Bitcoin Price Tracking & Discussion -- 2025

[homie1975]

the artificial rip is getting sold.

i am still HODL on bittie but these little platitude plays by 47 are not going to fool the sophisticated investor eye (not me but the institutions)

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the artificial rip is getting sold.

i am still HODL on bittie but these little platitude plays by 47 are not going to fool the sophisticated investor eye (not me but the institutions)

As long as his hype keeps driving it forward over the next 4 years, at least we can have one thing to be happy about from him. ;-)

Might even make more on crypto than you are going to lose through domestic economy pain over that time.

[homie1975]

so why not short?

BITI a nice little ETF to short Bitcoin, for those who are inclined ;-)

[homie1975]

As long as his hype keeps driving it forward over the next 4 years, at least we can have one thing to be happy about from him. ;-)

Might even make more on crypto than you are going to lose through domestic economy pain over that time.

hope so.

it is going to take more than strategically timed announcements about "what is coming in the future" to sustain the reversals.

we need real action to help find the strong support points.

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hope so.

it is going to take more than strategically timed announcements about "what is coming in future" to sustain the reversals.

we need real action to help find the strong support points.

They won't have to do a lot more than actually start buying to pretty much control the price for a while I think.

Imagine the millions anyone on the inside who knows the timing and size of planned transactions will make over this period.

[trytrytry]

sorry gents but today's crypto rip was clear manipulation and will not hold.


he thinks people are stupid. we are not.


It was a transparent move and right out of the playbook.


it will fizzle out in the short term. watch.

this guy gets it

[Arky]

Anyone heard the rumors of the IRS being cancelled?

Or the $5K rebate on taxes?

Ooof, I'll believe those when I see it.

Trump's done some good things but it's troublesome how so many - and Trump is one - who have allegiance to a small Middle East country that seems to have their finger in everyone's pie...

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Anyone heard the rumors of the IRS being cancelled?

Or the $5K rebate on taxes?

Ooof, I'll believe those when I see it.

Trump's done some good things but it's troublesome how so many - and Trump is one - who have allegiance to a small Middle East country that seems to have their finger in everyone's pie...

Hi, Arky. I don't stick my nose much into politics.

But I do believe that Trump is serious about the DOGE agency and thinking about ways to operate more efficiently. I heard that an IRS agent is supposed to operate to produce $500 revenue per hour.

I'm not anticipating quick sweeping changes. Never seems to happen in politics. But I do think he's trying to clear out some of the graft.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Will make one more comment. Trump has a background as a businessman. Not as a politician.

You have to operate on a balanced budget sooner than later. Otherwise it's a house of cards. And it will fall at some point.

[Arky]

Will make one more comment. Trump has a background as a businessman. Not as a politician.

You have to operate on a balanced budget sooner than later. Otherwise it's a house of cards. And it will fall at some point.

Yes, I didn't mean to get all political there but some should be made aware of the, uh, conflicts(?).

There are rumors of a monetary reset perhaps taking place during this administration which will be a scary time to have a bunch of cash in the bank. Crypto, metals and property are about the only options to protect your wealth - outside the system. As mentioned above, it's totally corrupt system we have now and a reset will have to be done at some point to straighten it all out. This will be a good day. However, it should not be replaced by something worse that takes away individual liberty, privacy and brings in a system of surveillance.....

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Yes, I didn't mean to get all political there but some should be made aware of the, uh, conflicts(?).

There are rumors of a monetary reset perhaps taking place during this administration which will be a scary time to have a bunch of cash in the bank. Crypto, metals and property are about the only options to protect your wealth - outside the system. As mentioned above, it's totally corrupt system we have now and a reset will have to be done at some point to straighten it all out. This will be a good day. However, it should not be replaced by something worse that takes away individual liberty, privacy and brings in a system of surveillance.....

For sure. I'm also seeing the Auctions for Gold/Silver rising. Might be fair to say that Au and Ag even rise at a (seemingly) less volatile rate.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

This IMF deal w/ El Salv is a head-scratcher. The terms sound very similar to what the USA did w/ the Petro-dollar in 1973. Reduce the emphasis on BTC and keep pushing the USD use-case.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

This IMF deal w/ El Salv is a head-scratcher. The terms sound very similar to what the USA did w/ the Petro-dollar in 1973. Reduce the emphasis on BTC and keep pushing the USD use-case.

https://www.ccn.com/news/crypto/imf-deal-el-salvador-liquidate-bitcoin-trust-chivo-stricter-transparency/

Give me a break. Translation: IMF is fearful of losing control.

[homie1975]

down we go

[homie1975]

Will make one more comment. Trump has a background as a businessman. Not as a politician.

You have to operate on a balanced budget sooner than later. Otherwise it's a house of cards. And it will fall at some point.

i hear you CHUCKer but look what happened under Ronald Reagan who i think most of us can agree was one of the best presidents in the last half century going back to JFK

The federal deficit as percentage of GDP rose from 2.5% of GDP in fiscal year 1981 to a peak of 5.7% of GDP in 1983, then fell to 2.7% GDP in 1989. Total federal outlays averaged of 21.8% of GDP from 1981–88, versus the 1974–1980 average of 20.1% of GDP. This was the highest of any President from Carter through Obama.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

i hear you CHUCKer but look what happened under Ronald Reagan who i think most of us can agree was one of the best presidents in the last half century going back to JFK

The federal deficit as percentage of GDP rose from 2.5% of GDP in fiscal year 1981 to a peak of 5.7% of GDP in 1983, then fell to 2.7% GDP in 1989. Total federal outlays averaged of 21.8% of GDP from 1981–88, versus the 1974–1980 average of 20.1% of GDP. This was the highest of any President from Carter through Obama.

