be to win 0.84 units per game. The part I am disagreeing with is making the bet size greater than one unit to fulfill this labby management. You are going from $16.80 per game on original line to ($84 + $30) / 5 = $22.80 per game or 35% increase on each wager. The "$102 / 10" was off on the math because you left off $12.

                                                      Also wanted to look at some bigger lines as better examples

                                                      These lines here are pretty big already compared to starting line of 10-10-10-10 etc. Where they have grown over 3x on average.

                                                      but lets look closely at line B. 7 #s on the line ($33.54 x 7) I am not sure why you write it all out instead of just writing it as I do, looks way more clean and organized. but if you have 4 games you would do (($33.54 x 7) + $10) / 8 right? = ($30.60 x 8) or 3.06u per game. compared to if you just take (($33.54 x 7)) / 8 = ( $29.35 x 8 ) or to win 2.94u per game so difference is 0.12 units per game a small increase, but long run these small increases are being compounded the longer it takes to clear the line and get a sweep.

                                                      Lastly I do not see the need to have multiple lines in general. Manage one line correctly and you recover your losses if a team doesn't get swept. Otherwise you are relying on A wagers that lose to be recovered by the next teams A wagers right? If series was designed around 96% of home teams don't get swept, why not use the same line to recover the loss?

                                                      Lastly do you have an excel sheet with all the plays? I can go back through the thread and get all the plays with the MLs, but I would want to compare the labby I am talking about with one line and not adding additional units to the line to how you managed this years labby. I'm sure both would be losing given the odds and record so far. Just want to see if single line is losing less or not and see how inflated it is by adding additional half units per # to have 2 strike method for the labby.

                                                      Then off topic I also wanted to test home favorites -150+ and total 9+ similar to the filter system, but not based on series chase. Just use labby to manage the money and daily MLB plays. If LAD is -180 and they win and they are -180 the next day with total of 9 I would just continue to bet them. Will save this for another thread once I test it though. Don't want to get too off topic.
                                                      Usually, what I do is add numbers from other lines. Thats what seems to be added half units. Maybe I added some units at some points. Usually what I do is for example, you have 7 X 12 on A, 8 X 22 on B and 10 X 30 on C. If 5 series start on A bets, I would bring 64 from C to make 10 X 15 on A, 8 X 22 on B and 10 X 23.6 on C. And I never add new units on B or C.

                                                      It's true I could wrote it that way, I don't know why I did the other way. I will change it. For me using 3 lines for A, B and C is more user friendly than only 1 line for the 3. 1 or 3 is not changing nothing since I bring numbers from A, to B or C and Vice versa.

                                                      No sorry I don't have an excel sheet for this system. I think it would change nothing since I don't add additionnal units on the labby at least most of the time. I think I added some at the beginning but not since the losses. I think also that On3 used to start the labby after april my bad for that. This could make a difference and would avoid the debut losses. The losses would have been bigger just on chases but The beginning should have been played on a half unit basis.

                                                      I would like to see how a system like that would average on home fav, would surely follow.

                                                      Thanks
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                                                      • grecycle99
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                                                        • 12-18-09
                                                        • 3612

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                        Making a spread sheet and will show the labby variation when I am done. I will only add additional money to the line if when I average it the bet size is less than 1 unit, which case I will bet to win one unit. If labby comes out to $8.4 x 10 I will make it $10 x 10. I want to compare this one and also the one strike method with 6# cap I talked about above as well. Think there was only one day where there were 8 plays, but will just keep splitting the amount on the line to however many #s I need for the day. Very simple process. Also I am only testing the "regular system" not going to have over lapping plays because on a "bad run" things can get really ugly and I just find it slightly greedy. System is based on loss recovery and not actual EV of each game. I don't see the need to double down on any games because of this.
                                                        No problem my friend. By overlapping, do you mean plays that are on regular and filtered? Thanks
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                                                        • J.M. Disciple
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                                                          #98
                                                          overlapping, do you mean plays that are on regular and filtered?
                                                          yes.

                                                          Thanks for break down above. Glad you are moving numbers from C to A or B to A or C etc.. If numbers are being shifted around then it won't matter much if one line or three. I do agree three lines can be more user friendly. I'll check in find a link to a "vertical labby" someone apparently used in Vegas to make a ton of money. I don't want to explain it incorrectly without finding the link first. Will be some what similar to your 3 liner strategy though.

