UFC 206 - Anthony Pettis vs Max Holloway (December 10th, 2016)

[firekillex]

Pettis is going to sleep via submission and Choi wins via TKO.

holloway is going to be the first guy to ever sub pettis? highly doubt that , its either decision or tko for me leaning hard fought decision or a later tko from accumulation of strikes

[Hugo de Naranja]

holloway is going to be the first guy to ever sub pettis? highly doubt that , its either decision or tko for me leaning hard fought decision or a later tko from accumulation of strikes

I'm more inline with this.

[JIBBBY]

holloway is going to be the first guy to ever sub pettis? highly doubt that , its either decision or tko for me leaning hard fought decision or a later tko from accumulation of strikes

I'm more in line with this but leaning heavier with Pettis to finish.....

Pettis by sub after he rocks Holloway with a body kick to the liver or if Holloway tries to take him down with a double he'll sink a nasty choke.... Pettis is very underrated with his submission skills.. 3 of his last 6 fights in the UFC have ended with different submissions.. Most of his wins have come by submission.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Anthony-Pettis-26627

Pettis also went 5 rounds with RDA so it's not likely Hollaway can finish Pettis within 5 rounds either.. Pettis is coming off a solid win so you know his confidence isn't for shiit either right now..

I admit Holloway could win by decision maybe and that would maybe be a hedge for me if the odds weren't just +140 on that prop.. I'll pass on the hedge period with this fight...

[Hugo de Naranja]

I think Pettis' best chance to win this fight will be a sub from the bottom (Guillotine, Triangle etc.)

[JIBBBY]

Cub Swanson could win by decision or KO in my opinion...

The Korean Superboy could obviously win by KO and probably in the first round if he does but I doubt it.. 3 fights in the UFC and 3 first round KO's for this Asian dude so far but not against top ranked guys like Cub Swanson.. Still not a ton of MMA experience when facing top level competition yet in other words.. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Doo-Ho-Choi-56689

Swanson has won 2 fights in a row now, brings alot of experience and solid striking.. I'm not convinced he gets dropped.. I think he could fight cautious and win by decision or land a big punch.. His last 2 UFC fights have come by UN decision wins, and Cub is not afraid to fight Asian dudes either.. His last fight win was over an Asian dude .. http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cub-Swanson-11002

Cub Swanson hasn't been KO'd since 2009 and that was against Jose Aldo (wicked knee), he's fought heavy hitters as well since.... Jeremy Stevens, Ross Pearson, etc.. Beat them all. When Cub loses fights it's usually to strong wrestlers and not strong strikers...

Dennis Siver KO'd



Do Bronx KO'd




Ross Pearson

[Unwritten Law]

Past time for Cub or call it TBT, his killer days are almost certainly over. His last TKO win was over 3 years ago and his last fight against Kawajiri, not sure how he managed to win that but the judges fuxked that up. Lots of wear and tear on him. He's going against a lethal prospect full of confidence that will be undeceivably strong and fast. If Cub has any chance, he will take Superboy down but I'm not sure he can even keep him down. Those wild overhand punches will play right into KSB's counter which is his best striking technique and it's Nyquil time for the little Cub in the 1st.

Anybody else factors in Pettis' outside the ring issues? Say he could have pulled out of 206 multiple times, must have contemplated back and forth.

[JIBBBY]

Past time for Cub or call it TBT, his killer days are almost certainly over. His last TKO win was over 3 years ago and his last fight against Kawajiri, not sure how he managed to win that but the judges fuxked that up. Lots of wear and tear on him. He's going against a lethal prospect full of confidence that will be undeceivably strong and fast. If Cub has any chance, he will take Superboy down but I'm not sure he can even keep him down. Those wild overhand punches will play right into KSB's counter which is his best striking technique and it's Nyquil time for the little Cub in the 1st.

Anybody else factors in Pettis' outside the ring issues? Say he could have pulled out of 206 multiple times, must have contemplated back and forth.

Cub is just 33 years old and not over the hill just yet...It's not like he looked bad in his last 2 fight wins.. Yes he's fighting an explosive young prospect, but we've seen hyped prospects lose before..

The young Asian prospect hasn't really fought anyone special yet worth mentioning in the UFC.. If he beats Cub and knocks him out then I'm a believer... Big if... Cub is no push over..

