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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #1
    Sudafed + Caffeine
    I had some congestion this morning, and popped 2 Sudafed. Then, I drank a pot of coffee like I do every morning. After a quick round of screen shopping/pillaging, I did some work on tennis modeling. The pseudo-ephedrine/caffeine combination put me in a zone I've never been in before. 3 hours vanished in no time at all. A had a couple hundred lines of new working debugged code. It was crazy.

    Anyone else had a Sudafed experience?
  • iifold
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-25-10
    • 11111

    #2
    You could have just listened to me and took the Reds this morning...

    would have took you about 12 seconds...
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    • opie1988
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-12-10
      • 23429

      #3
      That's why they keep it in a locked cabinet at the stores now. Its a main ingredient in methamphetamine.

      Be careful there, pal.
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      • jmilacek
        SBR Sharp
        • 03-17-10
        • 378

        #4
        Tennis modeling?
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        • chemicalbrother
          Restricted User
          • 01-26-11
          • 4086

          #5
          coooooodeine.

          puuuuurple draaaank.

          mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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          • minet123
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-17-07
            • 10280

            #6
            Originally posted by Justin7

            Anyone else had a Sudafed experience?

            A sudafed Experience
            Boot about 10cc of some of West Baltimore's best Llello and see what kind of zone your in for debugging code
            Sudafed and caffeine experiences now being posted
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            • MichaelWaters
              Restricted User
              • 05-19-11
              • 1525

              #7
              Originally posted by Justin7
              I had some congestion this morning, and popped 2 Sudafed. Then, I drank a pot of coffee like I do every morning. After a quick round of screen shopping/pillaging, I did some work on tennis modeling. The pseudo-ephedrine/caffeine combination put me in a zone I've never been in before. 3 hours vanished in no time at all. A had a couple hundred lines of new working debugged code. It was crazy.

              Anyone else had a Sudafed experience?
              ephedrine/caffeine combo also called an "eca stack" is great for a few weeks maybe 2-3 days a week. then it turns to a dirty energy as their was never any dopamine high in the first place. id use it 2-3 times a month and maybe you can do so forever, abuse it and you will pay
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              • Albert Pujols
                SBR MVP
                • 06-01-10
                • 1670

                #8
                Originally posted by MichaelWaters
                ephedrine/caffeine combo also called an "eca stack" is great for a few weeks maybe 2-3 days a week. then it turns to a dirty energy as their was never any dopamine high in the first place. id use it 2-3 times a month and maybe you can do so forever, abuse it and you will pay
                You sound like you know what you're talking about? If there was no dopamine high, then what actually happened? And what is a dirty energy?
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                • Extra Innings
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-26-10
                  • 15058

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MichaelWaters
                  ephedrine/caffeine combo also called an "eca stack" is great for a few weeks maybe 2-3 days a week. then it turns to a dirty energy as their was never any dopamine high in the first place. id use it 2-3 times a month and maybe you can do so forever, abuse it and you will pay


                  was doing this for a while and it stopped working
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                  • Extra Innings
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-26-10
                    • 15058

                    #10
                    My guess is caffeine has a synergistic effect on the pseudoephedrine.

                    Here is the correct dosage schedule Justin for the next time you want to get high

                    How To Apply The ECA Stack:

                    Ephedrine and Caffeine work together in a synergistic fashion. The effects of the Ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspirin stack together are greater than the sum of each of their effects on their own.

                    The ECA stack helps to increase weight loss, heighten athletic performance, and boost energy. There is some conjecture as to the importance of aspirin in the ECA stack. It is believed that asipirin increases lipolytic activity and acts as a prostaglandin inhibitor.

                    Standard ECA Stack Dosage: (*the optimal ratio is E:C:A=1:10:3 )

                    Ephedrine 20-30mg
                    Caffeine 200mg (equal to roughly 2.5 cups of coffee)
                    Aspirin 75mg
                    Ephedrine Dosing Schedules:

                    Depending on body weight and weight loss goals, dosing schedules may vary for ephedrine. Dosages should not exceed 75-100mg of ephedrine in a 24 hour period. The ECA stack should be taken on an empty stomach preferably 45 minutes to 1 hour before meals no more than 3 times per day. When starting the ECA stack, it's recommended to start with only one dosage (recommended dosage) per day, preferably 30 minutes before your workout, 30 minutes before breakfast or first thing in the morning.

