John Morrison 2012-13 NBA Thread

**bisturis** · 08-14-12, 05:32 PM

I can't wait till the NBA starts back up! Thanks for getting this thread up so early Wallco!

**Wallco99** · 08-14-12, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by bisturis

I can't wait till the NBA starts back up! Thanks for getting this thread up so early Wallco!

Trying to spark some interest, and trying to talk Hagball into running the JM portion, I like his style.

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-14-12, 06:19 PM

Probably should get all the rules, pdf, bankroll management, or labby strategy out of the way on the first page, so we all can just refer to page 1 when people have questions.

Maybe include past back test season averages as well, just so people have a feel how much one can expect to win through out the season.

Good Luck to everyone this season. NBA always seems to be much more profitable then MLB.

**on3** · 08-14-12, 06:35 PM

i placed a little futures action when i saw the miami/lakers/okc to win champ at -280 at a local of mine. looking forward to a good season.

**on3** · 08-14-12, 06:44 PM

here is the NFL thread http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...l#post15666512

**Wallco99** · 08-14-12, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by on3

here is the NFL thread http://forum.sbrforum.com/nfl-bettin...l#post15666512

Thank you.

**DustyDiamond** · 08-15-12, 05:56 AM

Checking in

**hagball52** · 08-15-12, 09:21 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Trying to spark some interest, and trying to talk Hagball into running the JM portion, I like his style.

Checking in. I can't commit to running the JM portion of this thread until after Sept. 25th because of personal reasons. If someone else wants to step up and take it and feel they can do it properly I have no problem with that. If my schedule plays out like I think it will by the end of Sept. then I could run it. We have plenty of time, the season doesn't start until late October.

**Wallco99** · 08-15-12, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by hagball52

Checking in. I can't commit to running the JM portion of this thread until after Sept. 25th because of personal reasons. If someone else wants to step up and take it and feel they can do it properly I have no problem with that. If my schedule plays out like I think it will by the end of Sept. then I could run it. We have plenty of time, the season doesn't start until late October.

Good enough for me, thanks for the response.

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-15-12, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by on3

i placed a little futures action when i saw the miami/lakers/okc to win champ at -280 at a local of mine. looking forward to a good season.

What odds do you get if you bet each of them separate? I see LaL at +250 at one book, mia +225, & okc +450

odds / lines from 1betvegas . com

**on3** · 08-16-12, 12:01 AM

if played separate, odds come out to -330 or so. so i hit the -280, within 1 hour it was -300, today its at -400.

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-16-12, 04:52 PM

NBA so rigged anyone has a chance to win this year. I do not think Mia will repeat. Dallas always has a chance a long with the bulls, so I hope you did not wager too much.

**Maxi_EV** · 08-18-12, 08:49 PM

Wallco

Did you finally rebacktested Chase110 with 7/5 method?

Any new discoveries?

**Wallco99** · 08-19-12, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

Wallco

Did you finally rebacktested Chase110 with 7/5 method?

Any new discoveries?

Not yet. Four game chase is a little tough to implement that strategy.

**Maxi_EV** · 08-20-12, 05:55 AM

Why?

It could be either AB 7/5, BC 7/5 or CD 7/5. The only question is wich one performed best?

**Wallco99** · 08-20-12, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

Why?

It could be either AB 7/5, BC 7/5 or CD 7/5. The only question is wich one performed best?

I was thinking more of the 1-3-5 if I do anything.

**Maxi_EV** · 08-20-12, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

I was thinking more of the 1-3-5 if I do anything.

I see.

Do you have a win/loss record for each level of bets (ABCD) for each season?

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-20-12, 08:06 PM

Do you all remember the knicks series? I believe that was nearly a 50 unit chase if you were playing money line now you all want to up the stakes either using 1/3/5 or 7/5? If its ATS no problem, but following the rules of the system is

**Maxi_EV** · 08-20-12, 09:23 PM

I remember know Wallco saying that he would have to rebacktest all using only ATS. And that was quite a job!

**Wallco99** · 08-21-12, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by J.M. Disciple

Do you all remember the knicks series? I believe that was nearly a 50 unit chase if you were playing money line now you all want to up the stakes either using 1/3/5 or 7/5? If its ATS no problem, but following the rules of the system is

Correct, I would only implement the 1-3-5 if the backtest for all plays being -110 proved to be a winner, but as I said last year, I have to run that test, and til now, I haven't had the time since I am still working on the MLB system.

