Joshua Clottey vs Manny Pacquiao

**mv09** · 03-14-10, 12:37 AM

This fight is a blueprint on how to beat Pacquiao.

Clottey's defense for thh first half of the fight was very solid. His well timed punches were clean and effective - problem was that he was not throwing enough. The guy would get in a shell, throw 1 punch every 20 seconds.

Mayweather's defense is much better than Clottey's and his boxing IQ is better than anyone in the sport. If you don't punch and let Pacquaio hit you like a punching bag, even if he connects at 19%, he will wear you down.

Pacquiao is deceptively strong and he can beat you if you're not aggressive enough while mainting a solid defense.

Mayweather must be liking what he saw.

I really think Mayweather would defeat Pacquaio.

**BatemanPatrickl** · 03-14-10, 12:38 AM

Horrible fight.

**Bigmikesm** · 03-14-10, 12:44 AM

Glad I didn't waste my time or money on this fight.

**blueghost** · 03-14-10, 12:45 AM

B-O-R-I-N-G- nice fight whatever the challenger name was.. heres your check for throwing 75 punches in 12 rds..this is why boxing is dying..heyday is gone..get your check ,,make sure you dont get hurt then go home..an embarressment to once was a great sport

**xXxBallin21xXx** · 03-14-10, 12:46 AM

Pacquiao Wins, Im happy, but boring fight.

**spurginobili** · 03-14-10, 12:50 AM

Clottey is a thief. Stole his purse. Didn't want to get hurt or knocked out and played it safe. Lost opportunity to show something.

**Tree Rollins** · 03-14-10, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by mv09

This fight is a blueprint on how to beat Pacquiao.

Clottey's defense for thh first half of the fight was very solid. His well timed punches were clean and effective - problem was that he was not throwing enough. The guy would get in a shell, throw 1 punch every 20 seconds.

Mayweather's defense is much better than Clottey's and his boxing IQ is better than anyone in the sport. If you don't punch and let Pacquaio hit you like a punching bag, even if he connects at 19%, he will wear you down.

Pacquiao is deceptively strong and he can beat you if you're not aggressive enough while mainting a solid defense.

Mayweather must be liking what he saw.

I really think Mayweather would defeat Pacquaio.

Anyone's defense is good when they have their gloves over there face the entire time. If he was to throw more punches, he wouldn't have been covering his face so much, which means he would have been getting hit. In that fight, I definitely didn't see a "blueprint" for beating Manny.

**StraitShooter** · 03-14-10, 01:10 AM

thats why i dont wait 6 months for a big name fight..fuk dat shit

Id rather watch friday night fights on espn or the mexicans kill each other on telemundo and telefutura

UFC rocks too..give me anderson silva against another bad ass any day of the week

even elite xc with uriah faber and gang

**Spanks** · 03-14-10, 01:23 AM

boxing blows

**thecomebacker** · 03-14-10, 01:33 AM

thanks Clottey for some easy cash

**ZetaPsi808** · 03-14-10, 01:51 AM

Pacquiao threw three times as many punches as Clottey, an average of 100 a round, and landed as many power shots as Clottey threw. Final punch stats showed Pacquiao landing 246 of 1,231 punches to 108 of 399 for Clottey.

WOW

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-14-10, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by 2daBank

it didnt even look like they where in the same weight class...manny looked tiny

Clottey was much bigger than Pac and he hit harder but that fuk was just happy to get a check. He wasn't about to take any chances and kissed Manny's ass before they even got in the ring and all the time after. Manny outworked his ass 3 times over.

Where was the hunger? Motivation? I believe Clottey has the tools to beat Manny but he has zero heart. If he took his hands out of his vagina, he might have been able to throw a few punches. Go back to Ghana you lazy fuk. It would have been a better fight if you couldn't get a **** and your trainer got in the ring to fight.

**onlyonerickyhatt** · 03-14-10, 03:53 AM

Weak fight by Clottey. Pac man has to fight Mayweather soon or boxing is going to take a huge hit.