                                                          One last thing I will point out though. when you have 3 series and you start first line as A) 10-10-10-10-10-10 and say two out of the three games lose at -150 odds. The 10-10-10-10-x-x becomes 10-10-10-10-30-30 correct? Then when those two series goes to B line how are you choosing bet amount? Because B line starts off empty right? Are you still doing 1 unit or would you move the two 30s down and two Tens down? 10-10-30-30 for the B game, so two units each? What I am getting it is if you add ($10 x 6) or 3 units for the start of three series, then start a fresh B line say 10-10-10-10 for the B wagers, you have added a total of 5 units to the line(s) for those three series. I think this only happens in the beginning of fresh lines though and why I was saying maybe should try one line instead of three, but this would be the main difference in the two strategies in the beginning at least. I'll go see if I can find the link for vertical labby and thanks for the responses. Appreciate the details you give.
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                                                          • J.M. Disciple
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                                                            #99
                                                            @grecycle99 https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14522.0 This is not the exact link I was trying to find, but very similar strategy to what I was looking for. I don't think I need to explain it on here, they do a good job of explaining it on their forums. They have some horrible stretches of losses only hitting 39% over 140 spins but still show profit using the strategy.
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                                                            • J.M. Disciple
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                                                              #100
                                                              Game 1 (A) win = 18-15; 5-4; 1-3
                                                              Game 2 (B) win = 9-6; 1-3; 0-3
                                                              Game 3 (C) win = 1-5; 0-3
                                                              For regular system based on the plays posted I have record at 32 wins - 33 losses including the plays today. Let me know what games are wrong?

