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  • mrginandtonic
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    #36
    Originally posted by Jellymancan
    Who do you like R11 CD?
    Sorry Jellyman, just saw this. I don’t have the form for Churchill today.
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    • Jellymancan
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      #37
      Bombs away there today. Place is so damn tough. I struggle there.
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      • mrginandtonic
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        #38
        Originally posted by Jellymancan
        Bombs away there today. Place is so damn tough. I struggle there.
        Yeah, i usually Don’t play Churchill either except for Derby time. Are you playing GP tomorrow? I think there is a guarantee Pick 6 payout.
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        • Jellymancan
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          #39
          Originally posted by mrginandtonic
          Yeah, i usually Don’t play Churchill either except for Derby time. Are you playing GP tomorrow? I think there is a guarantee Pick 6 payout.
          Maybe. Going to start looking at SA and GP for tomorrow.
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          • mrginandtonic
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            #40
            Originally posted by mrginandtonic
            Yeah, i usually Don’t play Churchill either except for Derby time. Are you playing GP tomorrow? I think there is a guarantee Pick 6 payout.
            My mistake, no mandatory payout tomorrow.
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            • mrginandtonic
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              #41
              Originally posted by Jellymancan
              Maybe. Going to start looking at SA and GP for tomorrow.

              Nice, will be following. thanks in advance.
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              • mrginandtonic
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                #42
                A friend reminded me of this thread.. Gonna take a crack at this again. Can't seem to find a record of ROI so gonna start fresh. For simplicity, gonna use $2WP wagering.

                GP Race 1 7 1/2f turf for 2yr fillies

                10- Tequa (ML 8-1)
                12- Honorary Guest (12-1)


                10- Tequa switching to Ortiz, I will help, and MSW to ** should also help. She ran ok last time at 1 mile
                12- Honorary Guest, Paco sticking to her, she is out of Tapizar, but the damn is out Giant's Causeway, so should be able to handle turf. Trainer Kelly has very numbers on 2nd starts and turf sprints and 2yr olds.

                At these prices, I will take a shot.

                Risking $8.00
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                • BOA12
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                  A friend reminded me of this thread.. Gonna take a crack at this again. Can't seem to find a record of ROI so gonna start fresh. For simplicity, gonna use $2WP wagering.

                  GP Race 1 7 1/2f turf for 2yr fillies

                  10- Tequa (ML 8-1)
                  12- Honorary Guest (12-1)


                  10- Tequa switching to Ortiz, I will help, and MSW to ** should also help. She ran ok last time at 1 mile
                  12- Honorary Guest, Paco sticking to her, she is out of Tapizar, but the damn is out Giant's Causeway, so should be able to handle turf. Trainer Kelly has very numbers on 2nd starts and turf sprints and 2yr olds.

                  At these prices, I will take a shot.

                  Risking $8.00
                  BOL mr.
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                  • Easy-Rider 66
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                    #44
                    OK Mr. G&T. good to see you have revived this thread. Look forward to your insights. GL moving forward.
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                    • mrginandtonic
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                      A friend reminded me of this thread.. Gonna take a crack at this again. Can't seem to find a record of ROI so gonna start fresh. For simplicity, gonna use $2WP wagering.

                      GP Race 1 7 1/2f turf for 2yr fillies

                      10- Tequa (ML 8-1)
                      12- Honorary Guest (12-1)


                      10- Tequa switching to Ortiz, I will help, and MSW to ** should also help. She ran ok last time at 1 mile
                      12- Honorary Guest, Paco sticking to her, she is out of Tapizar, but the damn is out Giant's Causeway, so should be able to handle turf. Trainer Kelly has very numbers on 2nd starts and turf sprints and 2yr olds.

                      At these prices, I will take a shot.

                      Risking $8.00
                      No good, 12 had a chance in the stretch, just got out run...

                      Total risked: $8.00
                      Total return: $0.00
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                      • mrginandtonic
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by BOA12
                        BOL mr.

                        Thank you Sir, BOL to you too.
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                        • mrginandtonic
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66
                          OK Mr. G&T. good to see you have revived this thread. Look forward to your insights. GL moving forward.

                          Thanks EZ, will try to keep this thread going... GL to you too.
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                          • mrginandtonic
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                            No good, 12 had a chance in the stretch, just got out run...

