Rumor has it Stephon Garcia was involved in something similar for South Carolina
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The one they lost to San Jose State was great...so much whining and crying.
Never watched any of their games this year but all the results made sense to me.Comment -
hope they hang carl english timmy chung niki rollovich along with that hawaii warrior mascot in no particular orderComment -
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Wished all games were fixed so much easier to bet on.Comment -
yet people wanna say games arent fixedComment -
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lol lets suck him off with 3 more posts for a completely useless thread
Many here suspected Hawaii was shaving after the UNLV game, not exactly nostradamus to suspect. (Hawaii was covering in the 4th Q of that SJ game at one point btw)
If it was a "Hawaii is fixing - SJ ML Large" thread then it would be significantLast edited by Sunde91; 11-22-11, 10:42 PM.Comment -
Shocking.
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I remember I bet NMSU for the first half and won because the Hawaii kicker missed an XP with like 20 seconds left.Comment -
I've suspense Hawaii of this for years I blindly faded them against UNLV and SJSU and just laughed at how they lost.
It's pretty awesome being on the right side of the fix.
You may he losing but you know some BS is going to happen and you'll win.
Didnt Hawaii let SJSU score late in that game. I just remember thinking it looked weird.Comment -
That San Jose State game was pretty ridiculous......What really stands out to me is I remember, more than any other win or loss this season, is that I had that weird feeling of "What the fukk just happened?" as the game ended
Had Hawaii in that game and didn't exactly call a fix at the moment, but shit just seemed "off" to me. I'm sure you guys can remember a bet or 2 where something just doesn't feel right. Well that's exactly what this game was to me.
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Tweter from LV Sun writer
November 22nd, 2011 at 2:58 pm
UNLV Beat writer Ryan Greene
"The #UNLV money line when it hosted #Hawaii opened at around +1600. By kickoff, it was around +700. Pretty mysterious movement at the time."Comment -
I haven't bet on a Hawaii game this year because after watching a few of their games it was obvious to me they were point shaving.
It doesn't stop at Hawaii. Other teams and coaches should be investigated. Toledo comes to mind, along with the entire MAC.
More games are fixed than you think.Comment -
In the third quarter of the Hawaii Nevada game, I remember watching this play...
1st and Goal at NEV 1Joey Iosefa rush, fumbled, recovered by Nevad Duke Williams in the endzone, Duke Williams for 7 yards, to the Nevad 7.
It looked like he literally threw the ball on the ground before he crossed the goalline. It was a completely unforced fumble that smelled like a shave.Last edited by robinhood; 11-23-11, 06:38 AM.Comment -
One of my posting buddies lives in Maui, he knows state authorities, anyway, he says there is damning evidence, concrete evidence, but this (like many other allegations) will be swept under the carpet, and nothing will come out of it.
He's willing to bet money on that.Comment -
When this happened I was joking about it with another poster here, something along the lines of, "hey, fly the family to Vegas to watch the game, then have them place down a huge bet in the sports book, the team takes a dive against UNLV. Go home rich. They probably throw a party like it's a customary tradition."
Hilarious.No more of that talk, or I'll put the leeches on you.Comment -
Look at the UW game.
Chun had 2 XP *missed*, one returned for 2 points, and UH laid down on a 2 point try.
6 points right there, 2 blocked kicks = 2, 1 of them returned for 2 =4, and the 2 point conversion they laid down.
Final number was Washington Huskies -5.5 at kickoff
Game ended up Huskies
40-32 Huskies , it's 40-34 without the two *missed* XP's, now we don't know if UH converts that 2 point conversion, that would have made it 40-36, but get a hold of the replay of that attempt, no effort at all
Chun had to be paid off before that game.
