Ontario Pinnacle Account

**Ferrari355** · 02-28-23, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Al Masters

Nice which province?

**Al Masters** · 02-28-23, 02:21 PM

Montreal Quebec

**stackz125** · 02-28-23, 02:36 PM

I do
From BC
Why u ask?

**Ferrari355** · 02-28-23, 05:16 PM

Is Pinnacle limiting you on how much you can deposit? Ever since they turned my account to a licensed one a lot of my deposit options we gone and the ones that remained are 3k max.

**Ferrari355** · 02-28-23, 05:31 PM

Hey everyone, sorry but I’m totally new to this and very clueless. At the end of the day I should try my hardest to try to fund my account directly with Pinnacle right? I’m thinking I should be able to from any other province than Ontario (only province licensed right now) I just find that Pinnacle mets both my needs of being able to put down large bets and reduced juice. All the other ways just seem like a big headache, way less safe and when you add fees I might as well just bet in Vegas.

I’m also wondering how the big boys / high rollers get down large bets. I assume they claim they are from a country that Pinnacle doesn’t care or limit how much you can deposit.

**Ferrari355** · 02-28-23, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by kursonik

I am really surprised that you are surprised that brokers charge 3-4% commission on the winning part of bets on exchanges like Orbitxch/Piwi. After all, Betfair, whose betting exchanges are a clone, charges even more (I gave you the link).

You really don't know how it works?

1. You register on the broker's website.
2. You pay e.g. 200 Euro.
3. Your balance with the broker is currently 200 Euro.
4. You request an Orbitx or Piwi or Winfair24 account (with broker of course).
5. The broker creates an Orbitxch account for you.
6. On the broker's website, you transfer from the broker's balance to your Orbitxch account or the broker does it for you.
7. Your broker account balance is currently 0 Euros.
8. Your Orbitxch account balance is currently 200 Euros.
9. You place a bet on the BACK side for 200 Euro at the odds of 1.20.
10. You win this bet.
11. Orbitxch settles this bet and your balance is €240.
12. At the same time, commission is charged 3% of the winning part of the bet (or other % depending on the broker) - 0.03 x 40 Euro = 1.20 Euro.
13. Your current balance is 240 Euro - 1.20 Euro = 238.80 Euro.
14. You are ready for another bet.

There are many nuances like liquidity with individual brokers, risk with individual brokers, but first I suggest you understand the basics.

Hi Kursonik, thank you for taking the time to give me this step by step detailed reply. I still don’t fully grasp it 100% but I’m much closer thanks to you. Im sure once I’ve tried using an agent once it will be comically easy how it works.

**Camma23** · 03-02-23, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by randomuser

Can you tell me something about their "Black" (mollybet) platform?

Nope, would never try their back platform. Especially after this bad experience with their skype betting service.

I quote other users' feedback on Sportmarket. 100% trusted agent if you need molly

**Ferrari355** · 03-07-23, 10:52 PM

Anyone here have a Pinnacle account?

I am curious to know what deposit options and limits they are offering other people. Thanks.

**flyingillini** · 03-07-23, 11:00 PM

Yes. Best book in the business. I use it as my primary book. I deposit using Bitcoin. My limits are different in each sport. They limited me in V league soccer but all other sports limits are normal / high

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 12:45 AM

Plot twist… I talked to the head of igaming Ontario and he straight out told me they don’t have any deposit limits for operators in any way meaning that Pinnacle could allow anything they want.

**cobra_king** · 03-08-23, 01:44 AM

Igaming Ontario also sided with a sportsbook that went completely against it's own rules in regards to the NFL futures market when the Bills/Bengals game was cancelled.

It's hard to take what they say at face value after that.

**stackz125** · 03-08-23, 04:29 AM

He is wondering about your limits in terms of deposits

**flyingillini** · 03-08-23, 04:39 AM

Originally posted by stackz125

He is wondering about your limits in terms of deposits

He is in Canada so his deposits are different than mine. I can get 50k down on a game or more , limited to $1,000 on V league soccer

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 08:07 AM

Stack and Fly are both right. I’m just trying to figure out how to deposit a large amount into my Pinnacle account. Extremely aggravating. Seems like anyone in Canada that’s not in Ontario or anyone in another country they allow can easily deposit 100K plus. If anyone else can chime in with their Pinnacle deposit options/limits or advice I’m all ears.

