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  • capone8585
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    • 09-27-10
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    #1
    Do players know the spread?
    Do you think players know the spread of the game? If I were a player I would want to know...
  • 44 Mag
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    • 10-14-13
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    #2
    Originally posted by capone8585
    Do you think players know the spread of the game? If I were a player I would want to know...
    Why would they care???
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    • riffraff24
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      • 04-20-11
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      #3
      Of course they do.
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      • Regul8er
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        • 11-06-07
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        #4
        hahaha.......riffs, why would they know the spread? So they can throw a few plays to win his buddy $1,000, lol. We do realize how much these players make, right? You think they would jeopardize that to make a buddy or two a grand......think again.
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        • thunderous
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          • 06-05-12
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          #5
          Originally posted by Regul8er
          hahaha.......riffs, why would they know the spread? So they can throw a few plays to win his buddy $1,000, lol. We do realize how much these players make, right? You think they would jeopardize that to make a buddy or two a grand......think again.
          What does knowing the spread and betting a game gotta do with each other?

          I am sure they know the spread unless they are banned from all sports websites, social media, interaction with friends etc.

          They show the damn spread on the espn! My 11 year old son asked me what does "line" mean when he was checking out the mlb scorecard.
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          • RollinDo
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            • 09-04-13
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            #6
            No, there is no way that players know the spread before the game. The media is not broad enough or plenty enough for players to get their hands on that data. It is exclusive to the general betting public ONLY!
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            • blstrick5
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 11-12-13
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              #7
              I'm sure some players look at it but most don't care and don't pay attention to it.
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              • RavensFan2k3
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                • 08-18-12
                • 17378

                #8
                Originally posted by RollinDo
                No, there is no way that players know the spread before the game. The media is not broad enough or plenty enough for players to get their hands on that data. It is exclusive to the general betting public ONLY!
                Exacty...what a fuckin stupid question lol
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                • capone8585
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 09-27-10
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                  #9
                  Probably for much higher profile games such as NBA Finals and Super Bowl. They have to know the spreads.
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                  • dmncnlou
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                    • 02-17-11
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                    #10
                    Of course they know. Coaches know as well.
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                    • RavensFan2k3
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                      • 08-18-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by capone8585
                      Probably for much higher profile games such as NBA Finals and Super Bowl. They have to know the spreads.
                      The same way you look up spreads, why cant a player do the same? Im not understanding. Do you think players are alienated from the rest of the world?
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                      • jtoler
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                        • 12-17-13
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                        #12
                        Lol YES most if not all know the spread, especially during the playoffs, if not but for to see how the "experts" feel the game will go.
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                        • Regul8er
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                          #13
                          Cmon guys......this is ridiculous. Gamblers always know the spread, we get that. But the non-gambling hardcore fan doesn't know the spread, nor does he care. With that said, why does a pro give two sh!ts about a spread. Even if it scrolls across a sports channel, pro athletes aren't inclined to look at the numbers. Even if they saw it, it's probably escaped their minds 10 seconds later. The world doesn't revolve around this gentlemen! Gambling dollars is small, small, tiny little potatoes in comparison to all the other revenues associated with pro American sports leagues.
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                          • jtoler
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                            • 12-17-13
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Regul8er
                            Cmon guys......this is ridiculous. Gamblers always know the spread, we get that. But the non-gambling hardcore fan doesn't know the spread, nor does he care. With that said, why does a pro give two sh!ts about a spread. Even if it scrolls across a sports channel, pro athletes aren't inclined to look at the numbers. Even if they saw it, it's probably escaped their minds 10 seconds later. The world doesn't revolve around this gentlemen! Gambling dollars is small, small, tiny little potatoes in comparison to all the other revenues associated with pro American sports leagues.
                            Wouldnt you think they at least hear about it, Ive heard interviewers in questioning mention how they are favored and by how much when asking them questions.
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                            • riffraff24
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                              • 04-20-11
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Regul8er
                              hahaha.......riffs, why would they know the spread? So they can throw a few plays to win his buddy $1,000, lol. We do realize how much these players make, right? You think they would jeopardize that to make a buddy or two a grand......think again.
                              Dude every sports app on my phone shows spreads. Even Yahoos. These guys are on planes and busses all the time, you dont think they peak at the spreads? Come on.

