WHY Eagles LOSE

**stevenash** · 02-01-25, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by OldBill

you know andy reids record rested 98% s/u winns

By Andy Reid's record rested I'm assuming you mean his w-l record directly following a bye week.

Reid's record as a HC following a bye week is 21-3, a stellar w-l record no matter how you dice, slice, and cut it up, but your math is a tad fuzzy.
21-3 though is not 98% though, 21-3 is 87.5%, but what's eleven percentage points between friends.

Here's an easy way to convert won loss records to pct, without a need for a pencil, pad, or fancy pants handheld calculators
Simplify like this.

Reid as HC has played 24 games of which he's won 21.
Express your fraction thusly.

21
24

(Or 21 over 24 if you will)
Now, what prime number can 21 and 24 be divided by without a remainder?
If you answered "Three" than you'd be correct.

Three goes into 21 exactly seven times, and three goes into 24 exactly eight times.
21/24 can be simplified as 7/8.
Without cheating, divide eight by seven in your head, if that confuses you, you might want to look into a remedial math class.
Eight divided by seven = 0.875

So, if Andy Reid wins seven out eight games his w/l pct would be 87.5 percent.

Pop quiz on this after the weekend Billy Boy, dust off those math books and bone up on your fractions.

**OldBill** · 02-02-25, 01:45 AM

another lil 100% nugget
"Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes has had a lot of success against Fangio. As Ryan Hannable of BetMGM pointed out on X, Mahomes has a perfect 8-0 record and a 10-2 touchdown-to-interception ratio against Fangio-led defenses."
now to fin d out w hat ot he r teams vic was dfensive coordinator

vic fangio teams he was part of
Fangio's current job is his eighth separate defensive coordinator role with an NFL team, meaning that at some point, he's served in the role for 25 percent of the league. He's spent time with a total of 10 NFL franchises.
In 2023, the Eagles ranked 26th in total defense, collapsing with a first-round playoff exit after a strong start to the season. In Fangio's debut season as defensive coordinator, that changed — Philadelphia was the NFL's top unit in total defense in the regular season, also winning multiple playoff games.
well 8 differnt teams no superbowl wins also the other coordibators are rookies

2015-2018: Chicago Bears, Defensive coordinator
Fangio parted ways with the Dolphins after one season, setting up his current role.
After his 2022 stint as a consultant in Philadelphia, Fangio officially became the Eagles' defensive coordinator in January 2024.
Fangio's current job is his eighth separate defensive coordinator role with an NFL team, meaning that at some point, he's served in the role for 25 percent of the league. He's spent time with a total of 10 NFL franchises.
In 2023, the Eagles ranked 26th in total defense, collapsing with a first-round playoff exit after a strong start to the season. In Fangio's debut season as defensive coordinator, that changed — Philadelphia was the NFL's top unit in total defense in the regular season, also winning multiple playoff games.

his 3 years as debnvers head coach

record 19 wins 30 losses win percent .388

1st finished 2nd 7-9 then 4th 6-11 then 4th 7-10

**OldBill** · 02-02-25, 01:48 AM

ok nash thought it w as like 98% i know his fianl year with eagles when he lost his son he didint n eagles had bad year

**OldBill** · 02-02-25, 01:58 AM

teams fangio was part of

1986-1994: New Orleans Saints, Linebackers coach

1995-1998: Carolina Panthers, Defensive coordinator

1999-2001: Indianapolis Colts, Defensive coordinator

2002-2005: Houston Texas, Defensive coordinator

2006-2009: Baltimore Ravens, Defensive assistant and linebackers coach

2011-2014: San Francisco 49ers, Defensive coordinator

2015-2018: Chicago Bears, Defensive coordinator

2019-2021: Denver Broncos, Head coach

2023: Miami Dolphins, Defensive coordinator

2024-Present: Philadelphia Eagles, Defensive coordinator

After his 2022 stint as a consultant in Philadelphia, Fangio officially became the Eagles' defensive coordinator in January 2024.
Fangio's current job is his eighth separate defensive coordinator role with an NFL team, meaning that at some point, he's served in the role for 25 percent of the league. He's spent time with a total of 10 NFL franchises.

