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  • peterpan19
    Restricted User
    • 11-02-08
    • 3377

    #106
    Now that tor is the fav, we play the ML?
    Which book do I have t look at ?
    Thx
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7261

      #107
      Originally posted by peterpan19
      Now that tor is the fav, we play the ML?
      Which book do I have t look at ?
      Thx
      For now, that would be correct. They are actually at even money right now (-110). ScoresandOdds.com lines are all that matter when determining M/L or P/L. Currently, M/L is the play, but that could change by tonight. -300 is really steep for a (C) bet, so I hope the M/L play sticks, although that 1 1/2 may really come in handy in this one.
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      • Ryencee
        SBR Hustler
        • 10-18-11
        • 86

        #108
        Originally posted by Wallco99
        For now, that would be correct. They are actually at even money right now (-110). ScoresandOdds.com lines are all that matter when determining M/L or P/L. Currently, M/L is the play, but that could change by tonight. -300 is really steep for a (C) bet, so I hope the M/L play sticks, although that 1 1/2 may really come in handy in this one.
        Seeing as how Toronto will probably be up 3-1 in the 3rd with 4 min to go and then the Sens will tie it up and go into OT that +1 1/2 is gonna be nice to have
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        • Wallco99
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-01-11
          • 7261

          #109
          Originally posted by Ryencee
          Seeing as how Toronto will probably be up 3-1 in the 3rd with 4 min to go and then the Sens will tie it up and go into OT that +1 1/2 is gonna be nice to have
          Yes, but the P/L has climbed out of control (-340). A $557 bet will cost you $1893. I am not betting it unless they are the dog, then system says to. If I lose, then I lose.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #110
            Wallco NHL GOLD
            2011-12 System to date: 14-2 (fin. series)
            System profit/loss: -15.56 units(finished series)
            Current open series: 2 (-6.36 units)

            (10/30/11):
            #12 Toronto (M/L) (C) - Loss
            #17 St. Louis (M/L) (B) - Loss

            v1 Plays
            (A) 6-6
            (B) 4-2
            (C) 0-1
            Losses: Ottawa (-10.96 u)

            v2 Plays
            (A) 3-3
            (B) 1-1
            (C) 0-1
            Losses: Montreal (-18.60 u)


            There are no system plays for (10/31/11):
            #17 Resumes (C) on 11/3/11
            #18 Resumes v2 (B) on 11/1/11


            ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
            System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
            Last edited by Wallco99; 10-30-11, 10:51 PM.
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            • roile
              SBR Rookie
              • 10-28-11
              • 8

              #111
              Well I got Toronto P/L at -370...(1.27 in my continent) but it was worth it...
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              • alexknyc
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 03-22-11
                • 861

                #112
                I don't know that any bet will win often enough for a -370 bet to be worth taking.
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                • Ryencee
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 10-18-11
                  • 86

                  #113
                  PL for the win. Luckily got it at -300 before it went crazy
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                  • Wallco99
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7261

                    #114
                    Time to start racking up some (A) bet wins.
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                    • BlindBeggar
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 09-19-10
                      • 71

                      #115
                      Thanks for posting.
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                      • Wallco99
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-01-11
                        • 7261

                        #116
                        Wallco NHL GOLD
                        2011-12 System to date: 14-2 (fin. series)
                        System profit/loss: -15.56 units(finished series)
                        Current open series: 2 (-6.36 units)


                        v1 Plays
                        (A) 6-6
                        (B) 4-2
                        (C) 0-1
                        Losses: Ottawa (-10.96 u)

                        v2 Plays
                        (A) 3-3
                        (B) 1-1
                        (C) 0-1
                        Losses: Montreal (-18.60 u)


                        Games for (11/1/11):
                        #17 Resumes (C) on 11/3/11
                        #18 Minnesota @ Detroit (M/L) v2 (B) (7:35 pm EDT)
                        #19 Ottawa @ Boston (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
                        #20 Ottawa @ Boston (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EDT)


                        ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                        System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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                        • Maxi_EV
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 05-11-10
                          • 535

                          #117
                          Wallco?

                          Any rules regarding bad odds like Detroit today @ -196 ?
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                            Wallco?

