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  • HeeluvaGuy
    SBR MVP
    • 02-15-14
    • 3449

    #106
    Originally posted by 2daBank
    Honestly not sure how much credit I want to give sparty's defense against unc? Heels missed a ungodly amount uncontested layups in that game. I suppose a case could be made they were "hearing footsteps" so to speak as sparty did block a number of shots early on.. I just don't recall seeing a game with the amount of misses unc had on uncontested good looks!!
    I'm actively trying to forget that game, but what's left in my memory is that MSU set a tone very early that UNC wasn't going to get easy points. Everything snowballed from there. But even if you take the UNC game out of the equation, MSU is still allowing just .917 points per possession, which would rank them around 55th best nationally. With the UNC game they're 11th at .844 PPP. Both of those numbers are pretty good.
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    • GoCanes24
      SBR High Roller
      • 07-02-17
      • 151

      #107
      Nice work HG I'll all over the under in Riverside and Temple +1!
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      • 2daBank
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-26-09
        • 88966

        #108
        Originally posted by GoCanes24
        Nice work HG I'll all over the under in Riverside and Temple +1!
        Seems like we all like temple, scary. Lol. I like agreeing with guys I respect but when we all on same side I get nervous! Lol
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        • GPrime19
          SBR MVP
          • 11-03-17
          • 1276

          #109
          Originally posted by 2daBank
          Seems like we all like temple, scary. Lol. I like agreeing with guys I respect but when we all on same side I get nervous! Lol
          Same.. but I think they’re way more ready for this test than SC is. Beating western Michigan 17 times doesn’t get you ready for MSG vs a good team.
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          • 2daBank
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-26-09
            • 88966

            #110
            Originally posted by GPrime19
            Same.. but I think they’re way more ready for this test than SC is. Beating western Michigan 17 times doesn’t get you ready for MSG vs a good team.
            lol, I agree. Way more battle tested and think their stretch bigs create some issues for scary.
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            • Capybara
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-17-08
              • 11803

              #111
              Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
              At this point in the season I'm really working with ranges of outcomes more than precise numbers. When/if I dust off my model I will have scores for every game available, but that's still just one tool I use. With that said, here's where I am on this game:

              Using current season stats only, I get a high score of 143. However, that's using 73 possessions which I think is high by 5 or so due to how these teams historically play under these coaches (and against each other somewhat).

              So if I have a high range of 143, why the under at 141.5? Well, based on the slower pace I expect to see, I get a score of 134. (FWIW, I agree with kenpom on 68 possessions here.) I also like to see what other computer models have. Kenpom has 137, Massey has 128 (and ~77% chance of staying below 142), and DRatings has 136. I also looked back at the last couple of meetings to see how these styles play out. The last two years they have played games totaling 136 and 113 on 65 and 64 possessions. So I feel pretty good that I have the pace right. As always, unexpectedly hot shooting can kill any under (along with refs that call too many fouls).

              That may may be more than you wanted, but if you guys are using my picks to help you out, it's only right that you have some idea where I'm coming from.
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              • GoCanes24
                SBR High Roller
                • 07-02-17
                • 151

                #112
                Originally posted by 2daBank
                Seems like we all like temple, scary. Lol. I like agreeing with guys I respect but when we all on same side I get nervous! Lol
                Lmao should be a fun game for the board
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                • HeeluvaGuy
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-15-14
                  • 3449

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Capybara
                  Killing me
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                  • Spartandawg
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 12-14-13
                    • 60

                    #114
                    Massive line movement on the unders tonight in our favor. Knock on wood
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                    • Louisvillekid1
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-17-07
                      • 52143

                      #115
                      Keep killin it
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                      • HeeluvaGuy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-15-14
                        • 3449

                        #116
                        3-0 night last night. I don't sweep very often, so that was nice even if it was only 3 games.

                        Thread: 20-14 (+4.69u)
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                        • HeeluvaGuy
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-15-14
                          • 3449

                          #117
                          Looks like a pass for me on Friday. I'm traveling this weekend, so plays will be limited. But don't worry. We have something like 3,000 more games this season.
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                          • doubledime
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 04-22-09
                            • 9751

                            #118
                            Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                            3-0 night last night. I don't sweep very often, so that was nice even if it was only 3 games.

