Oakland Raiders +10.5 & ML +500

**Mr Handicapable** · 12-06-12, 12:35 PM

34-17 Denver and thats with Oakland "A-" effort vs Denver "B" effort

Carter is really playing well along w/Bailey in the Bronco secondary and their pass rush is nasty. I'll be surprised if Palmer doesn't throw a pick-6 or a run back to the red zone atleast. Moreno might be an upgrade over McGeehee's fumbleitis as well.

**colts** · 12-06-12, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by ChalkyDog

How is one of the best QB's in the league performance against Denver at all relevant to the Raiders?

Patriots = Radiers ????

**kfranz31** · 12-06-12, 12:42 PM

i dont agree with the moneyline but the 10.5 maybe...i think the teaser is the way to go though

**slvrnblk** · 12-06-12, 02:22 PM

I don't know about the moneyline....but I have seen crazier things happen at a home game. I do agree with the +10.5 though I think it should be a semi-close game with McFragile coming back. He's had big games against Denver.

What does anybody think of this prop bet: Longest FG O/U 42.5 -120.....I think Seabass hits this over in the first half, any thoughts?

**bhattman** · 12-06-12, 02:57 PM

Oakland spread is the play here. too many people are hyping up Peyton Manning and how amazing he is (which he is). Denver is going to win this game, without a question; but its more than likely going to be by 4-7 pts. I can see a backdoor cover happening, just like that strange/disasterous punt return happened in the Cowboys game on SNF. BOL to everyone, regardless of what side of the ball your on.

**k13** · 12-06-12, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by PAULYPOKER

7-4-1ats

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Can't count?

**BIGDAY** · 12-06-12, 03:09 PM

Oakland is the play. Broncos let down game.

**freakydave** · 12-06-12, 03:15 PM

Took Den -3 +105 FQ & -10

**Kermit** · 12-06-12, 03:18 PM

The Raiders are craptacular. This is a tough team to back. Denver by 14.

**tony_come** · 12-06-12, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by BIGDAY

Oakland is the play. Broncos let down game.

This is crazy!

**BIGDAY** · 12-06-12, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

This is crazy!

Oakland first half might be better. Denver can start slow.

**Madison** · 12-06-12, 03:25 PM

Originally posted by Inkwell77

Raiders
Dolphins
Cardinals

One of these teams will win this weekend.

Probably as the opposite 3 team tease was a big play for me. Looked to obvious.

**Smoke** · 12-06-12, 03:27 PM

Pauly is fukkin mush

Fade this fukkin clown!

**flyboy** · 12-06-12, 03:30 PM

Denver covers. Don't over think it. this is way to easy!

**rUnVnME2** · 12-06-12, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by TB12

For everyone loving on Denver's D remember what Tom Brady did to them....

So basically, you're a retard?

**Pete0** · 12-06-12, 04:08 PM

DEN is 0-11 ATS last 11 games as a DD fav.

DD home dogs are 63-31 ATS (67%) since 1995

DEN is getting 65% of action tonite

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I'm loving DEN in a 10 pt teazy, although they might just cover the number.

**tripled83** · 12-06-12, 04:10 PM

I believe u can tease the side either way and the total either way and be right tonight.

**Butterface** · 12-06-12, 04:26 PM

I like the raiders to cover or maybe even win. They're going into this game at home and it's going to be an emotional game due to the passing of their head coach's father. Emotion tends to make a team that much better. Look at the colts thus far, chiefs last week, there are many other situations where emotion helps a team tremendously. With that being said I would take raiders plus the points. But I'm going to stay away from this game as the card for Sunday is way better than tonight's matchup. Good luck to all!

**Jago2008** · 12-06-12, 04:40 PM

Peyton Manning could replace his entire WR corp. with members of an assisted living community and still win by 20 over this hap-hazard squad known as the Raiders.

Raiders cornerback Michael Huff was quoted in saying: "Week in and week out, it's like the same: can't stop the run, can't stop the pass, things just aren't going well on defense. Right now, I guess we're just a bad defense. We can't really hide it."

Raiders seem to be brimming with confidence.

**smf72** · 12-06-12, 05:07 PM

I am brand new here, so don't beat up on me to bad still learning. I can get a teaser with the Bronco's -3 1/2 over 42 or under 54, the one I am on the line about is over/under any advice?

**smf72** · 12-06-12, 05:10 PM

or parlay -9 1/2 under over 48

**pattymayo** · 12-06-12, 05:22 PM

Wow so much Denver love in this thread. That never ends well

**frostno98** · 12-06-12, 05:24 PM

Remember that this Denver team can beat you 3 ways. Manning will get his points at will, and he's been doing against every single team this year. The Broncos Defense also might score in this game via a pick 6 or fumble return, or Trindon Holliday even might go off with the many punt returns he should get in this game.

