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  • Ferrari355
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-18-18
    • 137

    #36
    I’d like to know which ones are the best to use? (As a Canadian if that matters) Also what do they typically charge for their services? Thanks.
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    • cornmeal
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-15-17
      • 220

      #37
      Fairlay
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      • asiagambler
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-23-17
        • 6831

        #38
        ps3838.com

        limits are about half what you would get at pinnacle
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        • bookie
          SBR MVP
          • 08-10-05
          • 2112

          #39
          And they follow KYC laws. You'll have to send them lots of ID to cash out, even using Bitcoin.
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          • Ferrari355
            SBR High Roller
            • 09-18-18
            • 137

            #40
            Man I live in Ontario and have access to Pinnacle but their max deposit limit is 3k… I’ve emailed them countless times how to deposit much more than that but they always say I can only use what’s available on the deposit page. Can anyone help me or know how to get more deposited???
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            • Ferrari355
              SBR High Roller
              • 09-18-18
              • 137

              #41
              Originally posted by bookie
              And they follow KYC laws. You'll have to send them lots of ID to cash out, even using Bitcoin.
              FYI: Your mailbox is full so I can’t reply.
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              • Ferrari355
                SBR High Roller
                • 09-18-18
                • 137

                #42
                Pinnacle Large Bettors…?

                I live in Ontario so Pinnacle forced me to switch my account to a regulated Ontario one. I have no issues with this but now their deposit limits are only 3K. I can’t remember what my limits were prior to the change. I’ve emailed them countless times on how to deposit a large amount and they keep saying that my only options are what my deposit page says. Isn’t Pinnacle known for taking the largest best? Anyone know what I can do?? Thanks.
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                • Optional
                  Administrator
                  • 06-10-10
                  • 60672

                  #43
                  I think the only way to get deposit limits raised will be to provide Source of Funds (SoF) and Source of Wealth (SoW) evidence that show you can afford to gamble at a higher level from a legally provable money source.

                  You might need to show a very high income or wealth level to support the size deposits you sound like you might be talking about.

                  I'm also not aware of anyone reaching out to them to get this done and it happening. It's always them coming to the player when we turn over more than an average income earner could afford.

                  Maybe just show them how much you want to deposit by making multiple 3k transfers or daily deposits or whatever they will allow as the max. That should make them come to you.

                  But I would not do that unless you can supply that KYC info for sure.
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                  • Ferrari355
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 09-18-18
                    • 137

                    #44
                    Is this because I live in Ontario which is licensed now? Let’s say I wasn’t from Ontario and in another province do you think I would be limited too? How do all the big bettors get enough money in there? This is extremely frustrating.
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                    • kakad
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 03-22-20
                      • 53

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Ferrari355
                      Is this because I live in Ontario which is licensed now? Let’s say I wasn’t from Ontario and in another province do you think I would be limited too? How do all the big bettors get enough money in there? This is extremely frustrating.
                      Yes. I am not in Ontario and I have no daily deposit limit (at least not that I am aware of). That being said, I've never tried sending in 50K of Bitcoin. Doing so would probably trigger a SOW or SOF request and possibly lead to deposit limits. So for the time being you can either move, or win some bets to build up your account balance?
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                      • newton0038
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-07-07
                        • 2367

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Ferrari355
                        I live in Ontario so Pinnacle forced me to switch my account to a regulated Ontario one. I have no issues with this but now their deposit limits are only 3K. I can’t remember what my limits were prior to the change. I’ve emailed them countless times on how to deposit a large amount and they keep saying that my only options are what my deposit page says. Isn’t Pinnacle known for taking the largest best? Anyone know what I can do?? Thanks.
                        Can u mulit deposit or is it a daily limit? Their payment page has Mcard and V isa 7k limit
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                        • newton0038
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-07-07
                          • 2367

                          #47
                          Do remember Pinny requires a 3x rollover prior to withdrawal or its a 10% fee.
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                          • bookie
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-10-05
                            • 2112

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Ferrari355
                            FYI: Your mailbox is full so I can’t reply.
                            Thanks for the heads up. I deleted a bunch so should be able to receive messages now.
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                            • Ferrari355
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 09-18-18
                              • 137

                              #49
                              Originally posted by kakad
                              Yes. I am not in Ontario and I have no daily deposit limit (at least not that I am aware of). That being said, I've never tried sending in 50K of Bitcoin. Doing so would probably trigger a SOW or SOF request and possibly lead to deposit limits. So for the time being you can either move, or win some bets to build up your account balance?
                              Which province are you in? Would you mind screenshoting what your deposit page looks like? I don’t even have a Bitcoin option ffs. (You can PM me if easier) Appreciate your help.
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                              • Ferrari355
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 09-18-18
                                • 137

