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#143garbrandt +100 tko/ko prop droppedComment -
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#145What do people think about Poirier/Johnson and Hall/Brunson?Comment -
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#1482 extremely hard fights to cap imo
porier/johnson could be FOY potential , id lean porier but man thats a super tough fight to call both are super tough top 10 talents , porier has the momentum with johnson coming off those 2 losses even though i think he beat dariush ...
brunson/hall another super tough fight to call id lean brunson hoping hed be at + money since hall has the big name and has had problems with strong wrestlers before who grind in his face for 15, brunson can most definitely do this , but hall is dangerous and can ko anybody in the world so its tough betting against somebody so explosive, the + odds would have to be juicy enough for brunsonComment -
#1492 extremely hard fights to cap imo
porier/johnson could be FOY potential , id lean porier but man thats a super tough fight to call both are super tough top 10 talents , porier has the momentum with johnson coming off those 2 losses even though i think he beat dariush ...
brunson/hall another super tough fight to call id lean brunson hoping hed be at + money since hall has the big name and has had problems with strong wrestlers before who grind in his face for 15, brunson can most definitely do this , but hall is dangerous and can ko anybody in the world so its tough betting against somebody so explosive, the + odds would have to be juicy enough for brunsonComment -
#150Tossing a unit on Mizugaki at (+400). I think this line will come back down by fight time and Mizugaki definitely wins at least 20% of the time.Comment -
#151Wow, those were set WAY OFF. I guess the line corrected itself. I would have taken Larkin at that price too. Anyone get in quickly enough at those odds?Comment -
#152I would lean Porier and Brunson. I think Porier will be the favorite though, with Johnson coming off the two losses. I think it's a fairly close fight, so i might just take dog money in that one.
I think Brunson will open as the dog, and I'd throw a few units down on that all day.Comment -
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#154ill have to check em out, id rather get the extra 20 with the tko/ko prop with no love i dont see him getting a sub, mizugaki has been caught before and cody has some great power/hands its basically go ko/tko +100 or maybe if you have hope in mizugaki take him straight up e definitely has a small chance hes a vet and has fought some tough competitionComment -
#155ill have to check em out, id rather get the extra 20 with the tko/ko prop with no love i dont see him getting a sub, mizugaki has been caught before and cody has some great power/hands its basically go ko/tko +100 or maybe if you have hope in mizugaki take him straight up e definitely has a small chance hes a vet and has fought some tough competitionComment -
#156I would lean Porier and Brunson. I think Porier will be the favorite though, with Johnson coming off the two losses. I think it's a fairly close fight, so i might just take dog money in that one.
I think Brunson will open as the dog, and I'd throw a few units down on that all day.Comment -
#157The UFC has signed top women's prospect Alexa Grasso and she will be making her debut on the Mexico City card against Heather Jo Clarke.Comment -
#158rothwell out .... werdum vs travis browne
no clue whyd they book this fight they just fought recently and werdum beat him 5 outta 5 rounds
prob be a no play since werdum will be the huge favourite maybe if brownes like +250 or more take a small stab since its heavyweights and anything can happenComment -
#159rothwell out .... werdum vs travis browne
no clue whyd they book this fight they just fought recently and werdum beat him 5 outta 5 rounds
prob be a no play since werdum will be the huge favourite maybe if brownes like +250 or more take a small stab since its heavyweights and anything can happen
Werdum -3.5
Werdum Decision
Browne KO/TKOComment -
#160I agree with your picks. Both Poirier and Brunson have been tearing through everyone. I'm sure they'll both be favorites.
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#162I think porier will be around -140/-150 range and Brunson will be a dog around +125
also new line just dropped and I'm looking for a big play on it , Michael bisping -190 over hendo.. I think bisping is going to starch him here. Hendos movement is absolutely horrendous these days and his chin is shot all he has is that hbomb and I doubt bisping is stupid enough to get caught by it again , I'm guessing he batters him for 2-3 rounds then finishes him lateComment -
#163Condit vs Maia
Thoughts on the Condit/Maia fight at the end of August? Two very good fighters with contrasting styles. Fight has opened up as basically a pick em'. Any consensus in the forum?Comment -
#164I did a write-up on the fight on the first page of this thread. It seems like Maia early sub or Condit late KO/TKO if there's a finish. Draw and split decision bets for each fighter are also worth looking at. Also, some have suggested betting on Maia pre-fight and live-hedging Condit after Round 2.Comment -
#165I think porier will be around -140/-150 range and Brunson will be a dog around +125
also new line just dropped and I'm looking for a big play on it , Michael bisping -190 over hendo.. I think bisping is going to starch him here. Hendos movement is absolutely horrendous these days and his chin is shot all he has is that hbomb and I doubt bisping is stupid enough to get caught by it again , I'm guessing he batters him for 2-3 rounds then finishes him lateComment -
#166Garbrandt/Mizugaki reminds me a bit of Swanson/Kawajiri. The overwhelming favorite has an exciting style and should get the win but the odds seem fail to give any credit to the crafty Asian veteran.Comment -
#167I think it's different because Mizugaki is a standup fighter, plays into Garbrandt's strength. Whereas Kawajiri had more of a chance because he does takedowns and lay and pray.Comment -
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#169ill have to check em out, id rather get the extra 20 with the tko/ko prop with no love i dont see him getting a sub, mizugaki has been caught before and cody has some great power/hands its basically go ko/tko +100 or maybe if you have hope in mizugaki take him straight up e definitely has a small chance hes a vet and has fought some tough competitionComment -
#170I don't think garbrandt will go for the sub , he looks like he enjoys just landing hands even when the opponent gets dropped .. Alpha male definitely has the best guillotines in the game but 0 subs and mizugakis poor defense I think he'll get kod here.... If you want underdog value +725 mizugaki by decision
btw new fight announced and this one hurt my heart a bit..