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by cobra_king

Igaming Ontario also sided with a sportsbook that went completely against it's own rules in regards to the NFL futures market when the Bills/Bengals game was cancelled.

It's hard to take what they say at face value after that.

I assume you’re from Ontario too. Do you have a Pinnacle account? If so do you mind sharing your deposit options/limits?

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 08:14 AM

Pinnacle shows me the max bets for any game I choose. NFL average is 75-100K, NBA average is 30-50K, NHL average is 15-25K yet they will only let me deposit 3K… so dumb.

**cobra_king** · 03-08-23, 02:59 PM

My deposit limits are the same as yours. 3k via Idebit, Interac, and Much Better, $2,500k with Instadebit. Anyone else I know who has a pinnacle account that was transferred over upon regulation has the same situation.

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 04:35 PM

Yup that’s EXACTLY what I have too. Do you also have a credit card option for $700?

Why are we being punished just because the account is now licensed? igaming Ontario assures me they are not forcing Pinnacle to limit deposits.

**Optional** · 03-08-23, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Ferrari355

Plot twist… I talked to the head of igaming Ontario and he straight out told me they don’t have any deposit limits for operators in any way meaning that Pinnacle could allow anything they want.

No regulator sets deposit limits. They all avoid telling books how to run their business to avoid finger pointing if things go South.

But they do require their licensees to follow AML and Responsible Gambling guidelines which do insist books should not allow customers to gamble more than an average income earner could afford, without checking on the source of money and wealth of the player.

And if Pinnacle are limiting all Ontario players to $3000 deposits at a time, you can sure AGCO has discussed that amount with them as what is considered reasonable in Ont. Whatever the head of igaming told you.

From day one you were advised to deposit $3000 as often as they would let you until they come to you to do these checks. That is your solution.

SBR admin has already warned you about asking shady questions and interrogating people by PM whilst volunteering zero information about why a "newbie" is so desperate to deposit 300k all at once.

Just so you are 100% aware. We do not allow discussions of criminal activity here. Stop making threads or sending people PMs about this. You have your legal answers.

If you still think Pinnacle are not following the rules or discriminating against you, submit a formal complaint with AGCO.

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 06:47 PM

Hahahaha you are worse than Pinnacle. Stop being so paranoid. You automatically assume because I want to deposit a large amount into the biggest offshore sports book in the world I’m a criminal? If I want to bet 50K per game I should only deposit 50K at a time? Yes I admit I am clueless but I really don’t see how you can come to this conclusion. Please inform me how depositing a large amount into a sports book is shady? (Serious question) I honestly don’t care at all about a strangers opinion but it’s quite insulting and very presumptuous.

How am I interrogating anyone or being shady by simply asking for genuine guidance. Yes I’ve PM’d anyone who mentioned they have a Pinnacle account to try to see if I can get any potential solution to my issue with Pinnacle. I have put in a lot of work the last 3-4 years researching and learning everything I could about this industry and finding cappers who seem to win year after year. I would never of thought not being able to deposit money into a sports book would ruin everything for me.

I’m not sure how you can’t see why I am extremely frustrated. Before my account became a licensed one I could deposit anything I wanted. Anyone who lives in Canada outside Ontario can deposit anything they want. Anyone living in a country that Pinnacle accepts can deposit anything they want. I can take a 10 minute drive into Quebec and then I could deposit anything I want. This just doesn’t make sense in my brain. It’s like we are going backwards and being punished for doing nothing wrong. My PokerStars account lets me deposit more than what Pinnacle is offering for crying out loud.

In your professional opinion if I were to show Pinnacle legitimate source of funds of 10M should they give me a more practical option or should I have to deposit 3K for 100 days straight? In my mind latter seems way more sketchy vs just letting me send a wire for 300k.

**Optional** · 03-08-23, 08:01 PM

Dude, you have been interrogating people by PM. And asking sus questions.

I already advised you once that we cannot help with how to break the law or book rules, and do not allow discussions about it.

I've also already given you the proper solution to your problem three or four times. Start depositing 3k at a time as often as you can and PINNY WILL COME TO YOU and discuss deposit limits.

You made half a dozen threads including ones suggesting you want to buy other people's accounts. Andy should have just banned your ass immediately.

I don't care if you are frustrated or think I am paranoid. You are going to be booted real soon if you don't smarten up and get with the program.

