UFC 251: Usman vs. Burns (July 11, 2020)

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  • UncleChael
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    #36
    Originally posted by PaperTrail07
    Now this is a fight card


    Am I think only one who thinks Holloway has almost no chance?....just not the matchup for him
    I just played Holloway today @+203
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    • JC2008
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      #37
      So Masvidal looks to be in! Awesome.
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      • WolfTicketDealer
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        #38
        Masvidal is interesting against Usman. Going to be tempting depending on price. Either way not a fight to go big on.
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        • THE_LOCKSMITH
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          #39
          well its official
          Jorge Masvidal steps in on six days' notice to fight Kamaru Usman at UFC 251

          The UFC has managed to pull off one of the great late-replacement bookings in company history as Jorge Masvidal will fight Kamaru Usman for the welterweight title in the new UFC 251 main event. After Gilbert Burns was removed from Saturday's card because of a…
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          • Kermit
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            #40
            Originally posted by THE_LOCKSMITH
            well its official
            Jorge Masvidal steps in on six days' notice to fight Kamaru Usman at UFC 251

            https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/...d-fight-island
            Oh yeah.
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            • unitedlad
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              #41
              I’m going to be large on Usman with a round 1 Masvidal hedge
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              • WolfTicketDealer
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                #42
                Originally posted by unitedlad
                I’m going to be large on Usman with a round 1 Masvidal hedge
                Goes distance or Usman decision are better than Usman's ML price, which doesn't have much value. Might even be value on Mas if the line gets wider.
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                • Thrilla
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                  #43
                  l
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                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                    #44
                    Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos vs. Muslim Salikhov is an under the radar great fight.
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                    • frankieunits2685
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                      #45
                      I can see Masvidal/Usman going 5
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                      • Thrilla
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                        #46
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                        • PaperTrail07
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                          #47
                          Crazy skills right there......amazing matchup----too soon IMO
                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                          Elizeu Zaleski dos Santos vs. Muslim Salikhov is an under the radar great fight.
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                          • PaperTrail07
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                            #48
                            IMO its gonna be Usman dominating as the fight goes on and Masvidal unhappy with the "boring" style usman brings....
                            Originally posted by frankieunits2685
                            I can see Masvidal/Usman going 5
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                            • UncleChael
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                              #49
                              Chad Mendes dropped Volkanovski. Mad Max is gonna put that boy to sleeeeep. Usman has like 2 kos in the UFC.. definitely ain't putting Masvidal to sleep .. maybe when he's 50
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by UncleChael
                                Chad Mendes dropped Volkanovski. Mad Max is gonna put that boy to sleeeeep. Usman has like 2 kos in the UFC.. definitely ain't putting Masvidal to sleep .. maybe when he's 50
                                You know I love Max, but Mendes has WAY more One Punch Power than him.
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                                • UncleChael
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                  You know I love Max, but Mendes has WAY more One Punch Power than him.
                                  Mad Max has more cardio than Mendes and is a better striker than both.
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by UncleChael
                                    Mad Max has more cardio than Mendes and is a better striker than both.
                                    Definitely more cardio but I Volkanovski is not a gasser. Holloway feasts on guys that can handle his pace (Pettis, Aldo x2, Ortega) but we saw that Volkanovski had no problems in the later rounds.

                                    Debatable whether Holloway is a better striker than Volkanovski since Volkanovski beat him in a primarily striking fight the first time around.
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                                    • UncleChael
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                      Definitely more cardio but I Volkanovski is not a gasser. Holloway feasts on guys that can handle his pace (Pettis, Aldo x2, Ortega) but we saw that Volkanovski had no problems in the later rounds.

                                      Debatable whether Holloway is a better striker than Volkanovski since Volkanovski beat him in a primarily striking fight the first time around.
                                      I know immediately rematches usually don't favour the guy that just lost. I gotta go with what brought me to the dance. I must've watched that Poirier/Holloway fight 50 times... The boy doesn't quit. Debatable on the goat featherweight Holloway is. I'll tune in.
                                      Edit: let's see rounds 6 thru 10
                                      Last edited by UncleChael; 07-06-20, 04:30 PM.
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                                      • FlaxMartin
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                                        #54
                                        Wow, that´s quite a high odds for Paige? has she got even the slightest of chances?
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by FlaxMartin
                                          Wow, that´s quite a high odds for Paige? has she got even the slightest of chances?
                                          Sure. PVZ isn't that good but only Nunes and Shevchenko deserve those kind of favorite odds imo
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                                          • Thor4140
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                                            #56
                                            The reason Rose is favored is because the odds makers used their 20 20 vision and saw the first fight where in no way Andrade was winning anything and it makes ya wonder what the hell you guys were watching. I guess you all missed when Andrade tapped. She was getting beat from pillar to post outclassed by a better fighter. Ill give you guys Rose mental state and that is it. Andrade lucked out the first fight and will get stomped this one if Thug is taking it totally seriously. Than we will have the super fight with the Thug and the Asian. Just amazing that people actually think Andrade was taking over in round two lol. She was nothing more than a punching bag who caught lightning in a bottle.
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                                            • Thor4140
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                                              #57
                                              If Max loses that is three fights in a row. Two years ago nobody would have ever predicted that. Incredible he is this big of a dog but i would take Volk here as much as i love Max.
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                                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                The reason Rose is favored is because the odds makers used their 20 20 vision and saw the first fight where in no way Andrade was winning anything and it makes ya wonder what the hell you guys were watching. I guess you all missed when Andrade tapped. She was getting beat from pillar to post outclassed by a better fighter. Ill give you guys Rose mental state and that is it. Andrade lucked out the first fight and will get stomped this one if Thug is taking it totally seriously. Than we will have the super fight with the Thug and the Asian. Just amazing that people actually think Andrade was taking over in round two lol. She was nothing more than a punching bag who caught lightning in a bottle.
                                                Down to take Andrade for some BetPoints if you want.
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                                                • Thrilla
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                                                  #59
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                                                  • UncleChael
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                                                    #60
                                                    If it comes down to one round, I'll take Hiker Holloway at +200. Let's gooooo Blessed Express
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                                                    • slikec
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                                                      #61
                                                      At SBR Book Holloway right now is +230 lol. I max bet(is only 250points anyway).
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                                                      • Unwritten Law
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                                                        #62
                                                        Last time Volk/Max ended up unanimous for Volk but by a hairline. I don't think Max is a 2-1 underdog here. It's more of a 50/50 fight here.