**Str8Mush4Life** · 02-02-25, 03:35 AM

Two QBs have played in the Super Bowl wearing #1.

Cam Newton and Hurts.

What a sample size, Bill - this is great stuff................

**Str8Mush4Life** · 02-02-25, 03:37 AM

Originally posted by stevenash

Pop quiz on this after the weekend Billy Boy, dust off those math books and bone up on your fractions.

How about he skips math class and learns some English first.

**OldBill** · 02-02-25, 04:41 PM

best way to get + money pick mvp of SB Mahoomes is +110 ty

Eagles are +105 on the ML

**stevenash** · 02-02-25, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by OldBill

ok nash thought it w as like 98% i know his fianl year with eagles when he lost his son he didint n eagles had bad year

I knew what you were talking about Bill, all good.
I've told you in the past, if I'm playfully breaking your stones here, I like you, and I do like you,
Now could you please do something about those walls of text.

**DJK** · 02-04-25, 06:33 AM

Originally posted by OldBill

another lil 100% nugget
"Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes has had a lot of success against Fangio. As Ryan Hannable of BetMGM pointed out on X, Mahomes has a perfect 8-0 record and a 10-2 touchdown-to-interception ratio against Fangio-led defenses."

That's all relative and does not mean shit.

I looked at those games and guess who the QB's were for Denver? 2nd string QBs if that.

Joe Flacco 1st game in 2019. Lost 30-6.
Drew Lock 2nd game in 2019. Lost 23-3.

Drew Lock 1st game in 2020. Lost 43-16.
Drew Lock 2nd game in 2020. Lost 22-16.

Teddy Bridgewater 1st game in 2021. Lost 22-9.
Drew Lock 2nd game in 2021. Lost 28-24.

Jalen Hurts is much better than any of those 3 useless QB's. They didn't have Saquon nor did they have defensive players that the Eagles have now. Philadelphia drafted mostly defensive players in the last couple of years and they did quite well with that. I just wish Nakobe Dean wasn't injured.

By the way Bill, you are in Philadelphia and you are betting against the Eagles? Come on now.

**DJK** · 02-04-25, 06:40 AM

I'm leaning to bet the Eagles but not on the ML or even the point spread. I'm looking to move the line to Eagles +3.5 -175.

What I don't like is the public betting percentages from ActionNetwork and ScoresandOdds, but their percentages are way off from what BetMGM is showing.

ActionNetwork - 30% Chiefs 70% Eagles.
Scoresandodds - 31% Chiefs 69% Eagles on the handle. 23% Chiefs 77% Eagles on $$$.
BetMGM - 53% Chiefs 47% Eagles on $$$.

So, someone's lying or those numbers could be regional and not the whole nation.

I'm sure the last minute bets are going to be on the Chiefs and if the bet percentages pretty much even out everywhere, then I will pull the trigger on the Eagles.

**stevenash** · 02-04-25, 07:19 AM

^
Passing on the side, but I love the under.

**Str8Mush4Life** · 02-04-25, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by DJK

That's all relative and does not mean shit.

I looked at those games and guess who the QB's were for Denver? 2nd string QBs if that.

Joe Flacco 1st game in 2019. Lost 30-6.
Drew Lock 2nd game in 2019. Lost 23-3.

Drew Lock 1st game in 2020. Lost 43-16.
Drew Lock 2nd game in 2020. Lost 22-16.

Teddy Bridgewater 1st game in 2021. Lost 22-9.
Drew Lock 2nd game in 2021. Lost 28-24.

Jalen Hurts is much better than any of those 3 useless QB's. They didn't have Saquon nor did they have defensive players that the Eagles have now. Philadelphia drafted mostly defensive players in the last couple of years and they did quite well with that. I just wish Nakobe Dean wasn't injured.

By the way Bill, you are in Philadelphia and you are betting against the Eagles? Come on now.

I'll bet Kansas City ML against my Birds and hope that that money burns this Sunday.............

To be fair, Bill did bet The Eagles two years ago. That was after he correctly predicted Kansas City to win the Super Bowl since week 1 with all of his stats and variables and voodoo curses. EVERY SINGLE WEEK he said Kansas City was the play to win the Super Bowl.

Then come game day he bet Philly for God knows what reason (it had NOTHING to do with team loyalty) and Kansas City won the SB as he had correctly predicted for months.

