For all the morons who think NBA is rigged

**Jikos** · 06-13-14, 07:18 PM

Ever heard of Tim Donaghy?

**dmncnlou** · 06-13-14, 07:23 PM

Shit is rigged u dumb muhfucka. All the money was on the Heat. Mayweather lost 2.5.

**KVB** · 06-13-14, 07:36 PM

So those who thought it was "rigged" were on the Heat, convincingly. And those who didn't think it was rigged along with fans with no opinion were also on the Heat as Miami and Lebron had their backs against the wall at home...

The Heat got destroyed.

This is your evidence that it is not "rigged?"

**labones00** · 06-13-14, 07:57 PM

Jikos and company...
just quit while your behind, admit you were wrong and lost your bankroll. It's ok to be shitty at gambling, most people on here are

**upscope** · 06-13-14, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by dmncnlou

Shit is rigged u dumb muhfucka. All the money was on the Heat. Mayweather lost 2.5.

Originally posted by KVB

So those who thought it was "rigged" were on the Heat, convincingly. And those who didn't think it was rigged along with fans with no opinion were also on the Heat as Miami and Lebron had their backs against the wall at home...

The Heat got destroyed.

This is your evidence that it is not "rigged?"

No, the point is if the league was rigged then it was vital that the Heat win game 4 in order to stay in the series & have it go 7 games for maximum league profit.
That's the reason why the people that claim the NBA is rigged will never get it. They have every side covered for "proof" that it's rigged. If the Heat win game 4 then the conspiracy theorist claim it was rigged to go 7. If the Spurs win game 4 then those same conspiracy theorist claim that all the $$ was on the Heat & therefore rigged. There's always an out for the conspiracy theorist to hang themselves & further look like the clueless simpletons that they are.

**Kermit** · 06-13-14, 08:44 PM

I find it funny when people talk about quarters and halves being rigged. And even player props.

**brainfreeze** · 06-13-14, 09:36 PM

Quit ya bytchin...

**KVB** · 06-13-14, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by upscope

No, the point is if the league was rigged then it was vital that the Heat win game 4 in order to stay in the series & have it go 7 games for maximum league profit.
That's the reason why the people that claim the NBA is rigged will never get it. They have every side covered for "proof" that it's rigged. If the Heat win game 4 then the conspiracy theorist claim it was rigged to go 7. If the Spurs win game 4 then those same conspiracy theorist claim that all the $$ was on the Heat & therefore rigged. There's always an out for the conspiracy theorist to hang themselves & further look like the clueless simpletons that they are.

I'm not trying to argue, or take a side, but in this post you are the only one that is using the result of a game to provide evidence, or as you put it "proof, of whether or not it was "rigged."

**KVB** · 06-13-14, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by KVB

I'm not trying to argue, or take a side, but in this post you are the only one that is using the result of a game to provide evidence, or as you put it "proof, of whether or not it was "rigged."

Sorry, by "you" I meant the original poster.

**jsmithj88** · 06-13-14, 11:31 PM

it would be rigged if miami came back and won, haha

**4TH AND STUPID** · 06-14-14, 01:16 AM

farmhouse, youre looking like an idiot here. They can not "rig" an entire outcome. They can only favor a certain side if the game is reasonably close. Again, the NBA does not RIG every single game. In certain spots however there is clear favoritism and agendas, and this is what is highlighted by experienced handicappers. Then somehow nut jobs like you turn it into some sort of anti rig fest rant. Again, this isn't soccer, and an entire match can not be fixed. You're out in left field

**McPuffin** · 06-14-14, 04:18 AM

There was a lot of truth in Tim Donaghys book. People should really read it before making an opinion, the fact it was ripped off shelves and never talked about outside the gambling world should give you reason enough to believe there's truth behind altering CERTAIN games.
Also, some refs just hate individual players --- Steve Javie/Allen Iverson. I laugh everytime I see Javie commenting on calls from the games. Guy was the worst of the worst and of course ESPN would hire him to further prove there was no was he was dirty.

**jtoler** · 06-14-14, 07:45 AM

Farmhouse the noob.

**BCC585** · 06-14-14, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by McPuffin

There was a lot of truth in Tim Donaghys book. People should really read it before making an opinion, the fact it was ripped off shelves and never talked about outside the gambling world should give you reason enough to believe there's truth behind altering CERTAIN games.
Also, some refs just hate individual players --- Steve Javie/Allen Iverson. I laugh everytime I see Javie commenting on calls from the games. Guy was the worst of the worst and of course ESPN would hire him to further prove there was no was he was dirty.

How is that book?
I was thinking about giving it a read over this summer.
I don't believe the NBA fully rigs series but I do believe there is a chance that some refs, like you said, alter certain games like in the regular season.

One game that stuck out to me this season was Toronto @ Sacramento on February 5th.
After the Kings controlled majority of the game, Toronto was finally building up momentum in the 4th quarter.
Lowry makes the three to cut it to a 3 point game and gets called with a questionable offensive foul and a technical which killed the full momentum....