                              Knowing the spread doesnt mean they gamble on it.
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                              • Menses
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                                • 03-15-13
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by RollinDo
                                No, there is no way that players know the spread before the game. The media is not broad enough or plenty enough for players to get their hands on that data. It is exclusive to the general betting public ONLY!
                                LOL...Nonsense...there are always a couple of players who "know" the spread...just ask Rothlesburger...the announcers know it...and at least one of the coaches know...whether is the cordinators in the NFL or the assistants in the NBA...in the NFL and the NBA it is very blatant but more so in the regular season....
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                                • RavensFan2k3
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                                  • 08-18-12
                                  • 17378

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by riffraff24
                                  Dude every sports app on my phone shows spreads. Even Yahoos. These guys are on planes and busses all the time, you dont think they peak at the spreads? Come on.

                                  Knowing the spread doesnt mean they gamble on it.
                                  Exactly...just because they may know it or have seen it doesnt mean they play based off of it.
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                                  • capone8585
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                                    • 09-27-10
                                    • 972

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                    Exactly...just because they may know it or have seen it doesnt mean they play based off of it.
                                    I get that. But if I were a player and I knew the team was favorites by 7 points I would try to only win by 6 or less. Just to mess with things I would turn the ball over or brick shots
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                                    • RavensFan2k3
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                                      • 08-18-12
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by capone8585
                                      I get that. But if I were a player and I knew the team was favorites by 7 points I would try to only win by 6 or less. Just to mess with things I would turn the ball over or brick shots
                                      well I guess thats why you arent a pro lol. As much as sports may be rigged, these players do want to win and arent about to penetrate around to mess with things ans jeoperdize that, you kno?
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                                      • thunderous
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                                        • 06-05-12
                                        • 1870

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by capone8585
                                        I get that. But if I were a player and I knew the team was favorites by 7 points I would try to only win by 6 or less. Just to mess with things I would turn the ball over or brick shots
                                        I would do the opposite....why not help the guys who back you??
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                                        • RavensFan2k3
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                                          • 08-18-12
                                          • 17378

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by thunderous
                                          I would do the opposite....why not help the guys who back you??
                                          Your avi...who is that
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                                          • Eddy Munny
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                                            • 08-13-13
                                            • 15739

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Regul8er
                                            Cmon guys......this is ridiculous. Gamblers always know the spread, we get that. But the non-gambling hardcore fan doesn't know the spread, nor does he care. With that said, why does a pro give two sh!ts about a spread. Even if it scrolls across a sports channel, pro athletes aren't inclined to look at the numbers. Even if they saw it, it's probably escaped their minds 10 seconds later. The world doesn't revolve around this gentlemen! Gambling dollars is small, small, tiny little potatoes in comparison to all the other revenues associated with pro American sports leagues.
                                            This guy is incredibly naïve.

                                            Originally posted by Menses

                                            LOL...Nonsense...there are always a couple of players who "know" the spread...just ask Rothlesburger...the announcers know it...and at least one of the coaches know...whether is the cordinators in the NFL or the assistants in the NBA...in the NFL and the NBA it is very blatant but more so in the regular season....
                                            This guy can't discern sarcasm.

                                            Originally posted by capone8585

                                            I get that. But if I were a player and I knew the team was favorites by 7 points I would try to only win by 6 or less. Just to mess with things I would turn the ball over or brick shots
                                            This guy is mentally challenged.
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                                            • Time is Money
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                                              • 12-03-07
                                              • 2255

                                              #23
                                              of course

                                              do they play to cover it? maybe some do, most don't care.

                                              do they see and take notice if they're a home dog etc? yeah, for sure. might spark a little extra out of them.



                                              do the REFS know the spread is the true question.