                            Total risked: $8.00
                            Total return: $0.00
                            Gonna play DRF Race of the Day, SA Race 7, The Blue Norther Stake; 1 mile Turf for fillies.

                            The experts at DRF pick the 4 and 8 as their top pick. I personally don't like either horse. I don't see a lot of pace in this race. So I am gonna go with the 6- Pizzazz (ML 2-1) and long shot 7- Royal Blend (ML 20-1).

                            6- Pizzazz (ML 2-1)
                            7- Royal Blend (ML 20-1)

                            Risking $8.00
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                            • Easy-Rider 66
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                              #49
                              GL Mr. G&T. will Watch the race here
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                              • mrginandtonic
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                Gonna play DRF Race of the Day, SA Race 7, The Blue Norther Stake; 1 mile Turf for fillies.

                                The experts at DRF pick the 4 and 8 as their top pick. I personally don't like either horse. I don't see a lot of pace in this race. So I am gonna go with the 6- Pizzazz (ML 2-1) and long shot 7- Royal Blend (ML 20-1).

                                6- Pizzazz (ML 2-1)
                                7- Royal Blend (ML 20-1)

                                Risking $8.00
                                No good

                                Total risked: $16.00
                                Total return: $0.00


                                GP Race 11

                                $2WP 5- Spun Glass (ML 12-1)
                                $2WP 10- Miss Deplorable (ML 12-1)

                                Risking: $8.00

                                Happy New Year to all!
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                                • mrginandtonic
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                  No good

                                  Total risked: $16.00
                                  Total return: $0.00


                                  GP Race 11

                                  $2WP 5- Spun Glass (ML 12-1)
                                  $2WP 10- Miss Deplorable (ML 12-1)

                                  Risking: $8.00

                                  Happy New Year to all!
                                  Unbelievable; Irad Ortiz again (5 wins today)

                                  Total risked: $24.00
                                  Total return: $0.00
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                                  • mrginandtonic
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                                    #52
                                    KEE Race 9-

                                    MSW for fillies at 1 1/16 mile Turf, on paper, the 7- Black Sand is bred too and bottom for turf, her debut was down heavily, considering how she broke poorly, she ran fairly well. Making her 3yr old debut after 9 months off is probably the only concern. But Chad Brown is amazing with these types of layoff. Gets lasix for the first time, she has tactical speed, all angles are telling me the 7 should win easily. The question is who will complete the exacta. Most probably think the 3 (Wesley Ward firster) or the 4 (last race ran huge compared to this group). But I’m also gonna take a shot at the 10- Jawhara (ML 20-1), I love the sire Declaration of War, a sire that has done well with dirt and turf. she was previously trained by Linda Rice. Also gonna play the 1-My Sweet Story (ML 15-1), she is by Afleet Alex who I think a underrated turf sire. Trainer is an under the radar type, but Graham is a decent turf ride and with inside post, should take advantage.


                                    $10W 7- Black Sand (ML 9-5)
                                    $4WP 1,10 (just in case a long shot wins)
                                    $4Ex 7/1,3,4,10
                                    $2Ex 1,3,4,10/7

                                    Risking $50
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                                    • mrginandtonic
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                      KEE Race 9-

                                      MSW for fillies at 1 1/16 mile Turf, on paper, the 7- Black Sand is bred too and bottom for turf, her debut was down heavily, considering how she broke poorly, she ran fairly well. Making her 3yr old debut after 9 months off is probably the only concern. But Chad Brown is amazing with these types of layoff. Gets lasix for the first time, she has tactical speed, all angles are telling me the 7 should win easily. The question is who will complete the exacta. Most probably think the 3 (Wesley Ward firster) or the 4 (last race ran huge compared to this group). But I’m also gonna take a shot at the 10- Jawhara (ML 20-1), I love the sire Declaration of War, a sire that has done well with dirt and turf. she was previously trained by Linda Rice. Also gonna play the 1-My Sweet Story (ML 15-1), she is by Afleet Alex who I think a underrated turf sire. Trainer is an under the radar type, but Graham is a decent turf ride and with inside post, should take advantage.


                                      $10W 7- Black Sand (ML 9-5)
                                      $4WP 1,10 (just in case a long shot wins)
                                      $4Ex 7/1,3,4,10
                                      $2Ex 1,3,4,10/7

                                      Risking $50
                                      Disappointed in the 7; but then again...

