Pats Shaving Points?

**tblues2005** · 12-04-07, 09:10 AM

I think the teams are gunning for New England and they are doing their best to make sure they don't win every game this season. The other teams are figuring out New Englands weaknesses and going after them, their secondary is not that good and it has showed these past two games. I do believe that they have problems on defense since now they have allowed more than 24 points in the last two games.

**thagame24** · 12-04-07, 09:29 AM

tonight it was a few things:

1) pats were too stubborn offensively, should've thrown more screens and ran the ball more in the windy conditions.

2) the pats have alot of injuries in the secondary, and for some reason the useless media never talks about this. Maybe it will finally be mentioned this week.

3) I think the pats are bored right now. They've proved they're legit to everyone, and now they're going through a funk....they already have the division locked up, they know they're winning the #1 seed.....now that the perfect season is really within reach I expect them to come out of it sooner than later, but it might not be a bad idea to fade them for one more week with a very solid pitt squad getting 14.

**jackpot269** · 12-04-07, 09:35 AM

i think anything is possible, but your not going to keep pounding veges, like they got hit those last few covers that NE had. Its like the stock market thiers going to be a correction one way or the other. As for points shaving BB not going to take fine lying down, is he??????

**chano** · 12-04-07, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Belicheat gets caught in "cam-scam" the first week of the season, costing him a half-million fine. He then whips his team into a frenzy and the Pats go on an unprecedented run, simply destroying teams. That is until the last two weeks as oddsmakers react with lines in the 20's. Now all of a sudden they can only beat Philly and Balt by 3 each?

My theory is that Belicheat has made back his fine and then some the past two games by betting the huge dogs he faced. Laugh all you want....but just think about it awhile.

I like the way you are thinking...Although I dont think he (Belicheck)would jeopardize actulally losing the game. I really think they (NE) are having some problems offensively right now. If not, they would have blown away Philly and Balt. Average 40+ a game , last 2 games only 27.5. There is the diff in covering the spread or not...

**Cabo** · 12-04-07, 10:43 AM

If they are point shaving, wouldn't they only be winning by 14-17 points, instead of barely winning the game outright?

**UWinSports2k8** · 12-04-07, 11:16 AM

He wouldnt risk what he makes every year for a couple of games pointshaving.

**WileOut** · 12-04-07, 11:22 AM

The answer is definately no he is not point shaving. The Ravens said that this game was their superbowl. The windy conditions made it hard to pass. Moss and Watson both dropped TD passes right in their hands. Baltimore was able to run effectively. All these factors kept the game close.

**HedgeHog** · 12-04-07, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by WileOut

The answer is definately no he is not point shaving. The Ravens said that this game was their superbowl. The windy conditions made it hard to pass. Moss and Watson both dropped TD passes right in their hands. Baltimore was able to run effectively. All these factors kept the game close.

Funny you should mention the dropped TD passes. The conspiracy widens...

**Louisvillekid1** · 12-04-07, 02:18 PM

This is Ridic , give them credit for being one of the best ever. It's the NFL even players on the worst teams are still great football players.

**WileOut** · 12-04-07, 02:22 PM

Exactly louisvillekid, in the NFL anything can happen especially given the windy conditions last night.

**raydog** · 12-04-07, 02:29 PM

no point shaving, no need to take risks on brady getting hurt. and no need to worry about losing games when you know the officials and league are on your side..they could have saved themselves the exercise on 4th down cus no matter what the pats did, the officials were going to penalize the ravens....no matter what... and they were going to keep giving them 1st downs until they got it in. if you think differently, you are blinded by ignorance. pats dont lose this year. the league wants them to win.

**Tchocky** · 12-04-07, 02:30 PM

It sounds crazy but I guess it's possible. I think the Patriots have had a target on their backs and it's going getting bigger. Teams are really pumped up to play them and take them down. The Ravens played inspired football last night and almost pulled off the upset. The Pats have been struggling since their come back win against the Colts.

P.S. Didn't Ron Jaworski accuse Randy Moss of laying off plays last week against the Eagles?

**pokernut9999** · 12-04-07, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Funny you should mention the dropped TD passes. The conspiracy widens...

What a stupid statement.

**NEP Dynasty** · 12-04-07, 03:47 PM

You hit the nail on the head. Belichick is absolutely point shaving.

**HedgeHog** · 12-04-07, 04:18 PM

Again this is just a theory, no actual proof. I'm waiting for confirmation from a very reliable source. Tim Donaghy, please call me collect.

**HedgeHog** · 12-04-07, 04:34 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

What a stupid statement.

It happened in the NBA. The NFL is exempt?

**NEP Dynasty** · 12-04-07, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

It happened in the NBA. The NFL is exempt?

A coach was shaving points in the NBA? Must've missed that one.

**pokernut9999** · 12-04-07, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by NEP Dynasty

A coach was shaving points in the NBA? Must've missed that one.

You have to excuse Hedge , he had his head in the toilet much of his life.

**HedgeHog** · 12-04-07, 04:43 PM

A Ref, Tim Donaghy ,called enough fouls to make sure games went over, so as to collect his bets.

**hanco21** · 12-04-07, 04:49 PM

When money is on the line you can bet someone has there hands in it. You would be suprised by how many sports games are rigged.

**SlipperyRockBook** · 12-04-07, 04:56 PM

Agreed...

**HedgeHog** · 12-04-07, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by pokernut9999

You have to excuse Hedge , he had his head in the toilet much of his life.

Do you really play poker for a living; you can read people?

**Shark79** · 12-04-07, 05:07 PM

Hedge just learn to love the Pats!!

**m3vr6** · 12-04-07, 05:13 PM

i think the owner paid the fines for him. it's prob in his contract that if he gets fine by the league the owner pays for him. also if he were to bet say $50K or $100K per game, not many books will take that action and if so they would seek out who is behind it etc.. also do u think he would take more risks just trying to get back 500k? highly doubt it.

**Iwinyourmoney** · 12-04-07, 05:29 PM

I guarentee the organization gave him the $500k back. The owner is like "You do what it takes to win, Ill give you the money for the fine".

**HedgeHog** · 12-04-07, 05:55 PM

I'm thinking Belicheat gets serious this week and kicks Pitt's ass. Afterall, he's collected the past 2 weeks against his team, now he's got the line to a reasonable level. Pats win big this week.

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