                                                              DATE TEAM ABC RL / ML ODDS odds SCORE WIN / LOSS LABBY RISK TO WIN PROFIT TOTAL NOTES
                                                              1-Apr CHC A RL 106 1.06 3 to 5 LOSS $10 x 8 $20.00 $21 ($20) ($20)
                                                              1-Apr KC A ML -149 1.49 14 to 10 WIN $29.80 $20 $20 $0
                                                              1-Apr NYY A ML -172 1.72 2 to 3 LOSS $34.40 $20 ($34.40) ($34)
                                                              1-Apr SD A RL -117 1.17 8 to 7 LOSS $23.40 $20 ($23.40) ($58)
                                                              2-Apr BOS A ML -174 1.74 0 to 3 LOSS $15 x 9 $52.20 $30 ($52.20) ($110)
                                                              2-Apr SD B RL -106 1.06 4 to 2 WIN $31.80 $30 $30 ($80)
                                                              3-Apr BOS B ML -167 1.67 2 to 4 LOSS $20 x 8 $66.80 $40 ($66.80) ($147)
                                                              3-Apr CHC B ML -165 1.65 5 to 1 WIN $66.00 $40 $40 ($107)
                                                              3-Apr NYY B ML -161 1.61 1 to 3 LOSS $64.40 $40 ($64.40) ($171)
                                                              4-Apr BOS C ML -163 1.63 3 to 11 LOSS $31 x 8 $101.06 $62 ($101.06) ($272)
                                                              5-Apr CIN A ML -147 1.47 5 to 3 WIN $39 x 9 $114.66 $78 $78 ($194)
                                                              5-Apr SD A ML -149 1.49 2 to 3 LOSS $116.22 $78 ($116.22) ($310)
                                                              5-Apr NYY A RL -112 1.12 7 to 0 WIN $87.36 $78 $78 ($232)
                                                              6-Apr SD B ML -185 1.85 3 to 1 WIN $52 x 6 $192.40 $104 $104 ($128)
                                                              7-Apr NO PLAY $0.00 ($128)
                                                              8-Apr CWS A ML -165 1.65 6 to 0 WIN $26 x 8 $85.80 $52 $52 ($76)
                                                              8-Apr HOU A ML -151 1.51 6 to 2 WIN $78.52 $52 $52 ($24)
                                                              8-Apr MIN A RL 102 1.02 10 to 2 WIN $53.04 $52 $52 $28
                                                              8-Apr NYM A ML -182 1.82 3 to 2 WIN $94.64 $52 $52 $80 line clear peak profit
                                                              9-Apr CLE A ML -184 1.84 4 to 1 WIN $10 X 6 $36.80 $20 $20 $100
                                                              9-Apr LAD A RL -142 1.42 1 to 0 LOSS $28.40 $20 ($28.40) $71
                                                              9-Apr SF A ML -155 1.55 3 to 1 WIN $31.00 $20 $20 $91 peak profit
                                                              10-Apr LAD B RL -161 1.61 9 to 5 WIN $10 x 2 $32.20 $20 $20 $111 peak profit
                                                              11-Apr NO PLAY $0.00 $111
                                                              12-Apr HOU A RL -111 1.11 2 to 6 LOSS $10 x 6 $22.20 $20 ($22.20) $89
                                                              12-Apr STL A ML -147 1.47 2 to 5 LOSS $29.40 $20 ($29.40) $60
                                                              12-Apr TB A RL 102 1.02 1 to 0 LOSS $20.40 $20 ($20.40) $39
                                                              13-Apr LAD A RL -140 1.4 7 to 0 WIN $15 x 9 $42.00 $30 $30 $69
                                                              13-Apr NYM A ML -150 1.5 4 to 0 WIN $45.00 $30 $30 $99
                                                              13-Apr HOU B ML -185 1.85 2 to 8 LOSS $55.50 $30 ($55.50) $44
                                                              13-Apr TB B ML -169 1.69 3 to 8 LOSS $50.70 $30 ($50.70) ($7)
                                                              14-Apr HOU C RL -115 1.15 4 to 6 LOSS $26 x 7 $59.80 $52 ($59.80) ($67)
                                                              14-Apr TB C ML -187 1.87 1 to 5 LOSS $97.24 $52 ($97.24) ($164)
                                                              15-Apr OAK A ML -163 1.63 8 to 4 WIN $38 x 9 $123.88 $76 $76 ($88)
                                                              15-Apr WAS A ML -170 1.7 6 to 11 LOSS $129.20 $76 ($129.20) ($217)
                                                              16-Apr NYY A ML -150 1.5 2 to 8 LOSS $49 x 8 $147.00 $98 ($147) ($364)
                                                              16-Apr WAS B ML -187 1.87 1 to 0 WIN $183.26 $98 $98.00 ($266)
                                                              17-Apr NYY B ML -109 1.09 3 to 6 LOSS $63 x 7 $137.34 $126 ($137.34) ($404)
                                                              18-Apr NYY C RL -112 1.12 2 to 4 LOSS $72 x 8 $161.28 $144 ($161.28) ($565)
                                                              19-Apr LAA A RL -106 1.06 4 to 6 LOSS $82 x 9 $173.84 $164 ($173.84) ($739)
                                                              19-Apr SD A ML -157 1.57 1 to 3 LOSS $257.48 $164 ($257.48) ($996)
                                                              20-Apr LAA B ML -181 1.81 6 to 2 WIN $106 x 11 $383.72 $212 $212 ($784)
                                                              20-Apr SD B ML -115 1.15 0 to 6 LOSS $243.80 $212 ($243.80) ($1,028)
                                                              21-Apr SD C RL 111 1.11 2 to 4 LOSS $120 x 10 $266.40 $240 ($266.40) ($1,294)
                                                              22-Apr BOS A ML -165 1.65 3 to 7 LOSS $133 x 11 $438.90 $266 ($438.90) ($1,733)
                                                              22-Apr LAD A ML -175 1.75 2 to 3 LOSS $465.50 $266 ($465.50) ($2,199)
                                                              22-Apr SF A ML -148 1.48 3 to 0 WIN $393.68 $266 $266 ($1,933)
                                                              23-Apr ATL A ML -160 1.6 5 to 4 WIN $131 x 16 $419.20 $262 $262 ($1,671)
                                                              23-Apr CHC A ML -145 1.45 15 to 2 WIN $379.90 $262 $262 ($1,409)
                                                              23-Apr CWS A ML -145 1.45 9 to 7 WIN $379.90 $262 $262 ($1,147)
                                                              23-Apr MIN A ML -153 1.53 2 to 0 WIN $400.86 $262 $262 ($885)
                                                              23-Apr NYM A RL -124 1.24 6 to 0 WIN $324.88 $262 $262 ($623)
                                                              23-Apr TB A ML -148 1.48 3 to 5 LOSS $387.76 $262 ($387.76) ($1,011)
                                                              23-Apr BOS B ML -138 1.38 6 to 5 WIN $361.56 $262 $262 ($749)
                                                              23-Apr LAD B ML -142 1.42 1 to 6 LOSS $372.04 $262 ($372.04) ($1,121)
                                                              24-Apr TB B ML -136 1.36 5 to 3 WIN $214 x 6 $568.48 $418 $418 ($703)
                                                              24-Apr LAD C ML -142 1.42 5 to 4 WIN $593.56 $418 $418 ($285)
                                                              25-Apr NO PLAY $0.00 ($285)
                                                              26-Apr ATL A RL 112 1.12 8 to 7 LOSS $43 x 10 $96.32 $86 ($96.32) ($381)
                                                              26-Apr HOU A ML -171 1.71 5 to 2 WIN $147.06 $86 $86 ($295)
                                                              26-Apr LAD A ML -185 1.85 3 to 5 LOSS $159.10 $86 ($159.10) ($454)
                                                              26-Apr MIL A ML -168 1.68 0 to 8 LOSS $144.48 $86 ($144.48) ($599)
                                                              26-Apr SF A ML -169 1.69 12 to 0 WIN $145.34 $86 $86 ($513)
                                                              27-Apr CWS A RL -117 1.17 2 to 5 LOSS $73 x 9 $170.82 $146 ($170.82) ($683)
                                                              27-Apr ATL B ML -160 1.6 5 to 0 WIN $233.60 $146 $146 ($537)
                                                              27-Apr LAD B RL -113 1.13 5 to 6 LOSS $164.98 $146 ($164.98) ($702)
                                                              27-Apr MIL B ML -145 1.45 5 to 4 WIN $211.70 $146 $146 ($556)
                                                              28-Apr CWS B RL -101 1.01 postpone $100 x 7 $0.00 ($556)
                                                              28-Apr LAD C RL 106 1.06 8 to 0 WIN $212.00 $200 $200 ($356)
                                                              Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 04-28-21, 08:12 PM.
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                                                              • J.M. Disciple
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                                                                • 11-16-10
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                                                                #101
                                                                @grecycle99 as you can see from my above post single line is no bueno! You guys are only down -13.59 units with your method where I would be down -17.8 units. However that includes a 10 unit win on LAD today if I was playing my strategy, so would be down technically double your loss.