Like I said Cub typically doesn't lose to strikers like he does to wrestlers and grapplers.. Cub struggled against Kawajuri because he is a grappling based fighter.. He will be game in this fight against the striker....

Asian fade in play here....

[Hugo de Naranja]

That's how I played it. Also value on Cub R3 imo

[UncleChael]

Let's just have Gastelum fight Tim Kennedy

I said this last month for the 205 card because I hated how Gastelum missed weight and I wanted him punished. Tim Kennedy will beat that boy like a drum on saturday boys. TIM KENNEDY -141 ML

[TPowell]

Wow, lot of love for Pettis here. He slowed down a lot after R1 of that Chucky Olives fight. He was on his way to losing a decision as well. Max Holloway will pressure him and it'll be business as usual IMO. Holloway knows that Pettis can't hurt him off his back foot so I imagine he'll be pushing forward the whole fight. Pettis' wrestling isn't much so I think Holloway can keep it standing.

[TPowell]

I'm going to do a bunch of 2 team round robin parlays with these 4 plays.

Holloway ML (-210)
Meek/Mein DOESN'T go to decision (-290)
Kennedy/Gastellum STARTS Round 3 (-247)
Dober/OAM STARTS Round 3 (-240)


Other plays more than likely

Khabilov by decision (+119)
Makovsky by decision (+125)
Cirkunov ML (-120)

[TPowell]

I think Khavilov and Makovsky top control their way to decision wins. Ortiz should struggle against an imposing style wrestler like Mak like usual. Khabilov SHOULD be able to get it done but not risking -money on this guy again. He's burned me too many times. Think Cirkunov can bully Krylov and drag him to deeper waters and drown him. An early takedown and top control probably zaps quite a bit of Krylov's power and then its 1 way traffic. I feel like this fight could last weird enough

[GoBlue77]

I said this last month for the 205 card because I hated how Gastelum missed weight and I wanted him punished. Tim Kennedy will beat that boy like a drum on saturday boys. TIM KENNEDY -141 ML

I have 2k on Gas. you're making a HUGE mistake with that bet.

[GoBlue77]

Gas and Holloway fellas. 2 winners.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Are you willing to put a house on it?

[UncleChael]

I have 2k on Gas. you're making a HUGE mistake with that bet.

I might not fuk with it then. Kennedy hangs around with the top Middleweights and wins. I'll watch more tape coach.
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[sweep]

pettis over 3lbs LMAO

[bjpenn85]

Gas and Holloway fellas. 2 winners.

Why bet against a such a good guy in Kennedy? Guy is really good, why bet AGAINST those skills. I cant understand that + betting heavy as well. Recipe for disaster. When that being said, difficult to know where kennedys heads are. Gastelym victory over hendricks these days, how much stock can you really put into that? I hope youre know what youre doing. Freakin magny out wrestled him...

Holloway, lets go! Im on him as well.

[Thor4140]

Wow, lot of love for Pettis here. He slowed down a lot after R1 of that Chucky Olives fight. He was on his way to losing a decision as well. Max Holloway will pressure him and it'll be business as usual IMO. Holloway knows that Pettis can't hurt him off his back foot so I imagine he'll be pushing forward the whole fight. Pettis' wrestling isn't much so I think Holloway can keep it standing.

To me this is a good one to sit out. Pettis looked awful in his first fight at 145 (body wise) and gassed. Who knows maybe this being his second shot at 145 it will be a little easier. Pettis seems to thrive when he doesn't have to be worried about being taken down every second of the fight which will be an advantage for him. Something to me is missing with Pettis standup. It is almost like he is standing to straight up. Hopefully someone worked on this with him. This is a typical no bet for me and just enjoy watching this fight. To many if's here.

[Thor4140]

pettis over 3lbs LMAO

Wow this is terrible for Pettis. Who knows where his mind is. 145 seems like a huge reach for him basing it on his last fight and body image.

[Play2Win808]

Pettis is Fustrated & Max is Ready to be a Champ Again(Amature) nothing is going to stop him hell be the next 145lb Champ easy. Down the road will meet conor at 155 for a Rematch.

[sweep]

UFC has to put this card on free tv now...what a disgrace

[Kermit]

So does Max get the interim title now by default?