                                                        Both fighters attempted 303 significant strikes with Volk landing 23 more of the 303. Max was hitting Volk more in the head/body, but his downfall was not checking those leg kicks as Max absorbed 75 strikes while landing only 17 of his own.

                                                        If this fight is close, I wouldn't be surprised to see Max earn the victory to set up a trilogy. At +205 it is well worth the risk to take Max here with those generous odds.

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                                                        • Demonata
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                                                          • 07-12-11
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                          The reason Rose is favored is because the odds makers used their 20 20 vision and saw the first fight where in no way Andrade was winning anything and it makes ya wonder what the hell you guys were watching. I guess you all missed when Andrade tapped. She was getting beat from pillar to post outclassed by a better fighter. Ill give you guys Rose mental state and that is it. Andrade lucked out the first fight and will get stomped this one if Thug is taking it totally seriously. Than we will have the super fight with the Thug and the Asian. Just amazing that people actually think Andrade was taking over in round two lol. She was nothing more than a punching bag who caught lightning in a bottle.
                                                          I totally agree man. I was even waisted and could see rose winning and I saw no takeover from andrade at all. I don't see why all the thug rose hate. No lucky knockout by dropping rose on here head this time! Thug rose Baby!
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                                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                                            #64
                                                            I just don't think this matchup is good for Max....no hate but he loses again...
                                                            Originally posted by Unwritten Law
                                                            Last time Volk/Max ended up unanimous for Volk but by a hairline. I don't think Max is a 2-1 underdog here. It's more of a 50/50 fight here.

                                                            Both fighters attempted 303 significant strikes with Volk landing 23 more of the 303. Max was hitting Volk more in the head/body, but his downfall was not checking those leg kicks as Max absorbed 75 strikes while landing only 17 of his own.

                                                            If this fight is close, I wouldn't be surprised to see Max earn the victory to set up a trilogy. At +205 it is well worth the risk to take Max here with those generous odds.

                                                            http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/efc40ec41114d8fa
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                                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                              IMO its gonna be Usman dominating as the fight goes on and Masvidal unhappy with the "boring" style usman brings....
                                                              I'd love to see Masvidal knock his ass out but far more likely will be Usman grinding out a unanimous decision win.
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                                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                                #66
                                                                beside it costing my pocket-I'd love it as well LOL....but yeah...I see him pushing him against the fence-not completely "winning" but on the better side of the exchanges......
                                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                I'd love to see Masvidal knock his ass out but far more likely will be Usman grinding out a unanimous decision win.
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                                                                • Thor4140
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  Down to take Andrade for some BetPoints if you want.
                                                                  i am not betting the fight because i dont like the odds. Even tho Rose looked mentally fit on countdown who knows after a round she might want to just give up the sport. I will go even up with you but not the odds that are up today.
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                                                                  • WolfTicketDealer
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                                                    The reason Rose is favored is because the odds makers used their 20 20 vision and saw the first fight where in no way Andrade was winning anything and it makes ya wonder what the hell you guys were watching. I guess you all missed when Andrade tapped. She was getting beat from pillar to post outclassed by a better fighter. Ill give you guys Rose mental state and that is it. Andrade lucked out the first fight and will get stomped this one if Thug is taking it totally seriously. Than we will have the super fight with the Thug and the Asian. Just amazing that people actually think Andrade was taking over in round two lol. She was nothing more than a punching bag who caught lightning in a bottle.


                                                                    Where did Andrade tap? If you're referring to 2:11, that's not a tap.
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                                                                    • UncleChael
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by DR225
                                                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comment..._this_camp_no/

                                                                      Holloway says he trained by himself this camp and didn't spar once. The only coaching was via zoom too. Not sure if he's being truthful here but if so, that's insane. Volkanovski's odds are going to go up.
                                                                      All in Volkanovski !!
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                                                                      • UncleChael
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Usman couldn't draw money with a green crayon and white piece paper - Colby Covington
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