                                                                Sorry to keep bothering you, but if you look at the labby for April 23th shows 131 x 16. It ends up making around $800 on the day, but the labby line still increases for April 24th despite going 6-2 for the day. How would you manage this? Because I cross off 12 #s and add two #s so on the 24th line is $214 x 6 based on the money left on the line. This is the part of the labby where any system I tested always seemed to fail with single line labby because of increases like this after making a solid run. I would think labby would decrease in the wager size or at the very least stay the same.

                                                                Lastly, how are you guys only down $456 / 22.82 units? If my math is correct I count $1,015 on the three lines or 50.75 units? I count 32#s over the 3 lines ($32 x 32) So if you get 16 wins you'll be up roughly 30 units for the regular + filtered. Not sure how you end up with so many extra units on your line compared to your peak profit. For example if your peak profit this season was 5 units, I would think if you are down 22 units, there would not be more than (22 + 5 + 1) or 28 units on your line. Seems super inflated now that I add it all up.
                                                                Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 04-28-21, 08:30 PM.
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                                                                • grecycle99
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-18-09
                                                                  • 3612

                                                                  #102
                                                                  UPDATED for 04/29/2021

                                                                  System(s) record Chase :

                                                                  Regular system: 28-5; Profit: 13.59 units
                                                                  Filtered System: 6-3; Profit: 9.23 units
                                                                  5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

                                                                  Total (3 systems) : 35-11; Profit: 79.03 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                                                                  Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                                                  Game 1 (A) win = 18-15; 5-4; 1-3
                                                                  Game 2 (B) win = 9-6; 1-3; 0-3
                                                                  Game 3 (C) win = 1-5; 0-3

                                                                  Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                                                  (A) 35.66
                                                                  -
                                                                  35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66
                                                                  (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                                                                  (C) 27.14-
                                                                  27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14

                                                                  REGULAR FOR 04/29/2021

                                                                  (A) Arizona -146 to win to win 3.57U (watch the line in case it gets under 145)
                                                                  (B) Chicago White Sox RL 113 to win 3.36U

