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  • ken23lau
    SBR Sharp
    • 09-11-10
    • 296

    #3326
    Bring out the brooms
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    • skyscrapers
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 05-02-11
      • 6154

      #3327
      Wallco NBA Chase 110
      2024-2025 System To Date: 19-0 (fin. series)
      System Profit/Loss: +19 Units (fin. series)
      Current Open Series: 0

      (11/27/24):
      #17 Sacramento (+3) (A) - Win
      #18 Atlanta (+9) (A) - Win
      #19 Los Angeles (M/L) (A) - Win

      (A) 12-7
      (B) 3-4
      (C) 3-1
      (D) 1-0
      Losses: 0

      There are no system plays for (11/28/24)

      Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

      We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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      • skyscrapers
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 05-02-11
        • 6154

        #3328
        Wallco NBA Chase 110
        2024-2025 System To Date: 19-0 (fin. series)
        System Profit/Loss: +19 Units (fin. series)
        Current Open Series: 0

        (A) 12-7
        (B) 3-4
        (C) 3-1
        (D) 1-0
        Losses: 0

        There are no system plays for (11/29/24)

        Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

        We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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        • skyscrapers
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 05-02-11
          • 6154

          #3329
          Wallco NBA Chase 110
          2024-2025 System To Date: 19-0 (fin. series)
          System Profit/Loss: +19 Units (fin. series)
          Current Open Series: 0

          (A) 12-7
          (B) 3-4
          (C) 3-1
          (D) 1-0
          Losses: 0

          There are no system plays for (11/30/24)

          Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

          We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #3330
            jjjj
            Last edited by Wallco99; 12-03-24, 07:47 AM.
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            • skyscrapers
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 05-02-11
              • 6154

              #3331
              Wallco NBA Chase 110
              2024-2025 System To Date: 19-0 (fin. series)
              System Profit/Loss: +19 Units (fin. series)
              Current Open Series: 0

              (A) 12-7
              (B) 3-4
              (C) 3-1
              (D) 1-0
              Losses: 0

              Games for (12/1/24):
              #20 Utah (+8) (A)

              Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

              We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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              • skyscrapers
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-02-11
                • 6154

                #3332
                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                2024-2025 System To Date: 20-0 (fin. series)
                System Profit/Loss: +20 Units (fin. series)
                Current Open Series: 0

                (12/1/24):
                #20 Utah (+5.5) (A) - Win

                (A) 13-7
                (B) 3-4
                (C) 3-1
                (D) 1-0
                Losses: 0

                There are no system plays for (12/2/24)

                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                • skyscrapers
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 05-02-11
                  • 6154

                  #3333
                  Wallco NBA Chase 110
                  2024-2025 System To Date: 20-0 (fin. series)
                  System Profit/Loss: +20 Units (fin. series)
                  Current Open Series: 0

                  (A) 13-7
                  (B) 3-4
                  (C) 3-1
                  (D) 1-0
                  Losses: 0

                  There are no system plays for (12/3/24)

                  Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                  We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                  • Wallco99
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7261

                    #3334
                    ...
                    Last edited by Wallco99; 12-03-24, 07:39 PM.
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                    • skyscrapers
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-02-11
                      • 6154

                      #3335
                      Wallco NBA Chase 110
                      2024-2025 System To Date: 20-0 (fin. series)
                      System Profit/Loss: +20 Units (fin. series)
                      Current Open Series: 0

                      (A) 13-7
                      (B) 3-4
                      (C) 3-1
                      (D) 1-0
                      Losses: 0

                      Games for (12/4/24):
                      #21 Indiana (M/L) (A)
                      #22
                      Brooklyn (+2.5) (A)

                      Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                      We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                      • TwoCats
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 07-14-12
                        • 227

                        #3336
                        Blast - I did not notice that Indiana and Brooklyn were playing each other. Generally I avoid bets like that because normally you will lose one of the bets!
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                        • skyscrapers
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 05-02-11
                          • 6154

