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  • Maxi_EV
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-11-10
    • 535

    #141
    Anything for today?
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7261

      #142
      Wallco NHL GOLD
      2011-12 System to date: 18-4 (fin. series)
      System profit/loss: -46.03 units(finished series)
      Current open series: 0

      (11/3/11):
      #17 L.A. Kings (M/L) (C) - Loss
      #18 Detroit (M/L) v2 (C) - Loss
      #21 New Jersey (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
      #22 Nashville (+1½) (A) - Win


      v1 Plays
      (A) 8-6
      (B) 4-2

      (C) 0-2
      Losses: Ottawa (-10.96 u), Edmonton (-14.96 u)

      v2 Plays
      (A) 5-3
      (B) 1-2

      (C) 0-2
      Losses: Montreal (-18.60 u), Detroit (-19.51 u)


      Games for (11/4/11):
      #23 Montreal @ Ottawa (+1½) (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
      #24 Chicago @ Tampa Bay (M/L) (A) (7:35 pm EDT)


      ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
      System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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      • on3
        SBR MVP
        • 08-23-10
        • 2197

        #143
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        • on3
          SBR MVP
          • 08-23-10
          • 2197

          #144
          wallco, just looking to have some conversation about what we are seeing here. when doing the backtests, did the losses occur in the beginning of the season as we are seeing here or did they occur towards the end? if this is consistent with the backtests, then it is no time to panic, but if your backtests show that we can expect another 6-10 losses towards the 2nd half of the season then it might be time to cut and run.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #145
            Originally posted by on3
            wallco, just looking to have some conversation about what we are seeing here. when doing the backtests, did the losses occur in the beginning of the season as we are seeing here or did they occur towards the end? if this is consistent with the backtests, then it is no time to panic, but if your backtests show that we can expect another 6-10 losses towards the 2nd half of the season then it might be time to cut and run.
            That above post wasn't about you, I guess you knew that. I don't get the cartoon, but I guess it has some relevance or you probably wouldn't have posted it. Please explain. The losses are usually spread out. However, there were a couple seasons with multiple losses in November, not 4 losses, but still, more than one. 2005-06 had several more early losses than the other seasons. It did lose that year, but not much by the end. That season just continued to lose the whole way through, have to hope it won't happen that way again.
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            • GGPLAYER
              SBR MVP
              • 03-26-09
              • 2981

              #146
              Ott is -340 on the PL. I can't do that.
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              • Wallco99
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-01-11
                • 7261

                #147
                Some of these are pretty expensive for the early going. Fortunately, they have mostly been on (A) bets. I will die with the ship!!!!!!
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                • Riceboi
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-03-11
                  • 857

                  #148
                  off topic but will you be doing a similar thread when/if NBA starts? I'll probably tail you on that if you do it.

                  I'll just watch this NHL one to see how it turns out though.
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                  • Wallco99
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7261

                    #149
                    Originally posted by Riceboi
                    off topic but will you be doing a similar thread when/if NBA starts? I'll probably tail you on that if you do it.

                    I'll just watch this NHL one to see how it turns out though.
                    If I don't do my own, It will probably be in the JM NBA thread again.
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                    • knugen
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-09-09
                      • 2612

                      #150
                      Nice 2-0 night, Will we continue with Fade Oilers since they have won 3 new games?
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                      • Wallco99
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-01-11
                        • 7261

                        #151
                        Wallco NHL GOLD
                        2011-12 System to date: 20-4 (fin. series)
                        System profit/loss: -44.03 units (finished series)
                        Current open series: 0

                        (11/4/11):
                        #23 Ottawa (+1½) (A) - Win
                        #24 Tampa Bay (M/L) (A) - Win

                        v1 Plays
                        (A) 10-6
                        (B) 4-2
                        (C) 0-2
                        Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

                        v2 Plays
                        (A) 5-3
                        (B) 1-2
                        (C) 0-2
                        Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


