PHOENIX RACEWAY (Xfinity/Cup)---

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  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 51806

    #1
    PHOENIX RACEWAY (Xfinity/Cup)---
    Alright guys we are on the last stop of the west coast swing this weekend when the cars arrive at PHOENIX RACEWAY where we will have the Xfinity series and the Cup series both in action. The trucks have this week off, but will return next weekend for Atlanta. The weekend kicks off with the meaningless practice/Qualifying session for the Xfinity cars on Saturday morning at 11:30am and will air on FS1. That is followed by the just as meaningless Cup practice/Qualifying session at 1:30pm also airing on FS1. The Xfinity race will be at 4pm also on FS1. The Cup race will end the weekend on Sunday afternoon at 3pm airing on the main FOX channel.


    Phoenix is 1 of my least fav racetracks, and when it comes to a race winner its gonna be tough sledding again this week. there are really only about 7-8 guys really really good here , but none of those guys have reeled off multiple wins the last few years and since it was reconfigured. But been a good start keeping our head above water so hopefully we can get lucky enough to make it to the ATL in good shape. F1 season also kicks off next week along with another Indy car race at Texas. GOOD LUCK this weekend fellas!!!!




  • kjack25
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-07-19
    • 707

    #2
    Hamlin +900
    Bell +2500
    Cindric +4000
    Briscoe +5500

    Penske was fast when they did a test at Phoenix with the new car so feel like I should add Blaney or Logano.
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    • avssakic
      SBR MVP
      • 12-12-07
      • 1795

      #3
      Byron +1400
      Harvick +1800

      Both are pretty consistent there and think those numbers are decent for them
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 51806

        #4
        im still looking over everything and deciding another thing or 2


        not gonna box myself in with many single winners pre race...trying to settle on just 1 guy near the top early, really only liking 1 or 2 long shots @ 20 or worse that wouldn't need a miracle to win here imo. this is a very tough oval betting wise.


        obv gonna parlay Gibbs with something just not sure what yet...will post when im finished up
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60668

          #5
          BetMGM Sportsbook Insights: NASCAR Ruoff Mortgage 500

          Line Movement:

          • Kyle Larson opened +350, now +400
          • Denny Hamlin opened +900, now +800
          • Ryan Blaney opened +1200, now +1000

          Highest Ticket%

          • Christopher Bell 9.3%
          • Kyle Larson 7.4%
          • Chase Elliott 6.2%

          Highest Handle%

          • Joey Logano 15.2%
          • Kyle Larson 15.0%
          • Christopher Bell 8.1%

          Biggest Liabilities

          • Christopher Bell
          • Aric Almirola
          • Joey Logano



          Driver Opening Odds Current Odds Ticket% Handle%
          Christopher Bell 3300 2500 9.3% 8.1%
          Kyle Larson 350 400 7.4% 15.0%
          Chase Elliott 800 800 6.2% 5.8%
          Kevin Harvick 1800 1800 5.9% 4.7%
          Martin Truex Jr. 700 700 5.8% 3.8%
          Joey Logano 900 900 5.5% 15.2%
          Kyle Busch 700 700 5.3% 4.7%
          Aric Almirola 4000 2500 5.2% 4.5%
          Denny Hamlin 900 800 4.9% 4.9%
          Brad Keselowski 3300 4000 4.5% 4.4%
          Austin Cindric 4000 4000 4.4% 2.6%
          Tyler Reddick 2500 2500 4.1% 7.5%
          Alex Bowman 2000 2000 4.0% 4.8%
          Ryan Blaney 1200 1000 3.2% 3.5%
          William Byron 1400 1400 2.5% 3.2%
          Ross Chastain 4000 4000 2.5% 0.7%
          Bubba Wallace 15000 12500 2.2% 1.6%
          Kurt Busch 4000 4000 2.1% 0.6%
          Erik Jones 6600 6600 2.1% 0.9%
          Chase Briscoe 5000 6600 1.5% 0.5%
          Cole Custer 10000 10000 1.5% 0.4%
          Harrison Burton 20000 25000 1.5% 0.5%
          Ty Dillon 40000 40000 1.2% 0.8%
          A.J. Allmendinger 8000 8000 1.1% 0.2%
          Daniel Suarez 8000 8000 1.1% 0.3%
          Justin Haley 30000 30000 1.0% 0.2%
          Ricky Stenhouse Jr 6600 8000 0.8% 0.1%
          Austin Dillon 6600 6600 0.7% 0.2%
          Chris Buescher 15000 15000 0.7% 0.3%
          Corey Lajoie 75000 75000 0.7% 0.1%
          Todd Gilliland 75000 100000 0.4% 0.0%
          Michael McDowell 50000 50000 0.3% 0.0%
          Cody Ware 150000 150000 0.3% 0.0%
          B.J. McLeod 200000 200000 0.3% 0.0%
          Josh Bilicki 200000 200000 0.0% 0.0%
          Garrett Smithley 200000 200000 0.0% 0.0%
          Sportsbook Data Insights by BetMGM
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          • 5mike5
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-21-11
            • 51806