[sweep]

So does Max get the interim title now by default?

he still has to win the fight, pettis cant win it regardless and losses 20% of his purse....worst card in ufc history

[JIBBBY]

I think Khavilov and Makovsky top control their way to decision wins. Ortiz should struggle against an imposing style wrestler like Mak like usual. Khabilov SHOULD be able to get it done but not risking -money on this guy again. He's burned me too many times. Think Cirkunov can bully Krylov and drag him to deeper waters and drown him. An early takedown and top control probably zaps quite a bit of Krylov's power and then its 1 way traffic. I feel like this fight could last weird enough

Could be right about this Tpow.. Wrestlers rule as the saying goes in MMA...

[PaperTrail07]

Kennedy is top top....people forget.....however KG is flat out on the rise as well....tough call but would lean Kennedy until KG wins a fight (like this one)....

Just think Kennedys size will play a big factor, people really forget how good he is he's easily a top 5 MW and I think he smothers gastelum here , UFC brass gave kelvin this fight to punish him imo, Kennedy has been gone for a while but he's a certified killer I see him neutralizing kelvin for 3 rounds probably take him straight and decision prop +175, another side note watching magny take down kelvin a bunch in there previous fight gives me high hopes Tim Kennedy will definitely be able to take him down and control him ontop

pumped to see cub at +220 though that's definitely worth a shot, the super boy is actually extremely impressive in the striking and mma IQ but cub is a seasoned vet this fight is a toss up for me so I'll take the +220 all day and hope it hits


btw GJ on 5-0 this week BTP I'm pretty pissed I took Cowboys -3 they won by 2 on a last minute full field drive smh

[Unwritten Law]

Holloway will be the new interim champion.

[PaperTrail07]

Swanson at 2:1.....get it now...

[firekillex]

he still has to win the fight, pettis cant win it regardless and losses 20% of his purse....worst card in ufc history

theres literally a worse card the night before lmao... this is still a solid card with a ton of elite talent, you have 3 comments on this page all complaining or hating , how about put some input on the card or betting perspective instead of being a baby, just because pettis is overweight doesnt make the fight any worse, he was still a 155 champ just a year ago and holloway is a top 3 145er, cerrone is top 5 170 now who just fought for a title, matt brown has been a top 10 talent, cub swanson exciting vet vs an up and coming striking phenom from asia, plenty of prospects and canadian talent as well. Guarantee everybody there at the event will enjoy it tbh, ton of solid exciting matchups just because theres not huge names doesnt mean the cards the worst ever ... i can name 5-10 events just this year that have been worse lol

[Hugo de Naranja]

This is a great card for hardcore fans. Just because it doesn't have McGoat at the top doesn't mean it won't be awesome.

[GoBlue77]

I might not fuk with it then. Kennedy hangs around with the top Middleweights and wins. I'll watch more tape coach.
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trust me. bet Gas. and this is coming from someone that from the surface was huge on Kennedy initially. Gas and Holloway!

[bjpenn85]

Why so heavy lean on gast?

[Unwritten Law]

Kennedy looked ripped as usual whereas Gas looks plump although he was never been known for his physique. Both will be hard to put each other away so I would lean on the over 2.5 as it's very likely to hit. For straight play, I like Kennedy and the price might actually end up close to a pick'em. Kennedy backers should be patient if you plan to take him.

[Snowball]

Leans:

Ortiz
Khalibov
Vanatta
Gagnon
Letourneau
Aubin
Krylov
Meck
Kennedy
Choi
Cerrone
Holloway

[Shagdogy]

Trying to get through some research today... Here's what I've got so far:

Zach Makovsky vs. Dustin Ortiz: I cap Makovsky at -220. A LOT of motion and action from Ortiz. He gets a little wild at times and Makovsky should be able to control him on the ground enough to get the decision. There's probably a little value here on Makovsky, but not enough. I'm laying off.

Rustam Khabilov vs. Jason Saggo: I cap Saggo at -120. There is value in this fight IMO. Saggo is bigger, stronger, and has a calm, technical ground game. He's comfortable on bottom but works sweeps and subs, and is very strong on top with calm control. High level BJJ. Khabilov is just too comfortable sitting inside of the guard. He won't hurt Saggo from there and will need to stay there for a long time with a very technical guy to win the fight. On the feet it's a wash. Khabilov may be a little better with his hands, but Saggo is good at using kicks to keep range and is good at keeping a slow pace on feet. At +170 I think Saggo is worth a small play. I could see him getting the advantage on the ground, especially late in the fight.