**stevenash** · 02-04-25, 09:22 AM

Yeah, Bill is OK.
Now can anybody show Bill where the caps key is on the keyboard?

**alecmatt5** · 02-04-25, 09:26 AM

That was a tough read. And I mean that literally. It was literally tough to read.

**alecmatt5** · 02-04-25, 09:33 AM

Originally posted by DJK

I'm leaning to bet the Eagles but not on the ML or even the point spread. I'm looking to move the line to Eagles +3.5 -175.

What I don't like is the public betting percentages from ActionNetwork and ScoresandOdds, but their percentages are way off from what BetMGM is showing.

ActionNetwork - 30% Chiefs 70% Eagles.
Scoresandodds - 31% Chiefs 69% Eagles on the handle. 23% Chiefs 77% Eagles on $$$.
BetMGM - 53% Chiefs 47% Eagles on $$$.

So, someone's lying or those numbers could be regional and not the whole nation.

I'm sure the last minute bets are going to be on the Chiefs and if the bet percentages pretty much even out everywhere, then I will pull the trigger on the Eagles.

John Murray (Westgate Superbook) said on a podcast something to the effect of 'the public is (or will be by kickoff) all over the Chiefs and that the sportsbook will need the Eagles'. Personally I think bet percentages mean absolutely nothing but if you're into that sort of thing it does seem that there is a bit of reverse line movement where the money is coming in on the Chiefs but the line is moving to the Eagles.

**stevenash** · 02-04-25, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by alecmatt5

That was a tough read. And I mean that literally. It was literally tough to read.

But that's what makes Bill, Bill.
He's one of ours Bill is, he puts the 'fun' in dysfunctional.

**DJK** · 02-04-25, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by alecmatt5

John Murray (Westgate Superbook) said on a podcast something to the effect of 'the public is (or will be by kickoff) all over the Chiefs and that the sportsbook will need the Eagles'. Personally I think bet percentages mean absolutely nothing but if you're into that sort of thing it does seem that there is a bit of reverse line movement where the money is coming in on the Chiefs but the line is moving to the Eagles.

I wasn't aware of that and can't really go against what the books need. LOL

Yeah, I think some of these sites those that provide the bet percentags are crooked providing some bullshit info.

I don't even know if BetMGM is providing accurate info either.

But, I must admit that going against the refs too isn't ideal.

**alecmatt5** · 02-04-25, 11:13 AM

Let me ask you this: If betting percentages provided ANY sort of advantage for the bettors, why would the sportsbook give out that information?

I think there's really only 2 logical explanations.

1. The betting percentages DON'T provide anything meaningful and sportsbooks give the information out as an illusion of giving helpful information. Personally this is what I believe.

2. The TRUE betting percentages do provide some sort of meaningful information that could help bettors, but rather the info they provide has been skewed to push the narrative that they want to push and therefore the information provided to the public isn't meaningful because it can't be trusted.

Either way, the result is the same. Just my 2 cents.

**DJK** · 02-04-25, 11:46 AM

Haven't you seen where the public is all over one side and the opposite covers?

To me, it matters more often when there is either one or two games only like the Conference Championship games. The public was all over Washington and Buffalo and they both lost ATS.

When there are lots of games, some public bets are winners and therefore they offset.

But I swear, when it's like one or two games only like the Super Bowl Sunday, it's always best to take the less publicly wagered side when it's totally lopsided. As of now at BetMGM, it's still showing 53% Chiefs and 47% Eagles.

Also, RLM matters and just can't go against it. If the bet percentags are accurate at ActionNetwork and Scoresandodds where over 70% is on the Eagles, and then the line moves down towards the Eagles near the game time, I will definitely be on the Eagles.

**stevenash** · 02-04-25, 11:58 AM

I was just chatting with one of the writers at VSIN on X, he tells me the Eagles have been getting some loving the past couple of days.

**alecmatt5** · 02-05-25, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by DJK

Haven't you seen where the public is all over one side and the opposite covers?

To me, it matters more often when there is either one or two games only like the Conference Championship games. The public was all over Washington and Buffalo and they both lost ATS.

When there are lots of games, some public bets are winners and therefore they offset.