                            Any rules regarding bad odds like Detroit today @ -196 ?
                            M/L on favorites.
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                            • Wallco99
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-01-11
                              • 7261

                              #119
                              Wallco NHL GOLD
                              2011-12 System to date: 16-2 (fin. series)
                              System profit/loss: -13.56 units(finished series)
                              Current open series: 2 (-11.51 units)

                              (11/1/11):
                              #18 Detroit (M/L) v2 (B) - Loss
                              #19 Boston (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
                              #20 Boston (M/L) (A) - Win

                              v1 Plays
                              (A) 7-6
                              (B) 4-2
                              (C) 0-1
                              Losses: Ottawa (-10.96 u)

                              v2 Plays
                              (A) 4-3
                              (B) 1-2
                              (C) 0-1
                              Losses: Montreal (-18.60 u)


                              There are no system plays for (11/2/11):
                              #17 Resumes (C) on 11/3/11
                              #18 Resumes v2 (C) on 11/3/11


                              ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                              System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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                              • jnsbanman
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-08-11
                                • 526

                                #120
                                Just curious... Who is the C bet on tomorrow?... #17 was STL but they do not play till the 4th vs Vancouver.
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                                • peterpan19
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-02-08
                                  • 3377

                                  #121
                                  Its LA I think
                                  BOL
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                                  • jnsbanman
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-08-11
                                    • 526

                                    #122
                                    ??? Time to read the first post for me.

                                    EDIT: Now I get it... Edmonton has won 5 straight so we are fading them vs the kings.
                                    Last edited by jnsbanman; 11-02-11, 12:46 PM.
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                                    • Wallco99
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by jnsbanman
                                      Just curious... Who is the C bet on tomorrow?... #17 was STL but they do not play till the 4th vs Vancouver.
                                      #17 is an Edmonton Fade.
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                                      • Wallco99
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-01-11
                                        • 7261

                                        #124
                                        Wallco NHL GOLD
                                        2011-12 System to date: 16-2 (fin. series)
                                        System profit/loss: -13.56 units(finished series)
                                        Current open series: 2 (-11.51 units)


                                        v1 Plays
                                        (A) 7-6
                                        (B) 4-2
                                        (C) 0-1
                                        Losses: Ottawa (-10.96 u)

                                        v2 Plays
                                        (A) 4-3
                                        (B) 1-2
                                        (C) 0-1
                                        Losses: Montreal (-18.60 u)


                                        Games for (11/3/11):
                                        #17 Edmonton @ L.A. Kings (M/L) (C) (10:35 pm EDT)
                                        #18 Calgary @ Detroit (M/L) v2 (C) (7:35 pm EDT)
                                        #21 New Jersey (+1½) @ Philadelphia v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
                                        #22 Nashville (+1½) @ Phoenix (A) (10:05 pm EDT)


                                        ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                                        System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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                                        • hagball52
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-22-10
                                          • 3053

                                          #125
                                          Just for fun, look what JM sent me:



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                                          • Wallco99
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-01-11
                                            • 7261

                                            #126
                                            He sent me that too. I replied to him with all of his plays so far to date, and reminded him that I will never give him another dime and I will always know his system plays for EVERY system all the time. He hates when I do that, but still sends me this crap.
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                                            • peterpan19
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 11-02-08
                                              • 3377

                                              #127
                                              Hope we win both C bets today, that would be really important, I mean when do you start the year with 4 straight C bet losses?
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                                              • GGPLAYER
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-26-09
                                                • 2981

                                                #128
                                                The hair on the back of your head are soon going to rise on their
                                                own once you discover the startling details of my brand new
                                                NHL betting system and realize the incredibly ingenuity of my
                                                betting technique that has made NHL betting massively profitable
                                                every single season over the last 20 years! Again, during no NHL
                                                season has the system ever produced more than 1 loss, and most of
                                                the time you're going to go through the entirety of the season
                                                without suffering a single one!

                                                The new NHL season is starting NOW, and this is truly the
                                                perfect time for you to snatch my top-secret NHL betting system
                                                right out of my hands and create a whirlwind of head-spinning
                                                hockey betting profits for the entirety of your betting lifetime!

                                                ======================================== ============================

                                                This guy is the ultimate clown
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                                                • BernardMadoff
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-12-09
                                                  • 6679

                                                  #129
                                                  Whoa, alot of juices.
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                                                  • bauerranch
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-01-10
                                                    • 611

                                                    #130
                                                    I sent JM an email maybe one week ago asking his permission if I could sell his NHL System and use all of the PDF files that came with it. I told him since he gave me a life memership and was no longer using it I had hoped to bring it back to life.