            #6
            Thinking about just playing Gibbs single bullet for Xfinity. Honestly hate the odds on Almost ever other driver. maybe Creed at 3000 as 1 longshot worth a stab? Obv will play a h2h parlay if I like a few of them. or maybe the odds will move around after the session tomorrow mormning
            Last edited by 5mike5; 03-10-22, 12:14 PM.
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            • dapperandy
              SBR High Roller
              • 12-05-11
              • 180

              #7
              Any thoughts on Arca Series West race they have up on Bovada? Idk much about this series but…

              Jake Drew at 150-1 seems like an insane number

              Austin Herzog 75-1 🤷🏿*♂️
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              • unlearn
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 03-22-14
                • 8980

                #8
                Originally posted by dapperandy
                Any thoughts on Arca Series West race they have up on Bovada? Idk much about this series but…

                Jake Drew at 150-1 seems like an insane number

                Austin Herzog 75-1 🤷🏿*♂️
                I took Sammy Smith at +1100.
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                • mink
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 08-07-18
                  • 445

                  #9
                  Sammy Smith is the play.

                  Sammy is in the KBM car. That team was purchased from Gibbs. It’s the team/car that Ty Gibbs dominated Phoenix with/in last season.

                  Sammie won at New Smyrna earlier this season leading 167 of the 200 laps. Taylor Gray finished second. Taylor Gray is out at Phoenix after the tragic wreck on the way to the track.
                  Last edited by mink; 03-11-22, 10:18 AM.
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                  • dapperandy
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-05-11
                    • 180

                    #10
                    Originally posted by unlearn
                    I took Sammy Smith at +1100.
                    Shit, wish I coulda got those odds now 😅
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                    • unlearn
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-22-14
                      • 8980

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dapperandy
                      Shit, wish I coulda got those odds now 😅
                      And I wish I would have bet more. Doesnt take much to move these ARCA lines at bovada
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                      • dapperandy
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 12-05-11
                        • 180

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mink
                        Sammy Smith is the play.

                        Sammy is in the KBM car. That team was purchased from Gibbs. It’s the team/car that Ty Gibbs dominated Phoenix with/in last season.

                        Sammie won at New Smyrna earlier this season leading 167 of the 200 laps. Taylor Gray finished second. Taylor Gray is out at Phoenix after the tragic wreck on the way to the track.
                        Thank you so much for this insight, I shouldn’t have missed even the 7-1
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                        • mink
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 08-07-18
                          • 445

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dapperandy
                          Thank you so much for this insight, I shouldn’t have missed even the 7-1
                          Bovada reads this board.
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                          • mink
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 08-07-18
                            • 445

                            #14
                            Taylor Gray made it to the track. Looks to be pretty fast. Just a heads up.
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                            • mcaulay777
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-13-10
                              • 1765

                              #15
                              I totally agree on the New Phoenix track. I Absolutely hate this new layout. I went to Nascar in Phoenix every Year from 95-04 when i lived there it had huge crowds the dogleg where drivers came close to that lip,the overhanging bridge on turn 4 great crowds partying on the hill did that one year 97 when Dale Jarrett won coming from 2 laps down,It is just so weird not seeing that great old grandstand. But i still love the race,I went a little chalky with Chase Elliott and Joey Logano, My longshot pick this week a little Pizza Money on Ty Dillion.
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                              • mink
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-07-18
                                • 445

                                #16
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                                • 5mike5
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-21-11
                                  • 51806

                                  #17
                                  for the 1st time in prob over a year i tossed $ on Harvick to win...ill kick myself later obv...I just couldn't pass on +2000 for him here
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                                  • 5mike5
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-21-11
                                    • 51806

                                    #18
                                    Lets go Sammie Smith!
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                                    • dapperandy
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 12-05-11
                                      • 180

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by 5mike5
                                      Lets go Sammie Smith!
                                      👏 👏
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                                      • racing_is_fun
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-26-20
                                        • 239