                          #3337
                          Originally posted by TwoCats
                          Blast - I did not notice that Indiana and Brooklyn were playing each other. Generally I avoid bets like that because normally you will lose one of the bets!
                          Always play it because you won't lose both but you'll have a chance to win both
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                          • skyscrapers
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-02-11
                            • 6154

                            #3338
                            Wallco NBA Chase 110
                            2024-2025 System To Date: 21-0 (fin. series)
                            System Profit/Loss: +21 Units (fin. series)
                            Current Open Series: 1

                            (12/4/24):
                            #21 Indiana (M/L) (A) - Loss
                            #22 Brooklyn (+3) (A) - Win

                            (A) 14-8
                            (B) 3-4
                            (C) 3-1
                            (D) 1-0
                            Losses: 0

                            There are no system plays for (12/5/24)

                            #21 Resumes (B) on 12/6/24

                            Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                            We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                            • TwoCats
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 07-14-12
                              • 227

                              #3339
                              Originally posted by skyscrapers
                              Always play it because you won't lose both but you'll have a chance to win both
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                              • skyscrapers
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-02-11
                                • 6154

                                #3340
                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                2024-2025 System To Date: 21-0 (fin. series)
                                System Profit/Loss: +21 Units (fin. series)
                                Current Open Series: 1

                                (A) 14-8
                                (B) 3-4
                                (C) 3-1
                                (D) 1-0
                                Losses: 0

                                Games for (12/6/24):
                                #21 Indiana (M/L) (B)

                                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                                • skyscrapers
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-02-11
                                  • 6154

                                  #3341
                                  Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                  2024-2025 System To Date: 22-0 (fin. series)
                                  System Profit/Loss: +22 Units (fin. series)
                                  Current Open Series: 0

                                  (12/6/24):
                                  #21 Indiana (M/L) (B) - Win

                                  (A) 14-8
                                  (B) 4-4
                                  (C) 3-1
                                  (D) 1-0
                                  Losses: 0

                                  There are no system plays for (12/7/24)

                                  Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                  We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                                  • skyscrapers
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-02-11
                                    • 6154

                                    #3342
                                    Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                    2024-2025 System To Date: 22-0 (fin. series)
                                    System Profit/Loss: +22 Units (fin. series)
                                    Current Open Series: 0

                                    (A) 14-8
                                    (B) 4-4
                                    (C) 3-1
                                    (D) 1-0
                                    Losses: 0

                                    Games for (12/8/24):
                                    #23 Charlotte (+11.5) (A)
                                    #24 San Antonio (M/L) (A)
                                    #25 Portland (+9.5) (A)

                                    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
                                    Last edited by skyscrapers; 12-08-24, 01:42 PM. Reason: Updated lines
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                                    • skyscrapers
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-02-11
                                      • 6154

                                      #3343
                                      Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                      2024-2025 System To Date: 24-0 (fin. series)
                                      System Profit/Loss: +24 Units (fin. series)
                                      Current Open Series: 1

                                      (12/8/24):
                                      #23 Charlotte (+12) (A) - Win
                                      #24 San Antonio (M/L) (A) - Win
                                      #25 Portland (+7) (A) - Loss

                                      (A) 16-9
                                      (B) 4-4
                                      (C) 3-1
                                      (D) 1-0
                                      Losses: 0

                                      There are no system plays for (12/9/24)

                                      #25 Resumes (B) on 12/13/24

                                      Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                      We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                                      • skyscrapers
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 05-02-11
                                        • 6154

                                        #3344
                                        Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                        2024-2025 System To Date: 24-0 (fin. series)
                                        System Profit/Loss: +24 Units (fin. series)
                                        Current Open Series: 1

                                        (A) 16-9
                                        (B) 4-4
                                        (C) 3-1
                                        (D) 1-0
                                        Losses: 0

                                        There are no system plays for (12/10/24)

                                        #25 Resumes (B) on 12/13/24

                                        Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                        We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
                                        Comment
                                        • shwang80
                                          SBR Hustler
                                          • 02-11-21
                                          • 84