But I swear, when it's like one or two games only like the Super Bowl Sunday, it's always best to take the less publicly wagered side when it's totally lopsided. As of now at BetMGM, it's still showing 53% Chiefs and 47% Eagles.

Also, RLM matters and just can't go against it. If the bet percentags are accurate at ActionNetwork and Scoresandodds where over 70% is on the Eagles, and then the line moves down towards the Eagles near the game time, I will definitely be on the Eagles.

Yes of course I have seen this. It happens roughly 50% of the time. Maybe to you it feels like it happens more often than it doesn't but I promise you that is just confirmation bias. If betting on sports were as simple as betting the 'sharp' side, then there would be a lot more winning bettors than there are in reality.

**OldBill** · 02-05-25, 02:18 PM

anot he r fact eagles season had 15 wins 2 losses well folks 10 wins were facking garbage Saints Giants Cowboys Browns jags carolina steeers bengals

another 100% fact no qb who had over 520 yrads rusing ever won a SB HURTS 665

the other losers were old eagles qb cunningham mike vc

**spiromoney23** · 02-05-25, 02:35 PM

solid angle

fading chiefs!

**DJK** · 02-06-25, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by spiromoney23

solid angle

fading chiefs!

LOL

Bill said the Eagles will lose and you are fading the Chiefs and taking the Eagles?

Did you even read what Bill said? Given that it's not an easy read.

**stevenash** · 02-06-25, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by DJK

LOL

Bill said the Eagles will lose and you are fading the Chiefs and taking the Eagles?

Did you even read what Bill said? Given that it's not an easy read.

I'm so confused.

**Str8Mush4Life** · 02-06-25, 06:27 PM

10 of those wins were penetrating garbage, good stuff Bill......

Saints opened up the season with two 40 point drubbings then got smacked with a reality check against the Birds in Week 3 but go on......

If the Eagles do win this game do you stop with your "no team has ever won the Super Bowl after losing to Tampa Bay in regular season" or does it become "only one team (actually two but New Orleans doesn't count because you say so the game didn't matter Bill) in the regular season?

**pimike** · 02-07-25, 08:42 AM

Thanks!!!!

**Itsamazing777** · 02-07-25, 01:00 PM

Just like when you said you would give 5k if Trump won?

**veriableodds** · 02-07-25, 02:06 PM

Thanks OB, Will decipher this stuff. Let me know when there is an app available!

**DJK** · 02-09-25, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by alecmatt5

John Murray (Westgate Superbook) said on a podcast something to the effect of 'the public is (or will be by kickoff) all over the Chiefs and that the sportsbook will need the Eagles'. Personally I think bet percentages mean absolutely nothing but if you're into that sort of thing it does seem that there is a bit of reverse line movement where the money is coming in on the Chiefs but the line is moving to the Eagles.

It sure is looking that way since The Action Network's bet percentages are practically even when they were 30/70 just yesterday.

Scoresandodds' bet percentages are also evening out.

So, I don't feel so bad about what I bet. Just hate to be on the same side as the public when it's lopsided.

**Eddy Munny** · 02-09-25, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Str8Mush4Life

10 of those wins were penetrating garbage, good stuff Bill......

Saints opened up the season with two 40 point drubbings then got smacked with a reality check against the Birds in Week 3 but go on......

If the Eagles do win this game do you stop with your "no team has ever won the Super Bowl after losing to Tampa Bay in regular season" or does it become "only one team (actually two but New Orleans doesn't count because you say so the game didn't matter Bill) in the regular season?

Bill is a rabid animal with his trends, refusing to let go even in the face of opposing evidence. He said no team has ever won a Super Bowl in their home stadium, discounting the Bucs and Rams because, well, they don't count. He also used to trumpet his "no team that's played in London ever won a SB" campaign, even though there was a team who did, but again, they don't count.

So in other words his angles are air tight because any counterexamples are discarded. It's bulletproof lol.

**stevenash** · 02-09-25, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by veriableodds

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**johnnyvegas13** · 02-09-25, 04:55 PM

In one word someone tell me who bill is on here

**Itsamazing777** · 02-09-25, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by johnnyvegas13

In one word someone tell me who bill is on here

He's on the chiefs. Fade away!