Usually that "offenisve foul" is a no call.
Usually players argue with refs when getting a call, Lowry gets a technical for running to the bench.
First time I ever witnessed a play like that.

Just my opinion/theory, it's ok if people disagree haha

**SpreadSniper** · 06-14-14, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by BCC585

Lowry makes the three to cut it to a 3 point game and gets called with a questionable offensive foul and a technical which killed the full momentum....

This is what I think a lot of these anti-riggers don't get or fail to realize. They think there has to be 100 bad calls in a game for it to qualify as being "rigged" when all it really takes is a couple calls in a game to kill momentum and subtly influence the outcome of a game.

**44 Mag** · 06-14-14, 09:45 AM

I've seen LBJ getting called twice this year for T's for running down the court and AWAY from the ref. No big deal I guess, but I remember the announcer even commenting "How is that a T" .

**SpreadSniper** · 06-14-14, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by 44 Mag

I've seen LBJ getting called twice this year for T's for running down the court and AWAY from the ref. No big deal I guess, but I remember the announcer even commenting "How is that a T" .

"a demonstrative action whether going towards or away from the ref.... you are still displaying your displeasure with the call"

**44 Mag** · 06-14-14, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by SpreadSniper

"a demonstrative action whether going towards or away from the ref.... you are still displaying your displeasure with the call"

Received, thanks for the heads up. Kind of a silly foul though??? But, a rule is a rule.

**4TH AND STUPID** · 06-14-14, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by SpreadSniper

This is what I think a lot of these anti-riggers don't get or fail to realize. They think there has to be 100 bad calls in a game for it to qualify as being "rigged" when all it really takes is a couple calls in a game to kill momentum and subtly influence the outcome of a game.

exactly. unfortunately most of the people here cant cap a winner if their life depended on it so how can you expect them to understand something so simple

**44 Mag** · 06-14-14, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by 4TH AND STUPID

exactly. unfortunately most of the people here cant cap a winner if their life depended on it so how can you expect them to understand something so simple

Because some folks like to make things more complicated than they really are so they will have something to discuss I guess?

**jtoler** · 06-14-14, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by SpreadSniper

"a demonstrative action whether going towards or away from the ref.... you are still displaying your displeasure with the call"

Thing is they dont give a T for that all the time, which is partiality. Just like fouls, they choose when they want to call them.

**BCC585** · 06-14-14, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by 44 Mag

Received, thanks for the heads up. Kind of a silly foul though??? But, a rule is a rule.

It's just amusing to me that majority of players will argue and not get a tech haha
I guess it just depends on the toleration level of the Ref

**44 Mag** · 06-14-14, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by BCC585

It's just amusing to me that majority of players will argue and not get a tech haha
I guess it just depends on the toleration level of the Ref

You didn't respond to the Poll ???

**44 Mag** · 06-14-14, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by jtoler

Thing is they dont give a T for that all the time, which is partiality. Just like fouls, they choose when they want to call them.

Agreed, I saw Carmello get called for handing the ball to the ref after a basket, some rule the offensive player is not allowed to touch the ball after a score??? He was simply handing it to Crawford and got rung up, never saw that before. LOL.

**jtoler** · 06-14-14, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by 44 Mag

Agreed, I saw Carmello get called for handing the ball to the ref after a basket, some rule the offensive player is not allowed to touch the ball after a score??? He was simply handing it to Crawford and got rung up, never saw that before. LOL.

Yeah they just implemented that this year I think, thats another one they dont call all the time though, its a delay of game they give, do it twice might be FT shot. But even with that they pick and choose when they want to give you a violation for it.

**SpreadSniper** · 06-14-14, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Thing is they dont give a T for that all the time, which is partiality. Just like fouls, they choose when they want to call them.

precisely. In basketball, calls/fouls are subjective. I get that at full speed there are going to be some errors made in how the game is refereed but to see such a blatant discrepancy from game to game on which calls are made and which aren't is a joke. It's a well known fact that superstars get the calls whereas MR. Irrelevant has to get his arm basically knocked off to get a couple free throws.

**KVB** · 06-14-14, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by SpreadSniper

This is what I think a lot of these anti-riggers don't get or fail to realize. They think there has to be 100 bad calls in a game for it to qualify as being "rigged" when all it really takes is a couple calls in a game to kill momentum and subtly influence the outcome of a game.

If you take this as true, then, because of the nature of the game, the "call to momentum kill" ratio can drop profoundly in the NFL.

**farmhouse1** · 06-14-14, 08:34 PM

Hahahahahaha all you dumbasss in here that commented are the dipshits who think the league "rigs" games or has an "agenda." Referees are human and make mistakes yeah some can be bias but it's the nature of the game. Yeah after that ti'm dounaghy shot came out the league implemented a rule stating refs can't wager on sports at all.