Shane Mosley vs Vargas

**onlooker** · 02-24-06, 05:13 PM

Well since he bet Mosley 100k on knocking him out, Id say he wants to win his bet.

If Mosley still dont have his speed of old, he will get beat up by Vargas.

**andrew057** · 02-25-06, 01:39 AM

Im extremely interested in this, although both fighters are past it, its an even contest imo. I dont have time to do a write up but my tips for the card are:

Vargas KO @ $6.10: I see this as an even fight and getting Vargas to win by stoppage at $6.10 is way overs imo. Not betting the fighter, betting the odds. Also a small bet on Vargas as a cover for the KO bet.

Gonzalez vs. Johnson U/9.5 @ $1.65: Too sharp Johnson is one of the greatest fighters of this era but is way past it now. Gonzalez will be too strong and young and should stop Johnson sadly.

And for the casual fan, check Joel Julio on the undercard. This guy is all class and a future star imo. GL everyone.

**imgv94** · 02-25-06, 07:42 AM

Vargas gets killed by Delahoya
Mosley beats Delahoya twice.

I'll take Mosley..

**newb411breaker19** · 02-25-06, 09:59 AM

from what i've seen on espn of moseley's last fight, his hand speed looks much slower

**andrew057** · 02-25-06, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

Vargas gets killed by Delahoya
Mosley beats Delahoya twice.

I'll take Mosley..

WORST.LOGIC.EVER

**imgv94** · 02-25-06, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by andrew057

WORST.LOGIC.EVER

why? and whats yours?

**presley177** · 02-25-06, 02:14 PM

when were those fights img?

a lot can change in boxing.

I'm waiting but might take Vargas

**imgv94** · 02-25-06, 02:18 PM

Hey I am just saying that I know both of these fighters very well
and I or anyone I know thinks Vargas is a solid LEVEL 1 fighter.

Mosley will fvck him up. Vargas did get his ass kicked by
Delahoya. Or anyone who didn't suck.

**onlooker** · 02-25-06, 09:11 PM

Hey Img.

Yes Mosley beat DeLaHoya twice, but his speed was much better back then.
He has lost alot of that in recent years. He hasnt been no where near the speed he had years ago. So unless he got that back, I dont see him winning tonight.

But Vargas does have a suspect chin, and could be knocked out by a good shot. I think Vargas comes out pressing the issue and he could very well catch Mosley with a shot to knock him out.

If Winky had a knock out punch, he would of floored Mosley in both those fights.

But I will not be beating it, because I didnt get the memo on who was setup to win tonight.

**imgv94** · 02-25-06, 09:18 PM

I just think Vargas is a nothing. But whoever they want 2 win
will win.. They suck. they

**onlooker** · 02-25-06, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

I just think Vargas is a nothing. But whoever they want 2 win
will win.. They suck. they

I know it. Vargas has been a big bust since he hit the scene. A lot of people thought he was going to be a big star in boxing, but hasnt amounted to shiet.

I think he took on the big name fights to soon in his career and it just crushed his confidence. He should of run through lesser fighters, then moved on to the bigger names of the game.

**imgv94** · 02-25-06, 09:28 PM

you think that 100k bet is real? Mosley is a weird dude. I heard
he never had a life.

**onlooker** · 02-26-06, 12:43 AM

Mosley won by 10th round TKO.

Vargas's left eye was swell shut, and they stopped it. He was actually winning the fight a round before. The cards were close.

I missed the punch that caused that swealling to start. Was it a punch or a headbunt? As big and fast as that thing swelled, it had to be a head bunt. But I didnt see them replaying it or anything so Im up in the air about it.

**onlooker** · 02-26-06, 02:11 AM

Check out that eye.

We can use this as a avatar for the loser of personal challenges/bets. So it shows they got beat up in the challenge/bet.

**bigboydan** · 02-26-06, 02:40 AM

this fight sucked! i'm just glad i didn't buy it is all.

**Illusion** · 02-26-06, 03:38 AM

Saw this at the bar, what a waste.

**imgv94** · 02-26-06, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by andrew057

WORST.LOGIC.EVER

U look so stupid now.. LOL.

**onlooker** · 02-26-06, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

U look so stupid now.. LOL.

I wouldnt say that. The score cards were close, and the swelling ended the fight. Im not sure how it swelled up so fast, maybe a head bunt or thumb ? That eye just got fat quick.

**imgv94** · 02-26-06, 03:59 PM

Vargas is nothing. Mosley ain't even that much. I heard from my
boys that watched it that Mosley isn't that great anymore. The old
Mosley would of made that swelling worse then that.

**onlooker** · 02-26-06, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by imgv94

Vargas is nothing. Mosley ain't even that much. I heard from my
boys that watched it that Mosley isn't that great anymore. The old
Mosley would of made that swelling worse then that.

Ive been saying that, they both are much anymore. Yes the old Mosley would of tore up Vargas more with the speed he USE to have. But Vargas was a little better and sharper back then too. So the fight would of been better if they met a few years earlier.

It just sucks for everyone that paid the high prices for the tickets and everyone that paid for the PPV. They got ripped off.

**andrew057** · 02-27-06, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by imgv94

U look so stupid now.. LOL.

Nope, its still the worst logic ever. I hope you keep betting on fights using that logic and inflate the odds for the rest of us. As your logic wont always work.

Youre the stupid one as anyone who knows anything about boxing would tell you Oscar shouldve been given the decision in the second fight.

I guess Simon Brown was a better fight than Ray Leonard because he beat Terry Norris and Leonard couldnt?

Brown > Norris
Norris > Leonard

Guess that means Brown > Leonard?

**imgv94** · 02-27-06, 04:40 PM

I agree Delahoya should of won that 2nd fight against Mosley but
at the same time Mosley fought Delahoya alot better than Vargas
did. I do not bet boxing it's too fixed. GL betting boxing.