**jin2daj** · 03-14-10, 04:11 AM

yay easy money. Not gonna lie, i was a bit nervous going into this fight as i had put down 100% of my bankroll on it. But luckily pacman came out ahead, and my account just grew with 20% interest

**newbeewhore** · 03-14-10, 04:12 AM

Originally posted by jin2daj

yay easy money. Not gonna lie, i was a bit nervous going into this fight as i had put down 100% of my bankroll on it. But luckily pacman came out ahead, and my account just grew with 20% interest

Wow man, i'd never ever ever do that again. One of the dumbest things i've ever heard when it comes to gambling.

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-14-10, 11:12 AM

How much did manny make off of this fight?

**adlai** · 03-14-10, 11:16 AM

Not enough. Clottey should have to surrender half his share for that crap he laid out on the canvas last night. I'm glad I watched the fight for free online.
Manny looked vulnerable last night too. As a Manny fan, I hope he sticks with politics, he could lose his next time out.

**DOMINATER** · 03-14-10, 11:41 AM

Mayweather , will beat the pacman it will be a k.o . In the 6 th round.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 03-14-10, 11:51 AM

Mayweather doesn't really knock guys out so I'm not sure if he can KO pacman because of pac's work rate/stamina. Pacman has never really had stellar defense. He just outworks guys and uses his quickness and punches from all angles to keep you off balance. He's going to throw 100 punches a round whereas Mayweather is going to be half that, around 50. Floyd's defense is so good that he rarely get's hit. That's going to be the story. Can Pac hit Floyd at a high connect rate, out work him and out score him? I'm not sure either one of them can get a knock down.

I can't wait for Floyd and Shane. That's the real fight...

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-14-10, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by adlai

Not enough.

How much is not enough eh?

**Powderguy** · 03-14-10, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by OMGRandyJackson

How much is not enough eh?

It's called "google", use it!

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**1UP** · 03-14-10, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by 1UP

People still count Manny out with the size "factor" after he destroyed DLH and Cotto? Clottey's weight will have no bearing on this, trust me. He is not a busy fighter, and that is his biggest problem.

He struggles every time his hand speed is slower than his opponent. What do you think a workhorse like Manny will do, get into a defensive shell and let Clottey pin him in a corner? It won't even be close going into the 10th.

As good of a fighter as Josh is, he is completely outclassed here. Great chance to see the final bell, seeing how the guy never seems to be hurt. No chance to keep the scores close though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT2s9LTUvaA&feature=player_embedded

**Shafted69** · 03-14-10, 12:28 PM

Wow what a snoozer. . .. I fell dead asleep after the 4th round .. . ... What a waste of pay per view dollars i spent. ... .. ........ ...
I want my refund

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**mv09** · 03-14-10, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Tree Rollins

Anyone's defense is good when they have their gloves over there face the entire time. If he was to throw more punches, he wouldn't have been covering his face so much, which means he would have been getting hit. In that fight, I definitely didn't see a "blueprint" for beating Manny.

Early on in the fight, it wasn't as lopsided as it became later. Paq threw 100 punches each round and missed with over 75-80 of them. Mayweather, as mentioned, does not knock people out - I assume that his gameplan will be similar to Clottey's - Mayweather's legendary defense with much more effective counterpunches and clean shots. He'd be much more aggressive backing Manny up from time to time and he would win many many rounds doing this, frustrating Manny, and forcing him to back up a little.

The problem with DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey is that they didn't trust their defense enough to counterpunch. If they did, they'd get hit hard. Mayweather, while not as fast as Pacquiao, he could get a hit in and move away. It's going to be a great fight, but Mayweather would win. He's just in a completely different class than Manny's recent opponents who literally have no gameplan but become a shell after 4 rounds.

**Tree Rollins** · 03-14-10, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by mv09

Early on in the fight, it wasn't as lopsided as it became later. Paq threw 100 punches each round and missed with over 75-80 of them. Mayweather, as mentioned, does not knock people out - I assume that his gameplan will be similar to Clottey's - Mayweather's legendary defense with much more effective counterpunches and clean shots. He'd be much more aggressive backing Manny up from time to time and he would win many many rounds doing this, frustrating Manny, and forcing him to back up a little.