                                          #3345
                                          This is a very interesting system. What team and date created the losses for each losing event in the dataset? I want to see if there is a pattern. I have a chase system of my own, and I managed to uncover a pattern that when addressed, helped mitigate several losses by excluding games that fit that pattern. It does remove additional plays, but it removed less than 18 which made the exclusion, profitable. I wonder if this system has a similar vulnerability. I don't need the entire data set. I just need the team and date when the series began that led to the loss.
                                          Last edited by shwang80; 12-10-24, 01:36 PM.
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                                          • ken23lau
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 09-11-10
                                            • 296

                                            #3346
                                            Losses are tracked by skyscrapers on the daily posts. One filter that I personally use is avoiding a team if they lost the (D) bet previously in the season. It eliminates the terrible teams that can't cover large spreads. Backtesting wise this has come out positive but obviously not a large sample size given the rarity of which losses occur in the first place.
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                                            • shwang80
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 02-11-21
                                              • 84

                                              #3347
                                              I have the results of my analysis. It's a no-brainer. I'm going to save you guys a ton of money. I'll be back in about an hour (gotta go pick up the kiddos). Believe me, the results are going to blow your heads off.
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                                              • shwang80
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 02-11-21
                                                • 84

                                                #3348
                                                The analysis I performed was based on things that can be controlled on the date of the trigger. A trigger meaning that a team met the criteria and a post was created to trigger the series, and a (A) bet was initiated.

                                                During the creation of my own chase system, I realized that top ranked teams are simply above and beyond in terms of quality versus the other teams in the league. The counter is also true that the lowest ranked teams are not just slightly worse than the rest of the league, they were truly terrible.

                                                I felt compelled to run this analysis because of my own discoveries, and I hope that this analysis will help optimize this system, as it's a pretty good system that needs a few more filters to mitigate a huge portion of the risk.

                                                Without further ado: These are the results of my analysis:

                                                24 losses were recorded from beginning of posting (10-22-2015)

                                                I used teamrankings.com to get the Predictive Ranks of every team that has lost (from the initial series trigger date).

                                                1. Out of the 24 losses recorded: 13 losses occurred from teams ranked 27 or lower (this is on the trigger date (A), not on the dates that the games were played (B), (C), or (D)). This is a very preventable occurrence.

                                                2. Remaining losses came from teams ranked 16 or lower, but there were some patterns there as well. If you have access to the next 4 games for that team, you can check the rankings of the future opponents (again, on the date of the trigger) to see if there are at least 2 teams with a rank of 8 or better. These can be avoided to mitigate risk. Remember, you can always wait until the opponent ranks re-arrange in your favor as long as the team continues to lose.

                                                I do realize that sometimes losses are just part of the system. However, I would highly suggest a back-test that excludes these specific scenarios to see if the back-saves make up for the missed wins. For sure, #1 is an absolute money saver. I can't fathom justifying the continuation of the system in its current state when a simple modification can back-save 260 unit of losses.

                                                If both situations were avoided, 24 losses would have shrunk down to 4. Again, I do not know how much of the winnings will have been affected if the system were to be modified as specified, but 4 losses over 8~9 years is a fantastic result.

                                                I'm including a link to a google sheet for visual reference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


                                                Let me know what you guys think.
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                                                • shwang80
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 02-11-21
                                                  • 84

                                                  #3349
                                                  Another very interesting fact, there were zero losses from teams ranked 15 or better. Which means, that instead of limiting to a 1 unit gain, you should really think about increasing the initial wager to capitalize on this metric.
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                                                  • shwang80
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 02-11-21
                                                    • 84

                                                    #3350
                                                    Avoid

                                                    Btw, Portland is ranked #29....
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                                                    • ken23lau
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 09-11-10
                                                      • 296

                                                      #3351
                                                      Insightful analysis, but without a backtest it's just theory. Teams played are coming off 3 SU/ATS losses and so nature of the system would skew towards the lower half of the league. By applying a top 15 filter we could be eliminating a ton of wins as well.
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                                                      • shwang80
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 02-11-21
                                                        • 84

                                                        #3352
                                                        That's only applicable to the 2nd part of the analysis. The first part (rank 27 or worse) filter is a huge money saver. Back testing isn't critical there since it equates to roughly 260 units (several seasons worth of gains in losses). Of course there will be wins where those lower ranked teams will eventually win ML/ATS in the 4 matchups, but it'll be a small fraction compared to the losses.