                    The dosing schedule for the ECA stack is usually split into two or three separate doses(20-50mg) throughout the day.

                    How To Cycle The ECA Stack:

                    A few studies have demonstrated ephedrine can depress the beta andrenergenic response within only one week. The adrenal glands can become fatigued while using ephedrine, which, after a number of weeks, can have a catabolic effect on muscles through increased cortisol production. This is why it's a good idea to cycle the ECA stack.

                    Eventually, the individual becomes used to the effects of the initial dosage and will need to increase the dosage. It has been determined that 3 doses per day is the maximum an individual should consume, with the final dose taken before 6pm to avoid any potential sleep problems.

                    The length of the ECA cycle length should be limted to no more than than 12 weeks, depending on how long it takes the individual to reach his/her goals. After an ECA cycle, it's recommended to take at least 12 weeks off from another ECA stack, in order to limit any potentential over-dependance issues or other harmul side effects.

                    Never take ephedrine longer than 4 weeks without a break or the drug may become harmful.

                    Tips And Warnings For The ECA Stack:

                    Ephedrine will burn fat and supercharge metabolism, but ephedrine will also burn muscle if you're not weight training or maintaining caloric intake.
                    Maintain caloric intake to give yourself plenty of energy to power through workouts. Ephedrine will also suppress your appetite.
                    The ECA stack will facilitate fat loss within the first few weeks even if you don't exercise. Naturally, the ECA stack will be much more effective when used in combination with diet and exercise.
                    The ECA stack, like any supplement or prescription medication, can be dangerous. Ephedrine, by itself, will increase heart rate. When ephedrine is combined with caffeine, it can be a little intense and takes some getting used to.
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                    • DiggityDaggityDo
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-30-08
                      • 81454

                      #11
                      Gives a nice wirey high type feeling.kinda like a mild speed. Nothing to worry about here. Do it if you like it. It keeps you awake and alert and functioning? no problem.
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                      • jcubs55
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-18-10
                        • 1023

                        #12
                        That's pretty dangerous... mixing depressants and stimulants can have horrible effects on the body... be careful
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                        • Domestic
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-10-09
                          • 6323

                          #13
                          Justin, let me know if you find a cure for insomnia please.
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                          • Dutch
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-21-10
                            • 4339

                            #14
                            E/C stack is pretty much low grade meth. You have to cycle off in order for it to keep working. Or keep uping the dose and end up with heart palpitations.
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                            • flyingillini
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-06-06
                              • 41219

                              #15
                              I prefer some top shelf clauvo.
                              המוסד‎
                              המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים‎
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                              • Roadtrip635
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-07-10
                                • 6129

                                #16
                                Not quite the same type of experience, but when I used to scuba dive more frequently I would pop half to a whole sudafed to help me clear my ears. You gotta be careful with any type substance when diving though, the deeper you go, the more the effects are intensified.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388189

                                  #17
                                  Justin do coke and stop wasting your time

                                  You sound like a rookie in the drug game

                                  Do a few lines per hr and see your handicapping skills greatly increase
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                                  • Justin7
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 07-31-06
                                    • 8577

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Domestic
                                    Justin, let me know if you find a cure for insomnia please.
                                    I have. Its name is Golf.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388189

                                      #19
                                      Justin do a line of coke and I will give you 100 points only if you make a video of it
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                                      • patswin
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-05-06
                                        • 1794

                                        #20
                                        No wonder you have to give your d/l to get this stuff.
                                        only take it when I'm sick so I never noticed it
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                                        • chilidog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-05-09
                                          • 10305

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jcubs55
                                          That's pretty dangerous... mixing depressants and stimulants can have horrible effects on the body... be careful
                                          Where's the depressant? He took 2 stimulants.
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82475

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Domestic
                                            Justin, let me know if you find a cure for insomnia please.
                                            Reading this book is the cure to insomnia:

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                                            • TheCentaur
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-28-11
                                              • 8108

                                              #23
                                              You should try doing that then talking an ice cold shower. I swear you will feel like you can kick a silverback mountain gorilla's ass.
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                                              • minet123
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-17-07
                                                • 10280