**Mrscofield25** · 08-21-12, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Correct, I would only implement the 1-3-5 if the backtest for all plays being -110 proved to be a winner, but as I said last year, I have to run that test, and til now, I haven't had the time since I am still working on the MLB system.

With all the work you're putting into these backtestings, systems etc. I belive you one day will have the Ultimate Wallco, Million Dollar Printing, Betting System. Without a doubt!

**Wallco99** · 08-21-12, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by Mrscofield25

With all the work you're putting into these backtestings, systems etc. I belive you one day will have the Ultimate Wallco, Million Dollar Printing, Betting System. Without a doubt!

That's what I'm striving for, baseball backtesting is extremely tedious, the NBA won't be so bad once I find time. My goal is to find a system for each sport where our series risk is low, and payouts are plentiful or larger in payout. In MLB, I am working on all +money systems, and low odds favorite systems, thus making a series loss 7-8 units and a win multiple units. Also, for NBA, I want effective systems that allow us to play all games at -110, and not suffer too many losses, though some will be inevitable. I'm working it, and found a couple baseball systems that I am currently playing, and doing fairly well, but don't feel they have been tested enough to relase them on here yet. When I put something on here, know that I have tested the crap out of it and it has showed very promising results, however, no future success can be guaranteed based on previous years results, but that should be obvious to everyone by now. Thanks.

**Mrscofield25** · 08-21-12, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

That's what I'm striving for, baseball backtesting is extremely tedious, the NBA won't be so bad once I find time. My goal is to find a system for each sport where our series risk is low, and payouts are plentiful or larger in payout. In MLB, I am working on all +money systems, and low odds favorite systems, thus making a series loss 7-8 units and a win multiple units. Also, for NBA, I want effective systems that allow us to play all games at -110, and not suffer too many losses, though some will be inevitable. I'm working it, and found a couple baseball systems that I am currently playing, and doing fairly well, but don't feel they have been tested enough to relase them on here yet. When I put something on here, know that I have tested the crap out of it and it has showed very promising results, however, no future success can be guaranteed based on previous years results, but that should be obvious to everyone by now. Thanks.

It's always better to be safe than sorry so I know what you mean. You know I appreciate your work and time you're putting in it. I don't think there are many guys out there like you, who's doing all this for free. And correct with previous years results. There is no guarantee.

**Wallco99** · 08-21-12, 04:09 PM

Originally posted by Mrscofield25

It's always better to be safe than sorry so I know what you mean. You know I appreciate your work and time you're putting in it. I don't think there are many guys out there like you, who's doing all this for free. And correct with previous years results. There is no guarantee.

Thanks, I appreciate that. But there are others out there. Hagball and on3, to mention a couple, give a lot of time also.

**Maxi_EV** · 08-23-12, 09:44 AM

Wallco

Can you please post a record of Chase110 played as created please?

I want to calculate my unit size based on Risk Of Ruin.

Thanks.

**Wallco99** · 08-23-12, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

Wallco

Can you please post a record of Chase110 played as created please?

I want to calculate my unit size based on Risk Of Ruin.

Thanks.

yes, when I get some free time I will post that for you.

**Wallco99** · 08-26-12, 07:33 PM

Is it basketball season yet.....?

**J.M. Disciple** · 08-27-12, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Is it basketball season yet.....?

OCT 5th is the first preseason game, so we have some time still.

**analyzer** · 08-30-12, 07:33 AM

Checking in - looking forward to a great season!

**Wallco99** · 09-04-12, 03:38 PM

Originally posted by analyzer

Checking in - looking forward to a great season!

Won't be long now.

**knugen** · 09-05-12, 04:38 AM

Wallco do u gonna follow jm all 3 versions?

**Wallco99** · 09-05-12, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by knugen

Wallco do u gonna follow jm all 3 versions?

I am not 100% sure yet, I still need to check a few things out. If I do, it will be 1-3-5, or maybe the 7/5 that we came up with last year. I will be playing chase 110, NHL Gold, and probably some JM.

**knugen** · 09-06-12, 11:20 PM

Nothing from SBP?

**DustyDiamond** · 09-09-12, 06:01 PM

Wallco, which do you recommend for JM NBA? 7/5 or 1-3-5. Do you have a betting system for Chase -110 like 1-3-5-7? Thanks, I can't wait for the season to start up.