                                              i think we all know the answer to that one...
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                                              • farmhouse1
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                                                • 02-14-14
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                                                #24
                                                Why would these millionaires give 2 shits about a spread!???
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                                                • El Sol
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                                                  • 05-17-08
                                                  • 876

                                                  #25
                                                  Ive heard pot smokers and alcholics claim that everyone smokes and drinks, so I dont think its much of a stretch to say that complusive gamblers think that everyone gambles or at the very least is interested in it. I would say that most people dont care about have no interest in the gambling world, maybe some players care, but with the money they already make, I would hardly think that they are thinking about lines and odds when theyre trying to win a game, they are probably more interested in just playing well. How much money could they really make by fixing a game? I juet wouldnt think it be worth the trouble
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                                                  • jhack704
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                                                    • 06-04-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    some probably know and some don't, they know if they are underdogs even if the spread is a few points. even if they do know they don't give a fuk although the refs might have something to say about that
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                                                    • RavensFan2k3
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                                                      • 08-18-12
                                                      • 17378

                                                      #27
                                                      Noone is saying the players care or gamble! We're saying that at somepoint before a game, maybe not every game, they are probably exposed to the spread of a game. Through convo, or just curiousity. Damn, how are people so simple?
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                                                      • thfootball
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                                                        • 01-16-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Professionals players gamble like anyone else, some go broke from it.
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                                                        • cryptocap
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                                                          • 03-04-14
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                                                          #29
                                                          i know professional soccer players are caught all the time wagering on matches...and i bet you many of these athletes bet on other sports aka the SUPER BOWL..etc
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                                                          • Eddy Munny
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                                                            • 08-13-13
                                                            • 15739

                                                            #30
                                                            The players know. Maybe the 12th man on the bench who never sheds his warm-ups doesn't know, but for the most part, the players are aware of the spread. Basketball is a little different because during the course of an 82 game regular season grind, players are probably indifferent to a particular number on some random low profile game. If the Cavs are playing a road game @ Indiana for instance, they intuitively know they're a heavy underdog so the exact line is probably of little to no interest.

                                                            But that being said, it's also hard to escape the fact that Vegas sets a line for each game. The posted line is, in effect, a report card on your team. It's a reflection of how the public perceives your team. So I'm sure player's check it just as any stockholder checks the Wall Street numbers. It doesn't mean that there's any shady manipulation of the games taking place. It's just curiosity, human nature.....the same way you or I might check the daily weather forecast. "Oh, it's only supposed to reach a high of 47 today. Damn, when's spring gonna get here?"

                                                            You also have to consider the fact that these players probably have family members and/or friends who do in fact bet on sports, and reach out to their "insider" for any tips on a particular game, or call them up to lament the fact that they lost $$$. "Yo Dwayne, wassup dawg? Dafuq you guys do last night man? I lost some mad loot. How you only gonna beat the Jazz by 4 points? C'mon man. The line was 10. That's a damn shame. Naw, I'm just fvkking wit ya, it's all good." That type of thing. Don't act like these players live in a bubble, cut off from the social norms of sports culture.

                                                            With the NFL, there's absolutely no doubt that the players are aware of the line. You generally have 6 days in between games, so it's pretty much inescapable. The line in football (both college and pro) often serves as a motivating factor for the underdog which often results in closer than expected outcomes, or outright upsets. It also can be a detriment to heavily favored teams, leading to complacency and an unfocused week of practice.

                                                            So all things considered, the answer to the question is a resounding yes. You have to remember that the line is ubiquitous nowadays. It's not just limited to gambling specific articles or websites. A player reading a preview on CBSsports.com is going to see the current line posted on the page. Football articles in the paper routinely mention the point spread as an indicator of how the experts view the game. Even if a player is oblivious to all information until he gets to the arena, a teammate probably casually mentions it in the locker-room.

                                                            The players know. It doesn't always mean that it's somehow consequential to how the game unfolds, but they do know.
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                                                            • farmhouse1
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                                                              • 02-14-14
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                                                              #31
                                                              Well don't you think that it is common sense to assume that?
                                                              Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                                              Noone is saying the players care or gamble! We're saying that at somepoint before a game, maybe not every game, they are probably exposed to the spread of a game. Through convo, or just curiousity. Damn, how are people so simple?
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                                                              • Regul8er
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                                                                • 11-06-07
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Eddy Munny
                                                                The players know. Maybe the 12th man on the bench who never sheds his warm-ups doesn't know, but for the most part, the players are aware of the spread. Basketball is a little different because during the course of an 82 game regular season grind, players are probably indifferent to a particular number on some random low profile game. If the Cavs are playing a road game @ Indiana for instance, they intuitively know they're a heavy underdog so the exact line is probably of little to no interest.