                                #50
                                Originally posted by newton0038
                                Can u mulit deposit or is it a daily limit? Their payment page has Mcard and V isa 7k limit
                                I’m not sure if I can do multi deposits. Either way 3K is no where near what I want to put in so it’s pointless. My v/mcard limit is only $700. Prior to switching an Ontario licensed account any credit card I would put in would always get declined because v/mcard didn’t want to do business with gambling websites. Not sure if they are willing now because it’s licensed.
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                                • kakad
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 03-22-20
                                  • 53

                                  #51


                                  This is what my deposit page looks like. The limits are per transaction in my experience as in the past I have made multiple transactions in a 24H period that cumulatively exceed these limits.
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                                  • Ferrari355
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 09-18-18
                                    • 137

                                    #52
                                    Wow nice. I like USDT ERC 20 whatever that is. I was expecting you to have a wire option too. What province are you from if you don’t mind me asking.
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                                    • Optional
                                      Administrator
                                      • 06-10-10
                                      • 60672

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Ferrari355

                                      I’m not sure if I can do multi deposits. Either way 3K is no where near what I want to put in so it’s pointless. My v/mcard limit is only $700. Prior to switching an Ontario licensed account any credit card I would put in would always get declined because v/mcard didn’t want to do business with gambling websites. Not sure if they are willing now because it’s licensed.
                                      Card companies love gamblers as they can charge us cash advance fees.
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                                      • Maikiti
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-06-23
                                        • 10

                                        #54
                                        There is no best one. Everyone had their advantages. Most Reliable for me are PremiumTradings and Sportmarket. They work as a middleman, like you said, they provide you with direct account or platform where is integrated with many sportsbooks in one place. They making money only from the commission for the traffic they generate to the sportsbooks and exchanges. They will charge you very little for using their services, some of them had fees for Withdrawals and Deposits, if one broker don't have fees for these, so that mean they will have bigger fees for something else. Just because they are don't like the bookies, they are making money only from fees. So it's good to know.

                                        I can assure you won't have a any problem with these two brokers, but NEVER open account with Bet-IBC or their relatives, they are well-known with their scammy practices.
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 60672

                                          #55
                                          I was going to ignore this thread, as there is no longer any trustworhy agent, as well as OrbitX's involvement in fake bets draining so many customer accounts.

                                          But to say the outright thieves at PremiumTradings are RELIABLE is crazy.


                                          No one here even think about PremiumTradings please. They are the #1 worst for unfairness and stealing from players of all known agents.
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                                          • Maikiti
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 02-06-23
                                            • 10

                                            #56
                                            It's your opinion, I have my own experience, for the past 3 years haven't any issues with them, with the other brokeri mentioned , so far so good, everything fine. When you don't like them, it's not okay to mark them as Worst, especially when there is agents like Bet-ibc, which charge you for log-in into your account.
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                                            • Alfie White
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-02-17
                                              • 680

                                              #57
                                              Well Maikiti, I would rather stand with Opti on this one as you can't know how many complaints he got for PremiumTradings in the previous period. You are fairly new here, and whilst it is amazing that you want to be a part of the conversation and share your experiences (reckon that everyone would be far better off if everyone would share experiences - equally good and bad), there is still something you would need to learn. But again, I have to oppose Opti on the other part and commend Sportmarket as they have been top notch for the 4+ years I have been using them and I don't recall ever seeing any complaint for them/their practises during my SRB lifetime.
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                                              • kursonik
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 04-07-20
                                                • 66

                                                #58
                                                I have dealt with many brokers but PremiumTradings is the worst of them, hidden fees, high spread on cryptocurrencies, delaying withdrawals indefinitely...this is something I experienced firsthand.

                                                Unfortunately, using the services of brokers now is a rollercoaster ride, I dream of a legal game on betfair and paying even high PCs.
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                                                • infotimbo
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-24-18
                                                  • 837

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Alfie White
                                                  But again, I have to oppose Opti on the other part and commend Sportmarket as they have been top notch for the 4+ years I have been using them and I don't recall ever seeing any complaint for them/their practises during my SRB lifetime.
                                                  I agree. I use different ones (to avoid having all money in one boat), but Sportmarket is the one I personally feel best with. Never had any issues, nor heard about anything fishy.