                        Games for (11/5/11):
                        #25 Edmonton @ Phoenix (M/L) (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
                        #26 St. Louis (+1½) @ Minnesota (A) (8:05 pm EDT)
                        #27 Anaheim @ Detroit (M/L) v2 (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
                        #28 Pittsburgh @ L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (A) (10:35 pm EDT)


                        ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                        System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
                        Last edited by Wallco99; 11-05-11, 09:37 AM.
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                        • drvotip
                          Restricted User
                          • 01-18-11
                          • 53

                          #152
                          Great work wallco
                          Thanx
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                          • Wallco99
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-01-11
                            • 7261

                            #153
                            Wallco NHL GOLD
                            2011-12 System to date: 23-4 (fin. series)
                            System profit/loss: -41.03 units(finished series)
                            Current open series: 1 (-1.25 units)

                            (11/5/11):
                            #25 Phoenix (M/L) (A) - Win
                            #26 St. Louis (+1½) (A) - Win
                            #27 Detroit (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
                            #28 L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (A) - Loss

                            v1 Plays
                            (A) 12-6
                            (B) 4-2
                            (C) 0-2
                            Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

                            v2 Plays
                            (A) 6-4
                            (B) 1-2
                            (C) 0-2
                            Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


                            Games for (11/6/11):
                            #28 Resumes (B) on 11/7/11
                            #29 Winnipeg (+1½) @ N.Y. Rangers (A) (7:05 pm EST)


                            ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                            System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
                            Last edited by Wallco99; 11-06-11, 11:53 AM.
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                            • 1gamer
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 02-09-11
                              • 723

                              #154
                              Nice call on the RedWings last night buddy...made all my money back and then some from that RedWings meltdown last week...Keep up your winning ways.
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #155
                                Test
                                Last edited by Wallco99; 11-07-11, 09:26 AM.
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                                • Wallco99
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-01-11
                                  • 7261

                                  #156
                                  Time to get it back
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                                  • Maxi_EV
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-11-10
                                    • 535

                                    #157
                                    Los +1.5 is a B bet today, right?
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                                    • Wallco99
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #158
                                      Wallco NHL GOLD
                                      2011-12 System to date: 23-4 (fin. series)
                                      System profit/loss: -41.03 units(finished series)
                                      Current open series: 2 (-3.25 units)

                                      (11/6/11):
                                      #29 Winnipeg (+1½) (A) - Loss

                                      v1 Plays
                                      (A) 12-7
                                      (B) 4-2
                                      (C) 0-2
                                      Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

                                      v2 Plays
                                      (A) 6-4
                                      (B) 1-2
                                      (C) 0-2
                                      Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


                                      Games for (11/7/11):
                                      #28 L.A. Kings (+1½) @ San Jose v2 (B) (10:35 pm EDT)
                                      #29 Resumes (B) on 11/9/11


                                      ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                                      System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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                                      • Maxi_EV
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 05-11-10
                                        • 535

                                        #159
                                        Let's cash this!

                                        With that kind of juice, I don't want to see a C bet.
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                                        • Maxi_EV
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-11-10
                                          • 535

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                          Let's cash this!

                                          With that kind of juice, I don't want to see a C bet.
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                                          • Wallco99
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-01-11
                                            • 7261

                                            #161
                                            Wallco NHL GOLD
                                            2011-12 System to date: 23-4 (fin. series)
                                            System profit/loss: -41.03 units(finished series)
                                            Current open series: 2 (-8.88 units)

                                            (11/7/11):
                                            #28 L.A. Kings (+1½) v2 (B) - Loss

                                            v1 Plays
                                            (A) 12-7
                                            (B) 4-2
                                            (C) 0-2
                                            Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

                                            v2 Plays
                                            (A) 6-4
                                            (B) 1-3
                                            (C) 0-2
                                            Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


                                            Games for (11/8/11):
                                            #28 Nashville @ L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (C) (10:35 pm EST)
                                            #29 Resumes (B) on 11/9/11
                                            #30 Dallas @ Washington (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EST)


                                            ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                                            System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
                                            Last edited by Wallco99; 11-08-11, 05:07 PM.
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                                            • dominate.
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 04-02-11
                                              • 160

                                              #162
                                              Hello! Just came back from a HUGE vacation. Just checking in and saying thanks Wallco for all your work!
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                                              • Maxi_EV
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 05-11-10
                                                • 535

                                                #163
                                                Washington should be #30 , right?
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                                                • Mr. Green
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-01-11
                                                  • 251

                                                  #164
                                                  Let's go Kings!