                                      1- second @ 60-1; paid $74.80

                                      Total risked: $74.00
                                      Total return: $74.80
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                                      • mrginandtonic
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                                        #54
                                        GP Race 1

                                        1mile Turf for a bunch of cheap claimers...

                                        2-Kayseri (ML 15-1) looks like the pacesetter, if she is allowed to walk the dog, she might just take them all the way. Last was first start after 7 months layoff, should run better this time, at 13-1 now, will take a shot.

                                        9-Skye Snow (ML 3-1) should have a great trip stalking from the outside. Last two were closed at the same level (both times were placed). She is 4yr old and out of Lemon Drop Kid (one of my favorites) and has the most consistent Beyer numbers. Should win this.

                                        $10WP 9- Skye Snow (ML 3-1)
                                        $2WP 2- Kayseri (ML 15-1)
                                        $4Ex 9-2
                                        $2Ex 2-9

                                        risking $30
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                                        • mrginandtonic
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                          GP Race 1

                                          1mile Turf for a bunch of cheap claimers...

                                          2-Kayseri (ML 15-1) looks like the pacesetter, if she is allowed to walk the dog, she might just take them all the way. Last was first start after 7 months layoff, should run better this time, at 13-1 now, will take a shot.

                                          9-Skye Snow (ML 3-1) should have a great trip stalking from the outside. Last two were closed at the same level (both times were placed). She is 4yr old and out of Lemon Drop Kid (one of my favorites) and has the most consistent Beyer numbers. Should win this.

                                          $10WP 9- Skye Snow (ML 3-1) winner; paid $53.00
                                          $2WP 2- Kayseri (ML 15-1) no good; think she would have done better if she didn't have to pull up a bit because of the 7
                                          $4Ex 9-2 no good
                                          $2Ex 2-9 no good
                                          risking $30
                                          Total risked: $104.00
                                          Total return: $127.80
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                                          • mrginandtonic
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                                            #56
                                            KEE Race 6

                                            A field of 7 going 1 1/8 on the turf with a bunch of these are coming off of a layoff or a long layoff... ML favorite is the 1- Master Piece (ML 2-1) trained by Chad Brown, and the 2- Factor This (ML 3-1) trained by Brad Cox. Both have graded stakes wins on their resume. I like the 3- Jais's Solitude (ML 6-1) who is out of Afleet Alex (who as I said before is one that I think it's an underrated turf sire). His last race was an optional claiming race at 1 3/8 off of an 8 months layoff that was pretty good. He hugged the rail and got second. But his previous races were pretty good IMO. He lost to Zula Alpha by 3 lengths at 1 1/2, and 2 lengths to Admission Office at 1 1/2. I think 1 1/2 might be too far for him. He has tactical speed, and on paper, looks like there should be a good pace and he should sitting in midpack or even towards the back and a good run before the closer 4-Hay Dakota.

                                            $10WP 3- Jais's Solitude (ML 6-1)
                                            $2ExB 1,3,4
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                                            • mrginandtonic
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                              KEE Race 6

                                              A field of 7 going 1 1/8 on the turf with a bunch of these are coming off of a layoff or a long layoff... ML favorite is the 1- Master Piece (ML 2-1) trained by Chad Brown, and the 2- Factor This (ML 3-1) trained by Brad Cox. Both have graded stakes wins on their resume. I like the 3- Jais's Solitude (ML 6-1) who is out of Afleet Alex (who as I said before is one that I think it's an underrated turf sire). His last race was an optional claiming race at 1 3/8 off of an 8 months layoff that was pretty good. He hugged the rail and got second. But his previous races were pretty good IMO. He lost to Zula Alpha by 3 lengths at 1 1/2, and 2 lengths to Admission Office at 1 1/2. I think 1 1/2 might be too far for him. He has tactical speed, and on paper, looks like there should be a good pace and he should sitting in midpack or even towards the back and a good run before the closer 4-Hay Dakota.