                                                  They also don't offer Orbit accounts, by the way. So whatever is going on there, Sportmarket is not part of it.
                                                  Last edited by infotimbo; 02-21-23, 07:37 AM.
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                                                  • Optional
                                                    Administrator
                                                    • 06-10-10
                                                    • 60672

                                                    #60
                                                    I have no evidence to criticize sportsmarket directly. I was meaning to focus on PT.

                                                    But with all the problems, coming at all levels (originator/whitelabel/agent), I do think it has come to the point that it's very hard to have confidence in recommending any grey market agent. The system appears to be near broken.
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                                                    • infotimbo
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 10-24-18
                                                      • 837

                                                      #61
                                                      I wouldn't go that far, but you need to be aware that it can come with a risk, yeah.

                                                      But when the choice is to bet through an agent or not at all, there's not really much else you can do.
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                                                      • biggie12
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 12-30-05
                                                        • 13781

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Optional
                                                        I was going to ignore this thread, as there is no longer any trustworhy agent, as well as OrbitX's involvement in fake bets draining so many customer accounts.

                                                        But to say the outright thieves at PremiumTradings are RELIABLE is crazy.


                                                        No one here even think about PremiumTradings please. They are the #1 worst for unfairness and stealing from players of all known agents.
                                                        come.on guy has 4 posts and plugs a scam site u know better optional.
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                                                        • Poisec
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-22-18
                                                          • 1215

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by kursonik
                                                          I have dealt with many brokers but PremiumTradings is the worst of them, hidden fees, high spread on cryptocurrencies, delaying withdrawals indefinitely...this is something I experienced firsthand.
                                                          Sounds like Bet-IBC they are the worst in the business.
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                                                          • Ferrari355
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 09-18-18
                                                            • 137

                                                            #64
                                                            That wasn’t my experience at all. I called my credit card company when I kept on getting rejected and they said they don’t deal with gambling sites at all. This was 4-5 years ago.
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                                                            • Ferrari355
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 09-18-18
                                                              • 137

                                                              #65
                                                              Hey guys we got off track a little bit here lol I’m new to all these agent services but I don’t understand why anyone would use them? I just learned they charge 3-4% fees on winnings so isn’t that another unneeded expense on trying to profit sports betting which is already hard to do? The only thing I can think of is if you don’t have access to Pinnacle and their reduced juice. Not sure why anyone would us an agent if you’re going to have to pay a fee on already paying -110. Am I missing something? Sorry for the newbie questions.
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                                                              • iwantcougars
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-29-09
                                                                • 2156

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Ferrari355
                                                                Hey guys we got off track a little bit here lol I’m new to all these agent services but I don’t understand why anyone would use them? I just learned they charge 3-4% fees on winnings so isn’t that another unneeded expense on trying to profit sports betting which is already hard to do? The only thing I can think of is if you don’t have access to Pinnacle and their reduced juice. Not sure why anyone would us an agent if you’re going to have to pay a fee on already paying -110. Am I missing something? Sorry for the newbie questions.
                                                                banned/limited players
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                                                                • Ferrari355
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 09-18-18
                                                                  • 137

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by iwantcougars
                                                                  banned/limited players
                                                                  Ahhh that’s one reason that I never thought of. Has anyone here ever heard of anyone being banned or limited at Pinnacle directly?
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                                                                  • infotimbo
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 10-24-18
                                                                    • 837

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Ferrari355
                                                                    Ahhh that’s one reason that I never thought of. Has anyone here ever heard of anyone being banned or limited at Pinnacle directly?
                                                                    it happens very rarely I think, but in many countries direct accounts (same as Betfair, for example) are not available anymore. Nor many other decent books that don't limit you after a couple of weeks.
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                                                                    • Alfie White
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 09-02-17
                                                                      • 680

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Ferrari355
                                                                      Hey guys we got off track a little bit here lol I’m new to all these agent services but I don’t understand why anyone would use them? I just learned they charge 3-4% fees on winnings so isn’t that another unneeded expense on trying to profit sports betting which is already hard to do?
                                                                      Where did you get that number from? I wouldn't say it is true by any means, only fees that I've seen are in the range of 0.5% or so, 3-4% is crazy and I don't think I would be using a broker if that was correct.
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                                                                      • Ferrari355
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 09-18-18
                                                                        • 137

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I am clueless but someone on here told me it’s 3-4%. Can you please explain to me how going through an agent works? I can send them money and from that pool you can get down action on all the books they support? If the commission is indeed 0.5% how does that work? Example if I lost $10,000 bet on Pinnacle @ -105 they would take $10,500 and the agent would take $50 from my balance?
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