"The Safety" is the stupidest rule in the NFL.

[Nicky Santoro]

I am watching the PIT game.. I am mad now.. I want PIT to win. I have em -3.5. SD has ball on 3rd and long from own 1.. next play, he gets sacked in end zone.. I was pissed.. i get 2 pts and now trail 7-2 and SD punt from own 20 now.. I end up with ball on own 8 and down 7-2.

Had they not sacked him.. SD would be punting ball from deep deep in end zone and i'd probably have ball on SD 32 yd line instead and down 7-0..

What do you prefer, down 7-0 on SD 32?
OR
down 7-2 and on own 8?


Am i the only one that hates getting safety instead of having team punt from deep end zone? I'll take the deep end zone punt instead of 2 measly pts.

I think this safety rule is silly.. Do you agree?

[bigboydan]

Any points in your favor are good points Mr.Nicky.

[Richkas]

I am watching the PIT game.. I am mad now.. I want PIT to win. I have em -3.5. SD has ball on 3rd and long from own 1.. next play, he gets sacked in end zone.. I was pissed.. i get 2 pts and now trail 7-2 and SD punt from own 20 now.. I end up with ball on own 8 and down 7-2.

Had they not sacked him.. SD would be punting ball from deep deep in end zone and i'd probably have ball on SD 32 yd line instead and down 7-0..

What do you prefer, down 7-0 on SD 32?
OR
down 7-2 and on own 8?


Am i the only one that hates getting safety instead of having team punt from deep end zone? I'll take the deep end zone punt instead of 2 measly pts.

I think this safety rule is silly.. Do you agree?

Stick to hockey or whatever it is you guys do up there.

[AMBlai01]

Couldn't disagree more. I think its great, it rewards teams for great defense and it adds another element to the game.

[betplom]

I am watching the PIT game.. I am mad now.. I want PIT to win. I have em -3.5. SD has ball on 3rd and long from own 1.. next play, he gets sacked in end zone.. I was pissed.. i get 2 pts and now trail 7-2 and SD punt from own 20 now.. I end up with ball on own 8 and down 7-2.

Had they not sacked him.. SD would be punting ball from deep deep in end zone and i'd probably have ball on SD 32 yd line instead and down 7-0..

What do you prefer, down 7-0 on SD 32?
OR
down 7-2 and on own 8?


Am i the only one that hates getting safety instead of having team punt from deep end zone? I'll take the deep end zone punt instead of 2 measly pts.

I think this safety rule is silly.. Do you agree?

I agree, football is a silly game.

[Panic]

Agree with BBD. Points on the board is a good thing. It was no gauruantee that they score in that weather, even sarting at the opponents 35 yardline or closer.

[WileOut]

He kicked a 72 yard punt? No pressure on him I understand but wow.

I think safeties should be 4 points instead of 2 and kicking from own 20. Just because its so hard to get a safety. 2 points doesn't reward it enough. Maybe it should even be like a TD. 6 points and an extra point pending.

I agree they are not rewarded enough.

[Nicky Santoro]

Couldn't disagree more. I think its great, it rewards teams for great defense and it adds another element to the game.

it's 2 pts, but i lost 60 yds out of it.. i would have automatically been in FG range had I not got the safety. so right there, i am ahead of the 7-2.. 95% minimum 7-3.. and maybe even 7-7 now.

I am never happy when i get a safety.. unless of course it's late in game and the 2 pts would make me cover now..

[bigboydan]

it's 2 pts, but i lost 60 yds out of it.. i would have automatically been in FG range

Even if that's true it doesn't guarantee a FG by any means.

[Nicky Santoro]

He kicked a 72 yard punt? No pressure on him I understand but wow.

I think safeties should be 4 points instead of 2 and kicking from own 20. Just because its so hard to get a safety. 2 points doesn't reward it enough. Maybe it should even be like a TD. 6 points and an extra point pending.

I agree they are not rewarded enough.

thank you, wiler..

finally, an accurate post in this thread.. no offence boys..

[ertl09]

normally when they punt the ball back teams end up around their own 40 or near midfield. It just happened in this case that their was a penalty

[Richkas]

Maybe on personal fouls the player should sit out 2 minutes and they could play 11 on 10. You guys would like that right?

[pico]

the one pt rules is the stupiest rule in cfl

[daggerkobe]

the tuck rule will always be the dumbest.

[WileOut]

Maybe on personal fouls the player should sit out 2 minutes and they could play 11 on 10. You guys would like that right?

That would be cool richie. I like this idea.

The defense would obviously have to keep the long ball protection there so this would be exploited mostly by the offense with the advantage running the ball with only 6 in the box. Or sometime the D would gamble and put 7 in the box leaving 3 DB's. You could then audible into a spread offense though and that would be trouble.

[rm18]

I am watching the PIT game.. I am mad now.. I want PIT to win. I have em -3.5. SD has ball on 3rd and long from own 1.. next play, he gets sacked in end zone.. I was pissed.. i get 2 pts and now trail 7-2 and SD punt from own 20 now.. I end up with ball on own 8 and down 7-2.

Had they not sacked him.. SD would be punting ball from deep deep in end zone and i'd probably have ball on SD 32 yd line instead and down 7-0..

What do you prefer, down 7-0 on SD 32?
OR
down 7-2 and on own 8?


Am i the only one that hates getting safety instead of having team punt from deep end zone? I'll take the deep end zone punt instead of 2 measly pts.

I think this safety rule is silly.. Do you agree?