                                                        Also, it's not a bottom half filter. It's a bottom half with a schedule that consists of two opponents ranked 8 or better in the next 4 games.
                                                        Last edited by shwang80; 12-10-24, 05:57 PM.
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                                                        • shwang80
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 02-11-21
                                                          • 84

                                                          #3353
                                                          I get it. I'm new here. It's fine if skyscrapers doesn't take into account my opinions. I can run a simple filter against the posted games. I'm just trying to provide insight because I would have been grateful had someone like myself appeared to provide in-depth analysis on my own system's pitfalls. I lost a lot of money during my own learning curve.
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                                                          • Can U Tank It
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-02-15
                                                            • 198

                                                            #3354
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                                                            • skyscrapers
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 05-02-11
                                                              • 6154

                                                              #3355
                                                              Interesting analysis but I'm not the original creator for this system. I'm only tracking, running, & posting on behalf of Wallco (while also playing it myself and making money). He was the one who did all the backtests and created this system. Out of respect we should keep it as is here. However, anyone can implement their own modifications for their own betting as they see fit.
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                                                              • skyscrapers
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 05-02-11
                                                                • 6154

                                                                #3356
                                                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                                2024-2025 System To Date: 24-0 (fin. series)
                                                                System Profit/Loss: +24 Units (fin. series)
                                                                Current Open Series: 1

                                                                (A) 16-9
                                                                (B) 4-4
                                                                (C) 3-1
                                                                (D) 1-0
                                                                Losses: 0

                                                                There are no system plays for (12/11/24)

                                                                #25 Resumes (B) on 12/13/24

                                                                Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

                                                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from Scoresandodds.com. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on Scoresandodds.com final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post. System rules and backtests can be found in posts #96 & #3263-3264.
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                                                                • shwang80
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 02-11-21
                                                                  • 84

                                                                  #3357
                                                                  This is fair. I can run the backtests, I have the data for 2019-current. I know SBR archives has the rest. I can scrape teamrankings for the other dates. Heck, I can probably go as far back as 2007-2008. The obvious question is: Does it make a difference to you guys? If it doesn't, I won't even bother.
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                                                                  • Wallco99
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                                    • 7261

                                                                    #3358
                                                                    I would say, start it up in your own thread as to not create confusion in this one. As Ken mentioned, it's only a theory, and right now things are being run very smoothly by Sky. I do not want to mix two systems in here. While you are simply calling it "tweaking", in reality, it's actually a whole new system that you are proposing, though mimicking mine. So as I asked, please do it in your own thread. Then you can set any criteria you propose and track those results in real time. Thanks.
                                                                    Last edited by Wallco99; 12-11-24, 11:33 AM.
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                                                                    • ken23lau
                                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                                      • 09-11-10
                                                                      • 296

                                                                      #3359
                                                                      Originally posted by shwang80
                                                                      This is fair. I can run the backtests, I have the data for 2019-current. I know SBR archives has the rest. I can scrape teamrankings for the other dates. Heck, I can probably go as far back as 2007-2008. The obvious question is: Does it make a difference to you guys? If it doesn't, I won't even bother.
                                                                      Definitely would appreciate the backtests but would also welcome a new thread on results and modifications etc.
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                                                                      • shwang80
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 02-11-21
                                                                        • 84

                                                                        #3360
                                                                        I'm working on the backtesting as we speak. It'll take a day or two for 2019 - current results. I can work in the rest once the structure is in place. I'll report back with results, and as Skyscrapers and WallCo99 has requested, I'll just include the full game picks along with my quarter chase system thread.
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