                                        #20
                                        So Bovada grades win markets as a loss when the winner was not even listed. Good times.
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                                        • unlearn
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-22-14
                                          • 8980

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by racing_is_fun
                                          So Bovada grades win markets as a loss when the winner was not even listed. Good times.
                                          Yeah that's some bs. Gray was only listed in the live market. All pre race bets should have been voided since there was no field and Gray wasnt listed. I've been on live chat trying to explain this to idiot CS rep for an hour now. Finally just gave up and sent an email. We shall see
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                                          • infotimbo
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 10-24-18
                                            • 837

                                            #22
                                            I wouldn't expect too much, unless there's sth in the rules about it. And personally I don't know a single bookie who does, tbh. I happens more often in other sports, and they all keep the money
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 60668

                                              #23
                                              Someone ask them.

                                              Might help knowing the precedent used here for the future, even if they dont void.
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                                              • 5mike5
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-21-11
                                                • 51806

                                                #24
                                                Haven't played anything all week so I'm itching. Ready to get the race weekend started Still just Gibbs (+500) for the Xfinity win, and a underdog h2h parlay. Unless odd change or something not liking much else for it but obv will look over it after session.
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                                                • infotimbo
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-24-18
                                                  • 837

                                                  #25
                                                  yeah, I also struggle a bit to come to much of a conclusion so far. The JGR cars had superiour long-run speed last week and also last fall in Phoenix, but not sure it's worth too much at the moment, given the enormous amounts of yellows we tend to get.

                                                  Blaney looks a tad too high for me, but not sure yet. Chastain as well, I guess, just going by his performance the past two weeks

                                                  edit: took Chastain @50 for a start
                                                  Last edited by infotimbo; 03-12-22, 10:04 AM.
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                                                  • kjack25
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 07-07-19
                                                    • 707

                                                    #26
                                                    Larson looks fast in practice. Had the fastest average over 15, 20 and 30 laps. Blaney 2nd in all 3. Hopefully he’s still +1200 when they repost the lines.
                                                    Bayne looked fast in Xfinity, just behind Gragson. +800 looks like good value.
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                                                    • 5mike5
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                      • 51806

                                                      #27
                                                      I wouldn't overreact to morning practice. Bayne owns a coffee shop down the street I just can't with him. When doesn't 5 look fast prob gonna be a repeat of last year with him by the early looks...May repost at 250. Lol. Liked 12 too but damn that kid just can't finish races when the pay window opens
                                                      Last edited by 5mike5; 03-12-22, 03:12 PM.
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                                                      • 5mike5
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                        • 51806

                                                        #28
                                                        Think I'm just sticking to the early Gibbs plays for the Win.


                                                        didnt like many h2hs so just went with 3 underdogs


                                                        Doubt I would Live bet either. Just gonna risk couple hundo
                                                        Last edited by 5mike5; 03-12-22, 03:18 PM.
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                                                        • 5mike5
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-21-11
                                                          • 51806

                                                          #29
                                                          Mayer>Bayne (+130)
                                                          Dinger> Gragson (+120)
                                                          Creed>Hill (-105)
                                                          (+883)


                                                          Gonna need a crazy ending for this to have a shot
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                                                          • boardsnow24
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 03-06-21
                                                            • 452

                                                            #30
                                                            Gibbs +500
                                                            Bayne +700
                                                            B. Jones +1300

                                                            Bayne and Jones just to cover bets.
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                                                            • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-30-08
                                                              • 81454

                                                              #31
                                                              Let’s roll, boys!

                                                              0.5u Gragson +425
                                                              0.2u Mayer +2500
                                                              0.2u Creed +2200
                                                              0.1u Siege +4000
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                                                              • 5mike5
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-21-11
                                                                • 51806

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                Let’s roll, boys!

                                                                0.5u Gragson +425
                                                                0.2u Mayer +2500
                                                                0.2u Creed +2200
                                                                0.1u Siege +4000
                                                                DDD !

                                                                GL buddy
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                                                                • boardsnow24
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 03-06-21
                                                                  • 452

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Triple D! Good luck today! Any UFC bets tonight?
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                                                                  • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 11-30-08
                                                                    • 81454

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by boardsnow24
                                                                    Triple D! Good luck today! Any UFC bets tonight?
                                                                    Yesir!

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                                                                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 11-30-08
                                                                      • 81454

                                                                      #35
                                                                      First flight that I have money on is actually starting right now (Cannetti).
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