                                                  BOL tonight
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                                                  • Wallco99
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                    • 7261

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by Maxi_EV
                                                    Washington should be #30 , right?
                                                    Correct, sorry about that.
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                                                    • Maxi_EV
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 05-11-10
                                                      • 535

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by Mr. Green
                                                      Let's go Kings!

                                                      BOL tonight
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                                                      • Maxi_EV
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-11-10
                                                        • 535

                                                        #167
                                                        Looking good...
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #168
                                                          Wallco NHL GOLD
                                                          2011-12 System to date: 24-4 (fin. series)
                                                          System profit/loss: -40.03 units(finished series)
                                                          Current open series: 2 (-3.55 units)

                                                          (11/8/11):
                                                          #28 L.A. Kings (M/L) v2 (C) - Win

                                                          v1 Plays
                                                          (A) 12-8
                                                          (B) 4-2

                                                          (C) 0-2
                                                          Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u)

                                                          v2 Plays
                                                          (A) 6-4
                                                          (B) 1-3

                                                          (C) 1-2
                                                          Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


                                                          Games for (11/9/11):
                                                          #29 N.Y. Rangers @ Ottawa (+1½) (B) (7:35 pm EST)
                                                          #30 Resumes (B) on 11/11/11


                                                          ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                                                          System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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                                                          • EasyPicks
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 10-21-11
                                                            • 3804

                                                            #169
                                                            -40 units....

                                                            unless there's a major winning streak coming in...this system is doomed this year!
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                                                            • WSnipez
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 10-13-10
                                                              • 30

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by EasyPicks
                                                              -40 units....

                                                              unless there's a major winning streak coming in...this system is doomed this year!

                                                              The system has around 200 plays and were about 30 plays in, plenty of time to get to the positive. At least that C bet hit last night lol
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                                                              • knugen
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-09-09
                                                                • 2612

                                                                #171
                                                                Mm, really nice juice tonight if it stays at +1,5 game...
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                                                                • Maxi_EV
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-11-10
                                                                  • 535

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by EasyPicks
                                                                  -40 units....

                                                                  unless there's a major winning streak coming in...this system is doomed this year!
                                                                  Past seasons shown that it can handle an average of 9 losses per year and still show an average profit of 70 units per year.
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                                                                  • knugen
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-09-09
                                                                    • 2612

                                                                    #173
                                                                    But that must also depend on how the losses were, i mean, 9 losses is 27 games, if all this 27 games were +1,5 games, its really tough to save that season, i don know how many of this losses that can be PL games and still be a plus season with 9 losses.. Im i right?
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                                                                    • Maxi_EV
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 05-11-10
                                                                      • 535

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by knugen
                                                                      But that must also depend on how the losses were, i mean, 9 losses is 27 games, if all this 27 games were +1,5 games, its really tough to save that season, i don know how many of this losses that can be PL games and still be a plus season with 9 losses.. Im i right?
                                                                      Yeah, I understand. Maybe Wallco has this info. What % of losses are on favs and what % on dogs.
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                                                                      • Maxi_EV
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 05-11-10
                                                                        • 535

                                                                        #175
                                                                        It is far from over. Each losses has cost us 16 units on average. If we add 5 more series losses to reach 9 (average per season), we add a 80 units loss to our -40 record. That brings us to -120 units in losses. Can we WIN more than 120 series until the end of the season. My answer is YES....

                                                                        ...with good banktoll management of course!

                                                                        We average 235 wins per season. We have already won 24.
                                                                        Last edited by Maxi_EV; 11-09-11, 04:00 PM.
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