Worst possible situation with a heavy M/L on a (D) bet. Even if Philly wins I'll still have to absorb a big chunk of the series as a loss.
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Because you don't play the chase? How do you not show a profit in a 4 game chase? Using a different money management system?
Using scores and odds
Feb 11th Phi -550 ($550 to win $100)
Feb 12th Phi +2 (-108) ($702 to win $650)
Feb 20th Phi +6.5 (-110) ($1487 to win $1352)
Feb 22nd Phi -440 ($12,492 to win $2839)
Series risk $15,231 wow!!!! That is an insane risk for those who chased following the system. Go back to playing spreads! Take more series losses, less profit per season, but a whole lot less risk!Comment -
I would never bet any thing at -550 or for a $100. It's a skip or live bet wager situation. I ended up betting the "A" game at -192 which saved me a lot of my roll on that bet. Everyone has their own risk tolerance and bankroll but if your trying to win $100 a series with a chase you better have an iron stomach and a starting bankroll of about $10,000.Comment -
One thing I do ( and have always done with the NBA HT system ) , is when a series is CUT off midway by a BIG break, ie the ALL star break I don't play that series .
There was one or two teams that would have qualified for the system play whom had a game , if I recall correctly Feb 12 or 13th and would have continued following the LONG Break in action . I did not play that road fade.. Not sure if it makes any difference with this system or it's functioning .
Have a super weekend and best of luck fo4 tonight's games .Comment -
PHI (A) was a heavy fav at -550 so I risked 1 unit instead of to play for 1 unit which mitigated the risk and just ended up with a regular 1.1 unit loss.
(B) & (C) are spreads so it was bet normally
Tonight's (D) is another heavy fav at -535 now!! I would bet with the regular spread risk of 10 units but will only net me 1.8 units profit. I have already lost 9 units from the first 3 legs so I'll have to absorb 7.2 units as a loss even if Philly wins.
If Philly loses I will have lost the regular 19 unit series loss. All figures give or take a bit.Comment -
I live bet Philly +120 at HTComment -
Tip shot at the buzzer...
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Trade embiid.Comment -
I have a tiny unit size. The $100 was just an example. I typically stay between $10-$50 bet size for fun. I also manage my bet size similar to on3 system with the labby so it doesn't get too crazy. Take $100 as your baseline. Add or subtract the loss after each bet and divide by 5. If I lose $40 the next day is $140 / 5 so I'll bet $28 per game the next day. Win $20 and the 140 drops to 120 / 5 now bet $24 per game. Eventually hit a streak or sweep and clear your line.Comment -
Wallco NBA Chase 110
2024-2025 System To Date: 67-1 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -118.20 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 0
(2/22/25):
#65 Philadelphia (M/L) (D) - Loss
#68 Portland (M/L) (B) - Win
(A) 45-23
(B) 15-8
(C) 5-3
(D) 2-1
Losses: PHI (-185.20u)
There are no system plays for (2/23/25)
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.Comment -
I can only chuckle at this ridiculous 185-unit Philly last-second tip-in loss which IS the biggest loss for the system since backtesting and tracking from 22 years ago since 2003. Wallco can probably attest to that. We went from one of the best starts to begin a season to guaranteeing a worst season ever. Luckily I'm still up 20 units even with this system loss by playing it safe on moneylines but still sucks to lose 17 units on it.Comment -
That is crazy
Nowhere to go but upComment -
I must admit that I had written off the Philadelphia series as a loss after the C bet. Hope that not too many of you have suffered the full loss.
As for Portland - I put a very tiny run line bet on them for -5. How could they win by 53 points?
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I don't think anyone followed that play, so everyone should still be up for the season. Yes, that is the biggest loss ever, and I don't see that ever happening again. It only figures that it was the Sixers. I am from Philly area, and we all know around here that the Sixers are the biggest fraud franchise in professional sports history.Comment -
Accepted!!!Comment -
We could just fade philly each game if that is the case. They are 20 - 36 ATS lol.Comment -
Wallco NBA Chase 110
2024-2025 System To Date: 67-1 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -118.20 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 0
(A) 45-23
(B) 15-8
(C) 5-3
(D) 2-1
Losses: PHI (-185.20u)
Games for (2/24/25):
#69 Philadelphia (M/L) (A)
Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.Comment -
I'll just treat Philadelphia as an 8-game series and risk 8000 units on itComment -
Man I bet philly again but I got -5.5 playing spread instead of ML. Down 94-63 and they continue to be favorite ��. There is too much time management with these all stars. Embiid has only played 19 games this season. PG only 38 games and they have large contracts to watch their teammates play.Comment -
The Sixers dressing room is like an infirmary. Can't really blame Embiid as his body is failing him. Lowry is hurt. They lost two more guys mid-game also because of injuries. PG is the problem. He's been playing so bad. He just went to Philly for the money. He doesn't care about the team.Comment -
Wallco NBA Chase 110
2024-2025 System To Date: 67-1 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -118.20 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 1
(2/24/25):
#69 Philadelphia (M/L) (A) - Loss
(A) 45-24
(B) 15-8
(C) 5-3
(D) 2-1
Losses: PHI (-185.20u)
There are no system plays for (2/25/25)
#69 Resumes (B) on 2/26/25
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.Comment -
If we can expand " he doesn't care about the team" to about 75% of the NBA players in the league ... I'm on board with the comment ..
I sports wager or invest or bet .. whatever one wishes to call it , because I enjoy numbers . Nothing life changing or no early retirement happening here with the assistance of sports investing ... just fun and a pastime that is a very very slow climb upwards for me .
I don't believe many athletes actually truly care about the sports these days they way people who played sports once did.
Once you attach life altering Income x 1000 to anything in life , you dilute the shit out of it IMO .
The Sixers are a terrible mess but eventually they'll string together a few point spread wins , as the odds makers will ensure it .
Have a super day . Cheers ��Comment -
It does help. But run the same test on older years, as I did, and you'll see much different results that that. Hence, as much as I hated the M/L plays, it just worked out to be more profitable. But like EVERY facet of gambling, regardless of systems, the house will ALWAYS win in the end.Comment -
No, sky is right. I am from Philly area, and this jacka ss only cares about personal achievements, and not at all about team success. He is more interested in MVP than championships, and always has been. Most NBA players are the same way. This is why I have NEVER liked basketball, and I never will. I would never be caught dead watching a game. And throw in the element of teams deliberately tanking, and I scratch my head wondering why anyone would support this "sport".Last edited by Wallco99; 02-25-25, 02:05 PM.Comment -
Wallco you echoed my best friends words to a T lol. He sent me the same message about PG last night also. Hard to believe a player who has such skill and after an almost Career ending injury when ( was it she shin split in half) .. you'd think he would look at it differently.
We think very much alike ..spending money on visiting an arena for this product is out of the question.
Have a super week sir.Comment -
Wallco NBA Chase 110
2024-2025 System To Date: 67-1 (fin. series)
System Profit/Loss: -118.20 Units (fin. series)
Current Open Series: 1
(A) 45-24
(B) 15-8
(C) 5-3
(D) 2-1
Losses: PHI (-185.20u)
Games for (2/26/25):
#69 Philadelphia (+10) (B)
#70 Los Angeles Clippers (M/L) (A)
#71 San Antonio (+9) (A)
Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.
We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.Comment
This is when the system is challenging. I've been betting less on this one for the B and C bets so my losses are mitigated but it still hurts.