                                                                But that being said, it's also hard to escape the fact that Vegas sets a line for each game. The posted line is, in effect, a report card on your team. It's a reflection of how the public perceives your team. So I'm sure player's check it just as any stockholder checks the Wall Street numbers. It doesn't mean that there's any shady manipulation of the games taking place. It's just curiosity, human nature.....the same way you or I might check the daily weather forecast. "Oh, it's only supposed to reach a high of 47 today. Damn, when's spring gonna get here?"

                                                                You also have to consider the fact that these players probably have family members and/or friends who do in fact bet on sports, and reach out to their "insider" for any tips on a particular game, or call them up to lament the fact that they lost $$$. "Yo Dwayne, wassup dawg? Dafuq you guys do last night man? I lost some mad loot. How you only gonna beat the Jazz by 4 points? C'mon man. The line was 10. That's a damn shame. Naw, I'm just fvkking wit ya, it's all good." That type of thing. Don't act like these players live in a bubble, cut off from the social norms of sports culture.

                                                                With the NFL, there's absolutely no doubt that the players are aware of the line. You generally have 6 days in between games, so it's pretty much inescapable. The line in football (both college and pro) often serves as a motivating factor for the underdog which often results in closer than expected outcomes, or outright upsets. It also can be a detriment to heavily favored teams, leading to complacency and an unfocused week of practice.

                                                                So all things considered, the answer to the question is a resounding yes. You have to remember that the line is ubiquitous nowadays. It's not just limited to gambling specific articles or websites. A player reading a preview on CBSsports.com is going to see the current line posted on the page. Football articles in the paper routinely mention the point spread as an indicator of how the experts view the game. Even if a player is oblivious to all information until he gets to the arena, a teammate probably casually mentions it in the locker-room.

                                                                The players know. It doesn't always mean that it's somehow consequential to how the game unfolds, but they do know.
                                                                UNREAL........give it a rest. I have MANY buddies who are HARDCORE sports fans, and they would have no clue of what the spread would be for a given game. And they frequent sports apps, articles, radio, etc. Since were gamblers, we subconsciously know......but those who don't gamble? They have no interest in knowing. Sure, someone may point it out from time to time.....but that's not the debate.
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                                                                • Eddy Munny
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                                                                  • 08-13-13
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                                  UNREAL........give it a rest. I have MANY buddies who are HARDCORE sports fans, and they would have no clue of what the spread would be for a given game. And they frequent sports apps, articles, radio, etc. Since were gamblers, we subconsciously know......but those who don't gamble? They have no interest in knowing. Sure, someone may point it out from time to time.....but that's not the debate.
                                                                  The question wasn't do sports fans know the spread you knucklehead, but do the players? Fans have plenty other of things to occupy their minds besides sports. Players, on the other hand, are literally living it. They eat, sleep, and practice basketball. They are pulling huge paychecks to do just one thing and do it well. Their head's are immersed in it, far more so than even the hardest core fan. You are unbelievably naïve to think otherwise.

                                                                  Besides that, a lot of NBA players probably wager on other sports such as football, baseball, boxing etc. So the point spread becomes just a part of their collective consciousness. I'm not saying they dwell on it constantly or even give it much thought generally, but they are aware of it. Like I said, it's more of a stock report to them, or a conversational topic on the team flight. I'm sure there's a few games where Joe Benchwarmer gets to the arena on the road off a B2B, having spent most of the day sleeping at the hotel, and couldn't tell you the exact line, but by and large they know, especially for high profile matchups.

                                                                  I don't why you insist this isn't the case. Nobody is saying they are betting on their own games, or playing to the number. They probably don't care once the game tips off, but it doesn't change the fact that they are aware of it somehow or other. I mean the butcher at the grocery store could probably tell you how much the oysters are, even if he personally doesn't like seafood.
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