Historical view of Presidents can be very interesting. You're right, Reagan is normally viewed as the LAST great president. I really think some it was that he was well-spoken and earned respect.

As for his policies, you bring up a great point. Did Ronnie's spending create problems? Debt is something that magnifies over time, b/c the interest is always running.

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i hear you CHUCKer but look what happened under Ronald Reagan who i think most of us can agree was one of the best presidents in the last half century going back to JFK

The federal deficit as percentage of GDP rose from 2.5% of GDP in fiscal year 1981 to a peak of 5.7% of GDP in 1983, then fell to 2.7% GDP in 1989. Total federal outlays averaged of 21.8% of GDP from 1981–88, versus the 1974–1980 average of 20.1% of GDP. This was the highest of any President from Carter through Obama.

Example of how you need to spend money to make money sometimes.

And keeping a balanced budget is a simplistic talking point politicians like to rally people behind, because it feels like unarguable position. Very much along the lines of, we must have less govt workers and govt spending. Of course it sounds correct if you dont want to take into account how it affects the services the taxes go to pay for.

Anyway, govt should go into debt if needed to smooth out our financial pain in the hard times, and grab the opportunity to reduce that debt during good times. There is no right or wrong blanket call on it.

[k13]

Will make one more comment. Trump has a background as a businessman. Not as a politician.

You have to operate on a balanced budget sooner than later. Otherwise it's a house of cards. And it will fall at some point.

Actually it won't, the deficit will never go away and nothing will happen.

[homie1975]

Actually it won't, the deficit will never go away and nothing will happen.

i agree.

[Madison]

i hear you CHUCKer but look what happened under Ronald Reagan who i think most of us can agree was one of the best presidents in the last half century going back to JFK

The federal deficit as percentage of GDP rose from 2.5% of GDP in fiscal year 1981 to a peak of 5.7% of GDP in 1983, then fell to 2.7% GDP in 1989. Total federal outlays averaged of 21.8% of GDP from 1981–88, versus the 1974–1980 average of 20.1% of GDP. This was the highest of any President from Carter through Obama.

Careful buddy you're sounding like the lone REP left in CALI. LOL

[Madison]

Historical view of Presidents can be very interesting. You're right, Reagan is normally viewed as the LAST great president. I really think some it was that he was well-spoken and earned respect.

As for his policies, you bring up a great point. Did Ronnie's spending create problems? Debt is something that magnifies over time, b/c the interest is always running.

I'm no policy expert by far, but to my memory wasn't he the last to put gov agencies (air traffic) to actually be accountable for their productivity??

[homie1975]

Careful buddy you're sounding like the lone REP left in CALI. LOL

Trump got nearly 40% votes in CA

tide is turning Red here, Bud

[Madison]

Trump got nearly 40% votes in CA

tide is turning Red here, Bud

I'm neither Red or Blue but do lean to the right. I live in MA where you are afraid to speak anything righty or you could be hung like the witches. LOL

[homie1975]

I'm neither Red or Blue but do lean to the right. I live in MA where you are afraid to speak anything righty or you could be hung like the witches. LOL

you are in the land of Salem, MA where we had the witch trials circa 1700 AD or so

[biggie12]

BITI a nice little ETF to short Bitcoin, for those who are inclined ;-)

Sure if you wanna be taxed.

Defi is where you should be shorting

[homie1975]

pure manipulation on stocks and crypto


PoliticsTrump could scale back Canada, Mexico tariffs Wednesday, Lutnick says

Published Tue, Mar 4 20255:18 PM ESTUpdated An Hour Ago

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• President Donald Trump will “probably” announce a compromise with Canada and Mexico as early as Wednesday, which could scale back his new 25% tariffs on top U.S trading partners, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said.
• The comments came after the U.S. stock market limped to a close for a second day of sharp declines.
• The Trump administration enacted sweeping tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports after putting them on pause for a month.

[biggie12]

This next run up on crypto is going to be wild. Don't get scared off

[Madison]

you are in the land of Salem, MA where we had the witch trials circa 1700 AD or so

My many times great grandfather, Roger Conant, was a founder of Naumkeag (Now Salem) and was about in the midst of the trials.

[Madison]

pure manipulation on stocks and crypto


PoliticsTrump could scale back Canada, Mexico tariffs Wednesday, Lutnick says


Published Tue, Mar 4 20255:18 PM ESTUpdated An Hour Ago

Kevin Breuninger@KevinWilliamB




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Key Points

• President Donald Trump will “probably” announce a compromise with Canada and Mexico as early as Wednesday, which could scale back his new 25% tariffs on top U.S trading partners, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said.
• The comments came after the U.S. stock market limped to a close for a second day of sharp declines.
• The Trump administration enacted sweeping tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports after putting them on pause for a month.

The word reciprocal keeps getting tossed about. Where can one get a list of ACTUAL current tariffs. So many times the talking heads throw out all kinds of schlop but never ever give us the actual facts.

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^^^ please try not to turn this thread into deep political back and forth discussion. Take it to the Saloon if needed to go in depth.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

^^^ please try not to turn this thread into deep political back and forth discussion. Take it to the Saloon if needed to go in depth.

89,600. Satoshis > Dead Presidents?

[raiders72001]

I got buried with APE because of the SEC but the good news is that the SEC recently dropped the case against Yuga Labs.

[raiders72001]

This next run up on crypto is going to be wild. Don't get scared off

agree. I'm still holding with my prediction of $250k.

[homie1975]

^^^ please try not to turn this thread into deep political back and forth discussion. Take it to the Saloon if needed to go in depth.

my post was about manipulation of markets which is germane to the convo about riskier asset classes like crypto

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wasn't complaining about your post, or anyones. Just saying don't let it go on and on in this thread. But if you want to go back and forth and pick apart policy in depth, you can take it to a Saloon thread no problem.