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Justin do coke and stop wasting your time

                                                You sound like a rookie in the drug game

                                                Do a few lines per hr and see your handicapping skills greatly increase
                                                Can you picture Justin7 in North Philadelphia buying Coke
                                                now there is some conquering risk for you

                                                don't forget in your negotiations to make sure they understand "powder and not rock"
                                                and trust me Tica/Tico Spanish that helps you navigate the sportbook world is incomprehensible to the average supplier in the streets
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                                                • thekid667
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 11-09-10
                                                  • 468

                                                  #25
                                                  Ive had the "experience" and it is definitely a tool to be used lightly.
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                                                  • TobiasFunke
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-12-09
                                                    • 1999

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                    Reading this book is the cure to insomnia:

                                                    [ATTACH]30352[/ATTACH]


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                                                    • Vegas_bond
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-09-09
                                                      • 624

                                                      #27
                                                      Next time add some tequila shots to the mix. Your congestion will be gone.
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                                                      • MichaelWaters
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 05-19-11
                                                        • 1525

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Albert Pujols
                                                        You sound like you know what you're talking about? If there was no dopamine high, then what actually happened? And what is a dirty energy?
                                                        no release of dopamine only norephedrine. body will adjust quicker and the mental sharpness will fade away
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                                                        • Extra Innings
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 02-26-10
                                                          • 15058

                                                          #29
                                                          Just popped 60 **....thanks for the tip Justin.... will report back
                                                          Attached Files
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                                                          • MichaelWaters
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 05-19-11
                                                            • 1525

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Extra Innings
                                                            Just popped 60 **....thanks for the tip Justin.... will report back
                                                            i hope you took the daytime stuff
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                                                            • chilidog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-05-09
                                                              • 10305

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by MichaelWaters
                                                              no release of dopamine only norephedrine. body will adjust quicker and the mental sharpness will fade away
                                                              Both caffeine and ephedrine cause the release of dopamine, as do most stimulants.

                                                              From wiki:

                                                              Ephedrine is a sympathomimetic amine. The principal mechanism of its action relies on its indirect stimulation of the adrenergic receptor system, which is part of the sympathetic nervous system (SNS), by increasing the activity of noradrenaline at the post-synaptic α- and β-receptors.[1] The presence of direct interactions with α-receptors is unlikely, but still controversial.[7][8][9] L-Ephedrine, and particularly its stereoisomer norpseudoephedrine (which is also present in Catha edulis) has indirect sympathomimetic effects and due to its ability to cross the blood brain barrier, it is a CNS stimulant similar to amphetamines but less pronounced, as it releases noradrenaline and dopamine in the substantia nigra.[10]
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                                                              • MichaelWaters
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 05-19-11
                                                                • 1525

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by chilidog
                                                                Both caffeine and ephedrine cause the release of dopamine, as do most stimulants.

                                                                From wiki:

                                                                Ephedrine is a sympathomimetic amine. The principal mechanism of its action relies on its indirect stimulation of the adrenergic receptor system, which is part of the sympathetic nervous system (SNS), by increasing the activity of noradrenaline at the post-synaptic α- and β-receptors.[1] The presence of direct interactions with α-receptors is unlikely, but still controversial.[7][8][9] L-Ephedrine, and particularly its stereoisomer norpseudoephedrine (which is also present in Catha edulis) has indirect sympathomimetic effects and due to its ability to cross the blood brain barrier, it is a CNS stimulant similar to amphetamines but less pronounced, as it releases noradrenaline and dopamine in the substantia nigra.[10]
                                                                correction. it doesnt release dopamine in the frontal lobe, i.e. where it counts
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                                                                • Extra Innings
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 02-26-10
                                                                  • 15058

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Some good shit here....thanks MW

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                                                                  • Justin7
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-31-06
                                                                    • 8577

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                    Reading this book is the cure to insomnia:

                                                                    [ATTACH]30352[/ATTACH]
                                                                    Thanks Pavy.
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                                                                    • Rich Boy
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 02-01-09
                                                                      • 9713

                                                                      #35
                                                                      You might have ADD Justin, you basically took some Adderall
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