How about you explain why a "newbie" as you call yourself so desperately wants to deposit over quarter million dollars, so we have some reason to think we are not assisting criminal activity and maybe the conversation can move forward. But for now, just stop. You have the right advice already.

**Optional** · 03-08-23, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Ferrari355

In your professional opinion if I were to show Pinnacle legitimate source of funds of 10M should they give me a more practical option or should I have to deposit 3K for 100 days straight? In my mind latter seems way more sketchy vs just letting me send a wire for 300k.

Yes.

Come back and let us know if you make it to your hypothetical 100 days straight. But why only once a day? Deposit as much as you can as fast as you can. I'd guess a few weeks max it will take.

Sheesh, I am starting to feel like a broken record saying the same thing to you so often now.

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 09:56 PM

Lies. Asking valid questions is not interrogating or sus.

Brought up a beard account only to say it’s not allowed.

You don’t get to be Hitler. Your solution is beyond ridiculous.

Never once said I wanted to buy one. Embarrassing.

Omg please don’t ban me

Already did

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 09:59 PM

Yes I can do it my easy way yet triple downs on doing it his ridiculous way.

**Ferrari355** · 03-08-23, 10:07 PM

iDebit has a 3000 CAD limit per transaction per 24 hoursInstadebit has a 2500CAD limit per 24 hours and a 12.500CAD limit per month. Interac has a 3000CAD limit per 24 hours.

=100 days

**hehfest** · 03-10-23, 12:44 AM

Originally posted by Ferrari355

They set me up with a $200/month deposit limit. What a joke.

They're scared.

**Optional** · 03-10-23, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by hehfest

They're scared.

Pinnacle scared of a big mouth self described "newbie" you reckon?

If he is legit he could get what he wants by doing what he was advised to do days ago.

So either he is not legit, or is simply too stupid/stubborn to work within the system.

**Ferrari355** · 03-11-23, 02:09 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Pinnacle scared of a big mouth self described "newbie" you reckon?

If he is legit he could get what he wants by doing what he was advised to do days ago.

So either he is not legit, or is simply too stupid/stubborn to work within the system.

The only stupid one here is you for continuing to think your suggestion is a good one. If I am legit? Should I apologize that you are a forum moderator that doesn’t deal with this type of money. You are so closed-minded and/or ignorant by thinking that anyone that deals with this type of money is automatically doing something illegal. At the end of the day I emailed the CEO with my concerns and she’s currently looking after me.

**Optional** · 03-11-23, 02:59 AM

I'm glad to hear you sorted out your problem. Congrats.

See, there was no need for the 5 threads and creepy PMs to people after all!

**nbaprofosor** · 03-21-23, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Ferrari355

Hi everyone if anyone knows a Pinnacle agent located in Canada can you please shoot me a PM. Appreciate your time. Thanks.

Hey bro . I just saw your PM and couldn’t replay because your PM unable I guess.

**povis** · 03-27-23, 10:49 AM

Pinnacle asked for proof of address so I posted bank statement and they keep rejecting it all info is valid recent and accurate. Don't get it at all.

**jim** · 08-08-23, 07:57 PM

posted in another thread in this forum, was a member of pinnacle since they went online, almost 25 years, was forced to switch to pinnacle ontario.

had hell of a time getting my documents accepted, finally they did. bet for just over a weekend, increased my bankroll by something like 30%, not going to look up exact figures. comes the morning, log in and account locked. ''sorry, we need to verify blah blah blah ...'' and I reply I've already been verified, why are you starting this again, and they totally played stupid, ''you need to send us blah blah blah ...''

was never able to get my account unlocked again, finally just gave up and got my money out and closed the account. not the only fish in the sea ...

**Optional** · 08-08-23, 08:06 PM

I think that they must have accepted your KYC docs if they paid you out. As they should not do that if they haven't.

**jim** · 08-08-23, 08:14 PM

they never unlocked it ...

**T100** · 08-08-23, 08:16 PM

quit pinny bout 6-7 yrs ago b/c of what I am reading here! was with them for yrs heading into the 2016 nfl season, then they cleaned house, brought in new managers, who then proceeded to re-verify everyone. I jumped all the hoops and re-verified, then they pulled the verify your account schtick again around march madness. fugem, I walked after about 3-4 emails. never looked back!!