                                                                  Filtered

                                                                  No Play

                                                                  5/2

                                                                  No Play
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                                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                                    • 5125

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Hi Grecycle99,

                                                                    I tested a one strike labby and will post spread sheet below for games up to the present date.
                                                                    Biggest bet $167 (8.35u) with risk of $237 (11.85u).
                                                                    Peak profit $122 (6.1u)
                                                                    Current down $76 (3.8u)

                                                                    The strategy is to start with 1 unit per game but cap your line at 6#s. Cross one or add one, but if your line reaches 6#s just average out the loss over those 6#s. Really easy method and appears to be way less risk than current labby strategy. Given how bad this season has gone, I would consider this method a win! Only down 3.8 units and have 13.5 units on the line.

                                                                    DATE TEAM ABC RL / ML ODDS odds SCORE WIN / LOSS RISK TO WIN PROFIT TOTAL
                                                                    1-Apr CHC A RL 106 1.06 3 to 5 LOSS $20 - $20 - $20 - $20 $20.00 $21 ($20) ($20)
                                                                    1-Apr KC A ML -149 1.49 14 to 10 WIN $29.80 $20 $20 $0
                                                                    1-Apr NYY A ML -172 1.72 2 to 3 LOSS $34.40 $20 ($34.40) ($34)
                                                                    1-Apr SD A RL -117 1.17 8 to 7 LOSS $23.40 $20 ($23.40) ($58)
                                                                    2-Apr BOS A ML -174 1.74 0 to 3 LOSS $23 - $23 - $23 - $23 - $23 - $23 $40.02 $23 ($40.02) ($98)
                                                                    2-Apr SD B RL -106 1.06 4 to 2 WIN $24.38 $23 $23 ($75)
                                                                    3-Apr BOS B ML -167 1.67 2 to 4 LOSS $26 - $26 - $26 - $26 - $26 - $26 $43.42 $26 ($43.42) ($118)
                                                                    3-Apr CHC B ML -165 1.65 5 to 1 WIN $42.90 $26 $26 ($92)
                                                                    3-Apr NYY B ML -161 1.61 1 to 3 LOSS $41.86 $26 ($41.86) ($134)
                                                                    4-Apr BOS C ML -163 1.63 3 to 11 LOSS $36 - $36 - $36 - $36 - $36 - $36 $58.68 $36 ($58.68) ($193)
                                                                    5-Apr CIN A ML -147 1.47 5 to 3 WIN $46 - $46 - $46 - $46 -$46 - $46 $67.62 $46 $46 ($147)
                                                                    5-Apr SD A ML -149 1.49 2 to 3 LOSS $68.54 $46 ($68.54) ($215)
                                                                    5-Apr NYY A RL -112 1.12 7 to 0 WIN $51.52 $46 $46 ($169)
                                                                    6-Apr SD B ML -185 1.85 3 to 1 WIN $51 - $51 - $51 - $51 - $51 $94.35 $51 $51 ($118)
                                                                    7-Apr NO PLAY $0.00 ($118)
                                                                    8-Apr CWS A ML -165 1.65 6 to 0 WIN $51 - $51 - $51 - $51 $84.15 $51 $51 ($67)
                                                                    8-Apr HOU A ML -151 1.51 6 to 2 WIN $77.01 $51 $51 ($16)
                                                                    8-Apr MIN A RL 102 1.02 10 to 2 WIN $52.02 $51 $51 $35
                                                                    8-Apr NYM A ML -182 1.82 3 to 2 WIN $92.82 $51 $51 $86
                                                                    9-Apr CLE A ML -184 1.84 4 to 1 WIN $20 - $20 - $20 $36.80 $20 $20 $106
                                                                    9-Apr LAD A RL -142 1.42 1 to 0 LOSS $28.40 $20 ($28.40) $77
                                                                    9-Apr SF A ML -155 1.55 3 to 1 WIN $31.00 $20 $20 $97
                                                                    10-Apr LAD B RL -161 1.61 9 to 5 WIN $25 - $25 $40.25 $25 $25 $122
                                                                    11-Apr NO PLAY $0.00 $122
                                                                    12-Apr HOU A RL -111 1.11 2 to 6 LOSS $22 - $22 - $22 $24.42 $22 ($24.42) $98
                                                                    12-Apr STL A ML -147 1.47 2 to 5 LOSS $32.34 $22 ($32.34) $66
                                                                    12-Apr TB A RL 102 1.02 1 to 0 LOSS $22.44 $22 ($22.44) $43
                                                                    13-Apr LAD A RL -140 1.4 7 to 0 WIN $24 - $24 - $24 - $24 - $24 - $24 $33.60 $24 $24 $67
                                                                    13-Apr NYM A ML -150 1.5 4 to 0 WIN $36.00 $24 $24 $91
                                                                    13-Apr HOU B ML -185 1.85 2 to 8 LOSS $44.40 $24 ($44.40) $47
                                                                    13-Apr TB B ML -169 1.69 3 to 8 LOSS $40.56 $24 ($40.56) $6
                                                                    14-Apr HOU C RL -115 1.15 4 to 6 LOSS $30 - $30 - $30 - $30 - $30 - $30 $34.50 $30 ($34.50) ($28)