The problem with DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey is that they didn't trust their defense enough to counterpunch. If they did, they'd get hit hard. Mayweather, while not as fast as Pacquiao, he could get a hit in and move away. It's going to be a great fight, but Mayweather would win. He's just in a completely different class than Manny's recent opponents who literally have no gameplan but become a shell after 4 rounds.

He didn't wildly miss those 75-80 punches a round, they just hit Clottey in the gloves, the gloves that were glued to his face 75-80 percent of the time. The strategy to beating Manny could very well be to use a strong defense and counterpunch. If said strategy was supposed to be employed by Clottey, he musta forgot about it. If you call throwing one punch every 10 or 15 seconds and rarely even putting combinations together a strategy, that's fine, but it certainly isn't ever going to be an effective one.

**Tree Rollins** · 03-14-10, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by mv09

Early on in the fight, it wasn't as lopsided as it became later. Paq threw 100 punches each round and missed with over 75-80 of them. Mayweather, as mentioned, does not knock people out - I assume that his gameplan will be similar to Clottey's - Mayweather's legendary defense with much more effective counterpunches and clean shots. He'd be much more aggressive backing Manny up from time to time and he would win many many rounds doing this, frustrating Manny, and forcing him to back up a little.

The problem with DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Clottey is that they didn't trust their defense enough to counterpunch. If they did, they'd get hit hard. Mayweather, while not as fast as Pacquiao, he could get a hit in and move away. It's going to be a great fight, but Mayweather would win. He's just in a completely different class than Manny's recent opponents who literally have no gameplan but become a shell after 4 rounds.

He didn't wildly miss those 75-80 punches a round, they just hit Clottey in the gloves, the gloves that were glued to his face 75-80 percent of the time. The strategy to beating Manny could very well be to use a strong defense and counterpunch. If said strategy was supposed to be employed by Clottey, he musta forgot about it. If you call throwing one punch every 10 or 15 seconds and rarely even putting combinations together a strategy, that's fine, but it certainly isn't ever going to be an effective one.

**ttwarrior1** · 03-14-10, 02:27 PM

if clottey was more aggressive he would of got knocked out and hit even more dudes

**GoldRush7** · 03-14-10, 03:12 PM

Pacman = G.O.A.t

**RobbReport** · 03-14-10, 03:14 PM

i knew it.

**1UP** · 03-14-10, 04:04 PM

Too many excuses in the air for Clottey. The guy was simply outclassed, and only had a punchers chance to begin. He went out there and fought his fight. What more could you ask of a fighter? The man had his advantages and history could have told you he doesn't capitalize on them when he has any.

Couldn't finish a blown up and hurt Corrales (equivalent to Mayweather/JMM). Couldn't handle Margacheato's work rate (Manny's basically the same, Marg's just nonstop pressure). Couldn't close out Cotto in the championship rounds. Can't knock anyone out.

And seriously, what sense does it make to go into the biggest fight of your career without a game plan?

Also, did I really just see "Ricky Hatton" and "defense" in the same sentence?

**Pabinator** · 03-17-10, 02:08 PM

Do i dare say this was fixed? No gameplan, not once did they exchange punchs. It looked like a intense sparring session. Seems all fishy to me. Especially when they never were throwing punchs at the same time. Even if that is clottys style, it was too conveniant

**phillybadboy** · 03-17-10, 03:20 PM

skills pay the bills in boxing,steroids dont win fights,this is not track,cycling,weightlifting or bodybuilding

**OMGRandyJackson** · 03-18-10, 08:25 PM

Lets just hope mayweather wins in May

**Tree Rollins** · 03-18-10, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Pabinator

Do i dare say this was fixed? No gameplan, not once did they exchange punchs. It looked like a intense sparring session. Seems all fishy to me. Especially when they never were throwing punchs at the same time. Even if that is clottys style, it was too conveniant

I don't think it was fixed. But if it was, i wouldn't be all that shocked.