Once again, Washington -5.5 wins by 8
Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER HAW WASH
TD 13:50 Chris Polk 2 Yd Run (Erik Folk Kick) 0 7
TD 07:03 Jermaine Kearse 10 Yd Pass From Keith Price (Erik Folk Kick) 0 14
TD 02:39 Jermaine Kearse 20 Yd Pass From Keith Price (Erik Folk Kick) 0 21
SECOND QUARTER HAW WASH
TD 06:19 Sterling Jackson 1 Yd Run (Kenton Chun Kick) 7 21
TD 02:20 Richard Torres 99 Yd Interception Return (Kenton Chun Kick) 14 21
TD 00:44 Devin Aguilar 31 Yd Pass From Keith Price (Erik Folk Kick) 14 28
THIRD QUARTER HAW WASH
TD 07:42 Bryant Moniz 1 Yd Run (Pat Blocked) 20 28
FG 03:30 Erik Folk 36 Yd 20 31
FOURTH QUARTER HAW WASH
TD 13:42 Sterling Jackson 2 Yd Run (Two-Point Conversion Failed) 26 31
TD 10:02 Austin Seferian-Jenkins 18 Yd Pass From Keith Price (Erik Folk Kick) 26 38
TD 01:39 Jeremiah Ostrowski 8 Yd Pass From Bryant Moniz (Pat Blocked) 32 38
DC 01:39 Desmond Trufant 0 Yd Off A Blocked Extra Point 32 40Comment -
Look at 01:39
UH down 38-26, Rainbows knock it in to make it 38-32, BEFORE THE XP try.
LINE IS -5.5
Do the math, XP blocked and returned back for two.
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Look at stats in that game the fumbles would be the key
anyone have film of it??
Plus Vegas can check bet amounts as can big offshore outfits that take large wagers
Most books do not take big bets on Hawaii games so lucky if they won a total of 50k
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No JJ
Books don't limit any Division I team, unless a particular game is circled.
You can cash a ticket up to 10K on any game in a Vegas sports book without them asking to prove who you are.
Anything over 10K, you need to do the red tape.Comment -
Not to add fuel to the conspiracy fire or anything... but there was a SERIOUS move toward UNLV in the couple of hours leading up to kickoff in that game. I remember watching my odds screen at the time joking that someone must have inside info that Hawaii was out partying in Vegas all night.
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Oh wow...stevenash from sbr has another "posting buddy" from another forum tell him that he "knows state authorities" and the fix is in but there will be cover up. That's got to be true...i mean that source sounds so credible
This is just an investigation based on an anonymous letter. That letter could be from a disgruntled sports bettor like any of the guys on here who already assume games are fixed. You guys are all jumping to conclusions. Let the legal process play out. You guys act like these college players should never fumble or make mistakes and if they do its gotta be a fix. Did you ever think that if nothing comes out of this that it's not because of a cover up, it's because there was no point shaving.
Let the legal process play out before you jump to conclusions. If they are guilty we will know. This is not something local authorities can cover up because this will end up involving the FBI as this issue affected interstate commerce thereby giving the feds jurisdiction to take over.
It might be true and it might not, but most of you are just jumping to conclusions because it makes you feel better about your losing bets. Let's just see what happens. Either way, I can guaranty there wont be a cover up because this will become a federal issue very soon as the locals will be removed from the investigation.
Please stop with the x- files bullshit.
Stick to the facts and let the investigation play out.Comment -
LTA,
This entire message board is designed for speculation. Your analogy to X-files is also wrong. Games have been fixed before, and will be fixed in the future. There is documented proof of that.Comment -
cant wait to see how this plays outComment -
The guy I allude to is a Government engineer for the Navy.
He is a friend of my cousin who I talk to from time to time.
Never did I say what he said was true or not true.
I'm just stating what he told me.
This is a message board, would you like me to explain to you what the essence of a message board is?Comment -
Fair enough...but you have posted it numerous threads as if it's true. Excuse me, but I am skeptical of the old "a friend of a friend told me" bs that gets thrown around. I prefer to deal in facts rather than hearsay. As I am sure you understand, anyone can make posts such as yours on either side of the issue.
Truthfully, I hate this stuff because then you get more dumbasses on here posting "fix" threads which really annoy me. Remember the clown that said minnessota would beat michigan earlier this season and they ended up losing by 58
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Lta, your saying about jumping to conclusions... but weren't you the same person who was jumping to conclusions regarding what paterno knew or knowns? Games are fixed that's a fact.. plenty of examples of it... how about toledo vs cuse this year? There's another game that screams fix.... how about iona vs wmu in hoops spread is 7 iona up 8 9 seconds left all they have to do is run the clock out they turn the ball over and let wmu put in an easy basketComment -
whatever went wrong last night after the first 15 min, they absolutely sucked on the courtComment