It was a fluke kick, average start after a safety is like own 40 yard line, nothing wrong with the rules.

[mathdotcom]

richkas mocks hockey fans, but has a couple NHL picks for today?
Blues are not winning, and I don't think Sharks will either

[donjuan]

The free kick following the safety should be taken from the goal line IMO.

[Richkas]

richkas mocks hockey fans, but has a couple NHL picks for today?
Blues are not winning, and I don't think Sharks will either

I just think its funny how its Canada's featured sport but must be played in the USA to make money

[Nicky Santoro]

The free kick following the safety should be taken from the goal line IMO.

i can live with this... but to be rewarded for a sack in the end zone and only get 2 pts and have ball on own 30 is not good.. i'd rather have them kick from very deep end zone and have ball on their 32 and in FG range and down 7-0 instead of 7-2..

[Richkas]

i can live with this... but to be rewarded for a sack in the end zone and only get 2 pts and have ball on own 30 is not good.. i'd rather have them kick from very deep end zone and have ball on their 32 and in FG range and down 7-0 instead of 7-2..

There is no such thing as god.

[mathdotcom]

Might have something to do with the US having 10x the population?

Moron.

Canada has 2x the number of teams per capita than the states

[Richkas]

Might have something to do with the US having 10x the population?

Moron.

Canada has 2x the number of teams per capita than the states

You gotta love the internet

[mathdotcom]

Gotta love being right

[joe the gambler]

Why do you assume they start from the SD 32, or anywhere around there? If he kicked 72 yards on the free punt (or however long it was with the penalty), then why is he only kicking 31 yards if there is no safety? If you're going to assume it's a 31 yard punt then you have to assume you'd get the ball on the PIT 49 after the free punt also. I would take being down 7-2 and having the ball on my own 49 over being down 7-0 and having the ball on the SD 32. Obviously it is easier to kick further on the free punt with no pressure in his face, but still you can't assume the kick would be 40 yards less. The only thing I hate about safeties is that they **** with the numbers as two is an odd number in a football game.

One question though. If you want to get rid of the safety, what do you purpose they do when there is a sack or tackle in the endzone? Something has to happen in that scenario and there is no way you can award the defense a touchdown and 6 points.

Also to a different poster: Hockey is a great sport, no reason to trash it. Great sport to watch and an ever better sport to play.

[Richkas]

Gotta love being right

The shithole cant support a professional hockey league that pays its players enough to stay home. I never said they werent good players. Hell the USA loves to watch ignorant grown men beat the hell out of each other chasing a little rubber puck around. Its like bare knuckle fighting. Exciting to watch for entertainment.

[nick2060]

k i think itd be an awesome rule if a safety automatically gave you the team who sacks the qb or w.e to get the ball on the 20 yard line of the opponent

[mathdotcom]

Again, it's because of the small population, not that interest is lacking. I never claimed that you said Canadians weren't good hockey players.

How are hockey players more ignorant than Harlem High dropouts chasing an air-filled piece of leather? Every sport can be described in simple terms like that.

And it is bareknuckle fighting. Wow, and you bet this sport??

[Nicky Santoro]

Why do you assume they start from the SD 32, or anywhere around there? If he kicked 72 yards on the free punt (or however long it was with the penalty), then why is he only kicking 31 yards if there is no safety? If you're going to assume it's a 31 yard punt then you have to assume you'd get the ball on the PIT 49 after the free punt also. I would take being down 7-2 and having the ball on my own 49 over being down 7-0 and having the ball on the SD 32. Obviously it is easier to kick further on the free punt with no pressure in his face, but still you can't assume the kick would be 40 yards less. The only thing I hate about safeties is that they **** with the numbers as two is an odd number in a football game.

One question though. If you want to get rid of the safety, what do you purpose they do when there is a sack or tackle in the endzone? Something has to happen in that scenario and there is no way you can award the defense a touchdown and 6 points.

Also to a different poster: Hockey is a great sport, no reason to trash it. Great sport to watch and an ever better sport to play.

a punt from deep in end zone doesnt ever include the 10 or so yds from end zone.. so if it 40 yd punt, it really is 50 yd punt, but only counts as 40 from end zone. .. plus on end zone punts, they usually pressure the kicker more and go for block than a regular punt..

[Chi_archie]

forget betting or the spread... and those 2 safety points loom very large right now in this game if you are a steeler, steeler fan, or have the steeler ml those 2 points are golden.....


usually you are right on point with things Nicky, but you are a little off on this thread...

and the stuff about not counting the endzone in the punt... The net punt yardage for all kicks is measured from the line of scrimmage, doesn't matter if you punt from the 50 or the back of the endzone, you are measuring from where the ball started.... an average kicker is gonna net 43 yards on avg..from the line of scrimmage.

you take the points... not the potential for "more" points.... there are no garauntees.

and on a free kick, it is very very rare for a dude to kick it as far as the guy on the chargers did...

[pimike]

yes they were

[Legend4Aday]

Getting that safety motivated the defence to sack the QB, and in many games 2 pts can be the difference. Also If there wasn't a penalty for being sacked in the end zone then jac's QB wouldn't have felt as much pressure, and could have led to a first down...

[Chi_archie]

the 2 points made the difference between a win and a loss today

[bettilimbroke999]

the one pt rules is the stupiest rule in cfl

Agreed, that is easily the stupidest rule in the history of sports hands down

[veto]

didnt read all of what everyone else said but would rather get 2 points AND the ball back anyday insteada just the ball.