                                                    --#1 I was giving him a dose of his BS back to him
                                                    --#2 Strange enough he sent me plays for tonight which is actually different that the emails you have above
                                                    --#3 He is a scam as always

                                                    Maybe I woke him up and realized there was some new blood out there!?
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                                                    • bauerranch
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-01-10
                                                      • 611

                                                      #131
                                                      See He likes me
                                                      Its only been 3 years since I got an NHL email from him until this morning---

                                                      As a customer of my NHL system, I want to send you a reminder of
                                                      our upcoming NHL betting series:

                                                      The NHL System picks for November 3rd, 2011 are:

                                                      Edmonton Oilers [A] bet
                                                      Calgary Flames [A] bet

                                                      This means that you would make the [A] wager for the team on the
                                                      left on the date that the game is played. Remember to bet on the
                                                      +1.5 Puck Line if it is offered, and bet on the Money Line if
                                                      the Puck Line shows up as -1.5.

                                                      If your [A] bet happens to lose on the first day, then you would
                                                      make a [B] bet for the same team again on their next game when they
                                                      play, and a [C] bet on their last play if necessary.

                                                      Note that if you bet on the +1.5 Puck Line, then you will win
                                                      your bet even if your team loses by 1!

                                                      One more thing to keep in mind is that sometimes you may not
                                                      immediately see the game or the Puck Line available for betting on
                                                      the betting site. If that's the case, just wait and check back later.
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                                                      • Maxi_EV
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-11-10
                                                        • 535

                                                        #132
                                                        Looks like Nashville is fav now!
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                                                        • roile
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 10-28-11
                                                          • 8

                                                          #133
                                                          It seems that the original JM system beats Wallco's NHL Gold. No offense, just an observation. Edmonton and Calgary were A bets for JM, LAK and DET were C bets for Wallco...well, you see the results. I am terribly sorry to say, but this system seems to be having a losing season.
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                                                          • dontbuythehook
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 09-23-11
                                                            • 837

                                                            #134
                                                            martingale systems are for lazy people. you are just gambling and praying it doesnt go to a C bet, b/c if and when you lose 2 bets in a row with one team the next time they play their % of winning does not rise simply b/c 'it's hard to lose 3 in a row compared to 2'.

                                                            morons
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #135
                                                              Terrible start, I agree, but it is far from over. Just don't know how the first 4 (C) bets can lose. Fortunately there are lots of plays in this system, more than any other. Hopefully that turns out to be a good thing. Depressing update around 11:00.
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                                                              • allidoiswin89
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-22-11
                                                                • 915

                                                                #136
                                                                yea already half way to 9 losses per year to be profitable in the first couple of weeks. BOL man
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                                                                • Maxi_EV
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-11-10
                                                                  • 535

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                                  Hi


                                                                  I want to know what is the worst downswing your system had IN ONE SEASON in terms of "RUNNING PROFIT" before bouncing back. Meaning that if we had to start a season with this downswing (without having collecting any profit yet), how many units should we have as a roll to take that swing?

                                                                  If you graph one season, what is the largest variation between linked high and low points?
                                                                  Understand why I asked, guys? There was no offense, just caution. Well, after Wallco replied to me, I set my unit at 0.5% of my roll. So, I'm still here and WILL CONTINUE with Wallco. Having 9 C losses per season (average) DOESN'T mean that they will be spread out equally. Let's hope we are going for a long quiet run for a couple of weeks. I have seen early losses in some chasing systems, including the one I am backtesting. There is no hurry to pull out the white flag. Bankroll management lesson....again.

                                                                  GL

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                                                                  • Maxi_EV
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 05-11-10
                                                                    • 535

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by roile
                                                                    It seems that the original JM system beats Wallco's NHL Gold. No offense, just an observation. Edmonton and Calgary were A bets for JM, LAK and DET were C bets for Wallco...well, you see the results. I am terribly sorry to say, but this system seems to be having a losing season.
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                                                                    • Maxi_EV
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-11-10
                                                                      • 535

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by dontbuythehook
                                                                      martingale systems are for lazy people. you are just gambling and praying it doesnt go to a C bet, b/c if and when you lose 2 bets in a row with one team the next time they play their % of winning does not rise simply b/c 'it's hard to lose 3 in a row compared to 2'.

                                                                      morons
                                                                      What a genius...

                                                                      Historically, what arr the odds that a Nhl team will lose 3 in a row (ml as fav and pl as dog) when they already lost 3 in a row?
                                                                      Start by answering that and THEN come and call people "morons".
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                                                                      • Wallco99
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 01-01-11
                                                                        • 7261

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                                        What a genius...

                                                                        Historically, what arr the odds that a Nhl team will lose 3 in a row (ml as fav and pl as dog) when they already lost 3 in a row?
                                                                        Start by answering that and THEN come and call people "morons".
                                                                        Actually, in post #2, I have already answered that for our first resident jackass , which clearly shows that usually doesn't happen that often, and is profitable to play those streaks. I guess whatever system he uses is 100% assured of success, wish he would let us in on his little secret.
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