                                                                    14-Apr TB C ML -187 1.87 1 to 5 LOSS $56.10 $30 ($56.10) ($84)
                                                                    15-Apr OAK A ML -163 1.63 8 to 4 WIN $45 - $45 - $45 - $45 - $45 - $45 $73.35 $45 $45 ($39)
                                                                    15-Apr WAS A ML -170 1.7 6 to 11 LOSS $76.50 $45 ($76.50) ($116)
                                                                    16-Apr NYY A ML -150 1.5 2 to 8 LOSS $50 -$50 -$50 -$50 -$50 -$50 $75.00 $50 ($75) ($191)
                                                                    16-Apr WAS B ML -187 1.87 1 to 0 WIN $93.50 $50 $50.00 ($141)
                                                                    17-Apr NYY B ML -109 1.09 3 to 6 LOSS $54 - $54 -$54 - $54 -$54 - $54 $58.86 $54 ($58.86) ($200)
                                                                    18-Apr NYY C RL -112 1.12 2 to 4 LOSS $64 - $64 -$64 - $64 -$64 - $64 $71.68 $64 ($71.68) ($272)
                                                                    19-Apr LAA A RL -106 1.06 4 to 6 LOSS $76 - $76 - $76 - $76 - $76 - $76 $80.56 $76 ($80.56) ($352)
                                                                    19-Apr SD A ML -157 1.57 1 to 3 LOSS $119.32 $76 ($119.32) ($471)
                                                                    20-Apr LAA B ML -181 1.81 6 to 2 WIN $109 - $109 - $109 - $109 - $109 - $109 $197.29 $109 $109 ($362)
                                                                    20-Apr SD B ML -115 1.15 0 to 6 LOSS $125.35 $109 ($125.35) ($488)
                                                                    21-Apr SD C RL 111 1.11 2 to 4 LOSS $112 - $112 - $112 - $112 - $112 - $112 $100.90 $112 ($100.90) ($589)
                                                                    22-Apr BOS A ML -165 1.65 3 to 7 LOSS $129 - $129 -$129 - $129 -$129 - $129 $212.85 $129 ($212.85) ($802)
                                                                    22-Apr LAD A ML -175 1.75 2 to 3 LOSS $225.75 $129 ($225.75) ($1,027)
                                                                    22-Apr SF A ML -148 1.48 3 to 0 WIN $190.92 $129 $129 ($898)
                                                                    23-Apr ATL A ML -160 1.6 5 to 4 WIN $136 - $136 - $136 - $136 - $136 - $136 - $136 - $136 $217.60 $136 $136 ($762)
                                                                    23-Apr CHC A ML -145 1.45 15 to 2 WIN $197.20 $136 $136 ($626)
                                                                    23-Apr CWS A ML -145 1.45 9 to 7 WIN $197.20 $136 $136 ($490)
                                                                    23-Apr MIN A ML -153 1.53 2 to 0 WIN $208.08 $136 $136 ($354)
                                                                    23-Apr NYM A RL -124 1.24 6 to 0 WIN $168.64 $136 $136 ($218)
                                                                    23-Apr TB A ML -148 1.48 3 to 5 LOSS $201.28 $136 ($201.28) ($420)
                                                                    23-Apr BOS B ML -138 1.38 6 to 5 WIN $187.68 $136 $136 ($284)
                                                                    23-Apr LAD B ML -142 1.42 1 to 6 LOSS $193.12 $136 ($193.12) ($477)
                                                                    24-Apr TB B ML -136 1.36 5 to 3 WIN $167 - $167 - $167 - $167 $227.12 $167 $167 ($310)
                                                                    24-Apr LAD C ML -142 1.42 5 to 4 WIN $237.14 $167 $167 ($143)
                                                                    25-Apr NO PLAY $0.00 ($143)
                                                                    26-Apr ATL A RL 112 1.12 8 to 7 LOSS $67 - $67 - $67 - $67 - $67 $75.04 $67 ($75.04) ($218)
                                                                    26-Apr HOU A ML -171 1.71 5 to 2 WIN $114.57 $67 $67 ($151)
                                                                    26-Apr LAD A ML -185 1.85 3 to 5 LOSS $123.95 $67 ($123.95) ($275)
                                                                    26-Apr MIL A ML -168 1.68 0 to 8 LOSS $112.56 $67 ($112.56) ($387)
                                                                    26-Apr SF A ML -169 1.69 12 to 0 WIN $113.23 $67 $67 ($320)
                                                                    27-Apr CWS A RL -117 1.17 2 to 5 LOSS $86 - $86 - $86 - $86 - $86 - $86 $100.62 $86 ($100.62) ($421)
                                                                    27-Apr ATL B ML -160 1.6 5 to 0 WIN $137.60 $86 $86 ($335)
                                                                    27-Apr LAD B RL -113 1.13 5 to 6 LOSS $97.18 $86 ($97.18) ($432)
                                                                    27-Apr MIL B ML -145 1.45 5 to 4 WIN $124.70 $86 $86 ($346)
                                                                    28-Apr CWS B RL -101 1.01 postpone $90 - $90 - $90 - $90 - $90 - $90 $0.00 ($346)
                                                                    28-Apr LAD C RL 106 1.06 8 to 0 WIN $84.90 $90 $90 ($256)
                                                                    29-Apr ARZ A ML -146 1.46 5 TO 3 WIN $90 - $90 - $90 - $90 - $90 $131.40 $90 $90 ($166)
                                                                    29-Apr CWS B RL 113 1.13 11 TO 0 WIN $79.65 $90 $90 ($76)
                                                                    $90 - $90 - $90
                                                                    Comment
                                                                    • grecycle99
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-18-09
                                                                      • 3612