ricardo lamas vs bj penn
cant believe they go from giving him bums like siver to a top 5 featherweight I love his determination and heart but this is just gonna be terrible , he's already shown he's past his prime and CANNOT hang with the top guys, I was all in on watching him fight some bums or legend fights to end off his career maybe a fight with gomi or stuff like this but fighting a beast like lamas is just a recipe for disaster unless he somehow found the fountain of youth or some Mexican supplements I don't see this comeback ending well for the legend bj pennComment -
#171I don't think garbrandt will go for the sub , he looks like he enjoys just landing hands even when the opponent gets dropped .. Alpha male definitely has the best guillotines in the game but 0 subs and mizugakis poor defense I think he'll get kod here.... If you want underdog value +725 mizugaki by decision
btw new fight announced and this one hurt my heart a bit..
ricardo lamas vs bj penn
cant believe they go from giving him bums like siver to a top 5 featherweight I love his determination and heart but this is just gonna be terrible , he's already shown he's past his prime and CANNOT hang with the top guys, I was all in on watching him fight some bums or legend fights to end off his career maybe a fight with gomi or stuff like this but fighting a beast like lamas is just a recipe for disaster unless he somehow found the fountain of youth or some Mexican supplements I don't see this comeback ending well for the legend bj penn
Lamas should starch BJ, whether he's motivated or not.Comment -
#172
regarding lamas vs penn I legitmately don't understand the matchmaking this guy gets, Rory macdonald, Nick Diaz, Frankie Edgar 3 losses in a row give the man a fckin tune up fight they had it exactly perfect with the Dennis siver matchup or even cole Miller , would've been perfect to gauge where bjs at then maybe give him a bigger fight, but throwing him right into the fire again I don't see this going well for him sucks that he's left home to train for the past year and going through all that IV bs to just come back and get absolutely starched and the fights all the way in Manila .... Trulely feel bad for bj here tough spot , hopefully he can complete the miracle but I highly highly doubt he gets the W here.. Hasn't won sine 2010 then he gets a top 5 FW smfh Shelby and joe silvaComment -
#173usually I stick with ITD as well since its mma and anything can happen, but with a fighter like garbrandt I think you should save the extra juice since he literally doesn't even attempt to go for subs or even to hit the ground at all, he's a lighter weight chuck Liddell in the sense he has good distance management and he has good wrestling that he uses mainly for defending shots and then landing big punches ... If the value was better I'd say go with ITD but Ko/tko is only +100 so gonna take that and run
regarding lamas vs penn I legitmately don't understand the matchmaking this guy gets, Rory macdonald, Nick Diaz, Frankie Edgar 3 losses in a row give the man a fckin tune up fight they had it exactly perfect with the Dennis siver matchup or even cole Miller , would've been perfect to gauge where bjs at then maybe give him a bigger fight, but throwing him right into the fire again I don't see this going well for him sucks that he's left home to train for the past year and going through all that IV bs to just come back and get absolutely starched and the fights all the way in Manila .... Trulely feel bad for bj here tough spot , hopefully he can complete the miracle but I highly highly doubt he gets the W here.. Hasn't won sine 2010 then he gets a top 5 FW smfh Shelby and joe silvaComment -
#174The curious matchmaking might be because BJ has a few fights left on a long and lucrative contract from his time at the top (not sure whether he does or not). Jake Ellenberger was in a similar situation where he got a big contract when he was a top contender and then when he started to lose Silva and Shelby continued to give him hard fights because his pay was still huge.
wonder what the odds will be at anyway im assuming lamas -200/-250 rangeComment -
#175i see what youre saying but bj penn is a big draw in a lot of markets and a HOF legend ... they could give him some average fighter like they first matched him up with ( cole miller, dennis siver ) makes absolutely 0 sense to give him a top 5 guy especially one whos super tough and well rounded as lamas , and a guy thats dangerous who doesnt really have the biggest name... bj literally has nothing to gain from this fight imo... ellenberger wasnt ever a huge draw so they probably didnt wanna pay 100k+ to a guy who doesnt really put any butts in the seats, apparently he was actually cut before the brown fight and he begged for one last shot and they gave him brown which 9/10 times is like sacrficing a goat to the gods but he somehow pulled it outta his ass and won lol, maybe bj can stop another sacrificing
wonder what the odds will be at anyway im assuming lamas -200/-250 range
I think Lamas opens as a bigger favorite somewhere in the region of (-350/400).Comment
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