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  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 60671

    #106
    I think Mike gets paid for both Denny win and Suarez top 3

    I think Diggity gets paid for Elliott

    I got paid for Hamlin live bet at Bet365, but they then reversed it and left my account balance negative. And now that negative balance has gone but Hamlin bet still says loss.



    So far it sounds like we will all be winners?
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 51806

      #107
      HAMLIN (+600)---WINNER

      Suarez Top 3 (+600)--WINNER


      Thanks DKs! Huge!!!!! cant believe they paid off BOTH ways...talk about awesome rule


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      • mink
        SBR Sharp
        • 08-07-18
        • 445

        #108
        Meanwhile, Blowvada isn't going to make it right the one time that they have EVER had to make it right in Cup. Figures.
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        • 5mike5
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-21-11
          • 51806

          #109
          Crazy that any book wouldn't payout on the #9


          NASCAR DQ'ing cars and but letting them keep the official race win in years past caused this mess
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          • mink
            SBR Sharp
            • 08-07-18
            • 445

            #110
            Here's Blowvada's Rules:

            1.a. The official NASCAR result at the end of the race will be used for settlement purposes. This includes any race which is halted prematurely for any reason. Any subsequent adjustments to finishing positions will not count.
            b. Any drivers who do not qualify for the race will be deemed no action.
            c. Races must run within seven days of the originally scheduled start time for wagers to have action.
            d. ‘The Field’ includes any driver not listed in the betting.
            The problem is that the results are not official at the end of the race. The results are only official when tech is completed. So, their language is a bit confusing at best. This is a no-brainer. They should be paying on the No. 9.
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            • Optional
              Administrator
              • 06-10-10
              • 60671

              #111
              Originally posted by mink
              Here's Blowvada's Rules:



              The problem is that the results are not official at the end of the race. The results are only official when tech is completed. So, their language is a bit confusing at best. This is a no-brainer. They should be paying on the No. 9.
              Not really a problem. More like a feature.

              Having books that grade both ways give us options to win both ways.




              @Digitty is your Elliott bet at Bookmaker?

              If so, and its not graded a winner yet, please send me your account number as I am handling it right now.
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              • mink
                SBR Sharp
                • 08-07-18
                • 445

                #112
                Originally posted by Optional
                Not really a problem. More like a feature.

                Having books that grade both ways give us options to win both ways.




                @Digitty is your Elliott bet at Bookmaker?

                If so, and its not graded a winner yet, please send me your account number as I am handling it right now.
                Are you suggesting you agree with Bovada not paying out on Chase Elliot?
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 60671

                  #113
                  Originally posted by mink

                  Are you suggesting you agree with Bovada not paying out on Chase Elliot?
                  Yes, I agree with them following their published rules 100%.

                  We have been through this and the difference in rules between Bovada and Betonline a few times since post inspection was required before official results starting in 2019 I think.


                  When the guy most people bet crosses the line first, people have popped up saying how ridiculous it is that Betonline dont honor the across the line winner. And say Bovada has the rule right.
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                  • mink
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 08-07-18
                    • 445

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Optional
                    Yes, I agree with them following their published rules 100%.

                    We have been through this and the difference in rules between Bovada and Betonline a few times since post inspection was required before official results starting in 2019 I think.


                    When the guy most people bet crosses the line first, people have popped up saying how ridiculous it is that Betonline dont honor the across the line winner. And say Bovada has the rule right.
                    Well, there isn't an "official" result at the end of the race that doesn't include post-race inspection. If they'd like to change their rule to "as they cross the line" then so be it, but the results are not "official" until post-race inspection.
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 60671

                      #115
                      Originally posted by mink

                      Well, there isn't an "official" result at the end of the race that doesn't include post-race inspection. If they'd like to change their rule to "as they cross the line" then so be it, but the results are not "official" until post-race inspection.
                      I guess it can be read ambiguously, but what they are saying is what the nascar leaderboard says at the checkers.

                      They have explained that in the past and since then have shown that they have graded this way when DQs have come up.
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                      • mink
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 08-07-18
                        • 445

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        I guess it can be read ambiguously, but what they are saying is what the nascar leaderboard says at the checkers.

                        They have explained that in the past and since then have shown that they have graded this way when DQs have come up.
                        Are you sure, Opti? They changed this rule for this season. They previously paid both the winner at the line and the winner following post-race inspection much like DFS does now. You're making it sound like this is some long standing rule for Bovada, but it isn't.
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 60671

                          #117
                          Originally posted by mink

                          Are you sure, Opti? They changed this rule for this season. They previously paid both the winner at the line and the winner following post-race inspection much like DFS does now. You're making it sound like this is some long standing rule for Bovada, but it isn't.
                          I have not spoken to Bovada this season about it.

                          But Unlearn has been affected by this rule a few times.

                          He can explain how and when. I think you will find he knows how they grade and likes it more than half the time.



                          Just FYI, all these books grade the same way as Bovada;


                          FanDuel
                          Kambi (Barstool, BetRivers)
                          PointsBet
                          BetMGM
                          Bally Bet


                          These books only grade on Official Post Inspection results;

                          Circa
                          Caesars
                          WynnBET


                          and as we know Draftkings pay both ways.
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                          • boardsnow24
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 03-06-21
                            • 452

                            #118
                            I just got paid for Elliott +700!!!! That makes me a winner for the weekend!
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                            • 5mike5
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-21-11
                              • 51806

                              #119
                              Will get the Indy race week thread up later today or in the morning when finished up with everything

                              Back to some road racing this weekend Another stacked weekend for us
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                              • infotimbo
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 10-24-18
                                • 837

                                #120
                                Daniil Kvyat, who obviously is a very skilled road racer. will race the #26 for Team Hezeberg in Indy. Not sure that car is any good, though.

                                Oddly enough, it's a Toyota btw, while their #27 is a Ford.
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