                                                                      #104
                                                                      UPDATED for 04/30/2021

                                                                      System(s) record Chase :

                                                                      Regular system: 34-5; Profit: 14.75 units
                                                                      Filtered System: 7-3; Profit: 6.98 units
                                                                      5/2 chase: 1-3; profit: 56.21 units

                                                                      Total (3 systems) : 42-11; Profit: 77.94 unit (Series chase lost : REGULAR Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, Tampa Bay -6.73U, NY Yankees -8.19U, San Diego -13.82U, FILTERED Boston -5.04U, Houston -5.81U, NY Yankees -8.19U, 5/2 Boston -25.22U, Houston -22.21U, NY Yankees -18.04U)

                                                                      Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)

                                                                      Game 1 (A) win = 20-19; 6-4; 1-3
                                                                      Game 2 (B) win = 12-7; 1-3; 0-3
                                                                      Game 3 (C) win = 2-5; 0-3

                                                                      Labby Line (20$ = 1unit)

                                                                      (A) 35.66
                                                                      -35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66-35.66
                                                                      (B) 33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54-33.54
                                                                      (C) 27.14-
                                                                      27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14-27.14

                                                                      REGULAR FOR 04/30/2021

                                                                      (A) NY Yankees RL -161 to win 3.57U
                                                                      (A) San Diego -189 to win 3.57U

                                                                      Filtered

                                                                      No Play

                                                                      5/2

                                                                      No Play
                                                                      Comment
                                                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 11-16-10
                                                                        • 5125

                                                                        #105
                                                                        I thought my post would get a response. The bet sizes seem very reasonable with busting bankroll, but the biggest swing is still going to be 50 units due to the bad stretch the system had. I think on average the bet size is smaller. Would just run one line for regular system and one line for filtered system. Let me know if you have any questions of how I managed it.
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