The only way the Raiders cover is via a backdoor cover like the Bucs and Chargers game. The Raiders is not like the Chiefs where they can just milk the clock playing ultra conservative and try to keep it close as long as they can. This is a pass happy team with no running game, which is a great setup for Von Miller and Dumervil to knock Carson Palmer head off.

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-06-12, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

I'm all over Den, just hoping the line drops to 9.5 or i'm buying .5pts because its now -10 on my book.

If that line drops to 9.5 you are fukked on all Denver wagers ATS pal............

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-06-12, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by k13

Yes.
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Can't count?

I can count,

where did ya get your numbers?

12/02	vs TAMPA BAY	-7.5	49.5	31-23	W	W	Ov	91	3.1	242	9.0	71	3.4	235	13.1
11/25	at KANSAS CITY	-10.5	41.5	17-9	W	L	Un	95	4.0	273	12.4	148	4.8	116	8.9
11/18	vs SAN DIEGO	-7	47.5	30-23	W	P	Ov	133	5.3	253	10.1	53	2.3	224	9.3
11/11	at CAROLINA	-3.5	46.5	36-14	W	W	Ov	65	3.0	295	10.9	52	2.5	198	9.4
11/04	at CINCINNATI	-5	47.5	31-23	W	W	Ov	68	2.6	291	10.8	91	3.6	275	10.6
10/28	vs NEW ORLEANS	-6	54.5	34-14	W	W	Un	225	5.5	305	13.9	51	3.0	201	9.1
10/15	at SAN DIEGO	PK	48	35-24	W	W	Ov	57	2.6	309	12.9	90	3.3	218	8.7
10/07	at NEW ENGLAND	+6	50.5	21-31	L	L	Ov	70	3.5	332	10.7	251	4.6	193	8.4
09/30	vs OAKLAND	-6.5	47	37-6	W	W	Un	165	4.3	338	11.3	56	3.5	181	9.5
09/23	vs HOUSTON	+1.5	43	25-31	L	L	Ov	59	2.8	316	12.2	152	4.5	284	16.7
09/17	at ATLANTA	+3	49.5	21-27	L	L	Un	118	4.4	218	9.1	67	2.4	208	8.7
09/09	vs PITTSBURGH	-3	45	31-19	W	W	Ov	94	3.5	240	12.6	75	2.9	209	9.5

**Goat Milk** · 12-06-12, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by frostno98

Remember that this Denver team can beat you 3 ways. Manning will get his points at will, and he's been doing against every single team this year. The Broncos Defense also might score in this game via a pick 6 or fumble return, or Trindon Holliday even might go off with the many punt returns he should get in this game.

The only way the Raiders cover is via a backdoor cover like the Bucs and Chargers game. The Raiders is not like the Chiefs where they can just milk the clock playing ultra conservative and try to keep it close as long as they can. This is a pass happy team with no running game, which is a great setup for Von Miller and Dumervil to knock Carson Palmer head off.

McFadden is one of the best rbs in the entire league when healthy I think. Plus Reece is the best fullback in the league not even debatable

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-06-12, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Smoke

Pauly is fukkin mush

Fade this fukkin clown!

Better stop smokin,

It'll make ya melt..............

**JKosack7** · 12-06-12, 05:43 PM

Did you just google "poop with a cigarette in it".....

**suicidekings** · 12-06-12, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Goat Milk

McFadden is one of the best rbs in the entire league when healthy I think. Plus Reece is the best fullback in the league not even debatable

Talent doesn't matter when your offensive line can't provide the push needed to generate yardage. Bottom line, the Raiders have one of the worst running games in the NFL, despite only having played two games against a top 10 rushing defense.

**JZAL12** · 12-06-12, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by butterface

i like the raiders to cover or maybe even win. They're going into this game at home and it's going to be an emotional game due to the passing of their head coach's father. Emotion tends to make a team that much better. Look at the colts thus far, chiefs last week, there are many other situations where emotion helps a team tremendously. With that being said i would take raiders plus the points. But i'm going to stay away from this game as the card for sunday is way better than tonight's matchup. Good luck to all!

this

**tony_come** · 12-06-12, 06:13 PM

Full of shit

**Chicken&Waffles** · 12-06-12, 06:14 PM

never take a big ML dog first half and also expect them to cover the game spread. One or the other from my experiences.

**ImmortalKrop** · 12-06-12, 06:31 PM

The Broncos were double digit favorites 2 weeks ago at Kansas City and couldn't cover. I don't know what it is about double digit home favorites in the NFL but they cover at an amazing rate. Think it's something like 22-3 ATS over the past few years. They already clinched the AFC West, Oakland's head coach's father passed away so they will be playing with emotion. I think the Raiders somehow muster up just enough to get the cover but I definitely don't see them winning this game. Also like the Under too.

**PAULYPOKER** · 12-06-12, 06:33 PM

**Smoke** · 12-06-12, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

Full of shit