                                              $10WP 3- Jais's Solitude (ML 6-1)
                                              $2ExB 1,3,4
                                              4 is scratched, playing the 7 instead

                                              My play is:


                                              $10WP 3- Jais's Solitude (ML 6-1)
                                              $2ExB 1,3,7
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                                              • mrginandtonic
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                                                #58
                                                KEE Race 8

                                                5 1/2f Turf Allowance, I think if 6-Senora Roma (ML 8-1) can display that speed like last time, she will be long gone, if she falters, the 8- Veruca (ML 8-1) should have the ideal trip sitting right outside of the 6 and pounce turning for home. Including a closer for 5- Zero to Sixty (ML 10-1) for the exacta box.

                                                $10WP 6,8
                                                $2ExB 5,6,8
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                                                • Jellymancan
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                                                  #59
                                                  Gl today MrGandT!
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                                                  • mrginandtonic
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Jellymancan
                                                    Gl today MrGandT!
                                                    Thanks Jellyman, GL to you too
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                                                    • BOA12
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                      KEE Race 8

                                                      5 1/2f Turf Allowance, I think if 6-Senora Roma (ML 8-1) can display that speed like last time, she will be long gone, if she falters, the 8- Veruca (ML 8-1) should have the ideal trip sitting right outside of the 6 and pounce turning for home. Including a closer for 5- Zero to Sixty (ML 10-1) for the exacta box.

                                                      $10WP 6,8
                                                      $2ExB 5,6,8
                                                      Had no play R8. Now I do. I don't trust anyone who doesn't drink. BOL mr g&t.
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                                                      • mrginandtonic
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by BOA12
                                                        Had no play R8. Now I do. I don't trust anyone who doesn't drink. BOL mr g&t.
                                                        Lol, sometimes too much drinking is my problem....
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                                                        • mrginandtonic
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                          4 is scratched, playing the 7 instead

                                                          My play is:


                                                          $10WP 3- Jais's Solitude (ML 6-1)
                                                          $2ExB 1,3,7
                                                          No good


                                                          Total risked: $136..00
                                                          Total return: $127.80
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                                                          • Jellymancan
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                            KEE Race 8

                                                            5 1/2f Turf Allowance, I think if 6-Senora Roma (ML 8-1) can display that speed like last time, she will be long gone, if she falters, the 8- Veruca (ML 8-1) should have the ideal trip sitting right outside of the 6 and pounce turning for home. Including a closer for 5- Zero to Sixty (ML 10-1) for the exacta box.

                                                            $10WP 6,8
                                                            $2ExB 5,6,8
                                                            This is a tough race. Good luck.
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                                                            • Jellymancan
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                                                              #65
                                                              #6 Just didn't have to the end. I liked the #1, ran well. No time to play today, thought I would. Also, I'd put that #9 in your stable, horrible start and great close.
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                                                              • mrginandtonic
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Jellymancan
                                                                #6 Just didn't have to the end. I liked the #1, ran well. No time to play today, thought I would. Also, I'd put that #9 in your stable, horrible start and great close.
                                                                Lost second by a nose.... disappointed in the 5 & 8. The 1&3 both just broke maiden, I lose every time, when I bet them they lose and when I don’t they win...
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                                                                • mrginandtonic
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by BOA12
                                                                  Had no play R8. Now I do. I don't trust anyone who doesn't drink. BOL mr g&t.
                                                                  Sorry didn’t work out
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                                                                  • mrginandtonic
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                                    KEE Race 8

                                                                    5 1/2f Turf Allowance, I think if 6-Senora Roma (ML 8-1) can display that speed like last time, she will be long gone, if she falters, the 8- Veruca (ML 8-1) should have the ideal trip sitting right outside of the 6 and pounce turning for home. Including a closer for 5- Zero to Sixty (ML 10-1) for the exacta box.

                                                                    $10WP 6,8
                                                                    $2ExB 5,6,8
                                                                    No good


                                                                    Total risked: $188.00
                                                                    Total return: $127.80
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                                                                    • Jellymancan
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                                                      Lost second by a nose.... disappointed in the 5 & 8. The 1&3 both just broke maiden, I lose every time, when I bet them they lose and when I don’t they win...
                                                                      Yeah. I love betting the ones that just break maiden, usually good value, especially if they go way up in class.
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                                                                      • mrginandtonic
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Gonna try this thread again



                                                                        CD Race 2

                                                                        $10WP 9- Sousa Summer
                                                                        $5Ex 9/2,3
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