                            Thread: 20-14 (+4.69u)
                            Well done again. Safe travels
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                            • Capybara
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-17-08
                              • 11803

                              #119
                              Great day, Professor!
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                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                SBR MVP
                                • 02-15-14
                                • 3449

                                #120
                                For Saturday:

                                2:00 IUPUI/Ball St u155.5
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                                • HeeluvaGuy
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-15-14
                                  • 3449

                                  #121
                                  Another Saturday:

                                  8:00 South Dakota St -2.5
                                  This is a really good mid major matchup with two high caliber mid major bigs in Alize Johnson and Mike Daum. The Jackrabbits have the better supporting cast and should be able to do enough to keep Missouri St off the offensive glass. I do have a little concern abou SDSU's legs after the OT game in Mississippi earlier in the week, but if the threes are falling this could be a double digit win. Note: this is not a true home game for SDSU.
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                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-15-14
                                    • 3449

                                    #122
                                    Next up for Saturday:

                                    7:00 Cleveland St/Kent St u144
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                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 02-15-14
                                      • 3449

                                      #123
                                      Not in love with this card, but here's one I've had my eye on:

                                      7:00 Long Beach +210 (this is a .5u play for me)
                                      The perception of Long Beach is that they're bad because Monson will go on the road and play anyone, anywhere. But they're averaging less than two losses per year at home over the past 3-4 years. Fresno has played no one and is a poor FT shooting team that makes some bad decisions. Grab the points if you want, but I like the chances of a SU doggie winner here.
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                                      • 2daBank
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-26-09
                                        • 88966

                                        #124
                                        Was kinda looking at that one as well. Gl today
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                                        • HeeluvaGuy
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-15-14
                                          • 3449

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by 2daBank
                                          Was kinda looking at that one as well. Gl today
                                          Thanks banker. GL to you as well. The Beach caught my eye yesterday and I like to take the occasional shot.
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                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-17-07
                                            • 52143

                                            #126
                                            All over LBST
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                                            • Capybara
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-17-08
                                              • 11803

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy
                                              Another Saturday:

                                              8:00 South Dakota St -2.5
                                              This is a really good mid major matchup with two high caliber mid major bigs in Alize Johnson and Mike Daum. The Jackrabbits have the better supporting cast and should be able to do enough to keep Missouri St off the offensive glass. I do have a little concern abou SDSU's legs after the OT game in Mississippi earlier in the week, but if the threes are falling this could be a double digit win. Note: this is not a true home game for SDSU.
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                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-15-14
                                                • 3449

                                                #128
                                                9:00 San Francisco +17
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                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                  • 52143

                                                  #129
                                                  Line is certainly high

                                                  if wasn’t first road game I’d prefer 1h

                                                  hmm
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                                                  • HeeluvaGuy
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-15-14
                                                    • 3449

                                                    #130
                                                    I should have explained a little. This is mostly an ASU fade. I think they're overvalued based on the Xavier win. They're riding some very hot shooting to start the year, but I think this is a letdown spot. Finals start Monday and ASU doesn't play for a week after this game. I'm looking for them to just get this one over with, but I could get buried if they hit their threes.
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                                                    • Louisvillekid1
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-17-07
                                                      • 52143

                                                      #131
                                                      I agree
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                                                      • HeeluvaGuy
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-15-14
                                                        • 3449

                                                        #132
                                                        2-3 day (or 2-2.5 lol). One point in the USF game from a winning day. Totals were solid; sides weren't good.

                                                        Thread: 22-17 (+3.99u)
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                                                        • KVB
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 05-29-14
                                                          • 74817

                                                          #133
                                                          Nice Work Guy, I hadn't seen this thread yet.

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                                                          • HeeluvaGuy
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-15-14
                                                            • 3449

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by KVB
                                                            Nice Work Guy, I hadn't seen this thread yet.

                                                            Thanks KVB. Nice to see you!
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                                                            • HeeluvaGuy
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-15-14
                                                              • 3449

                                                              #135
                                                              For Sunday:

                                                              4:00 Northwestern/Purdue o144.5
                                                              I have this game going over 70 possessions, which should be enough for these offenses to get to 145+. However, I do worry a little about the pace of these games over the past few years (no game over 67 possessions).
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                                                              • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 02-15-14
                                                                • 3449

                                                                #136
                                                                2:30 Temple/George Washington u140
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                                                                • Louisvillekid1
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 10-17-07
                                                                  • 52143

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Get em today
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                                                                  • doubledime
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 04-22-09
                                                                    • 9751

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Good luck today
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                                                                    • HeeluvaGuy
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-15-14
                                                                      • 3449

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Thanks guys. Last one for Sunday:

                                                                      3:00 George Mason/Auburn u155

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                                                                      • Louisvillekid1
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 10-17-07
                                                                        • 52143

                                                                        #140
                                                                        That one has been close for me

                                                                        I’ll fire 1x
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