HUGE Mansion bonus, can't miss if you bet sports.

**pags11** · 08-26-06, 03:20 PM

as much as I love mansion, I can't bring myself to take part in this promotion...

**chano** · 08-26-06, 03:31 PM

Pags11. Why wont you take part in this promo?

**magnavox** · 08-26-06, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by chano

Pags11. Why wont you take part in this promo?

Because he only bets up to $100-$200 per game.

**pags11** · 08-26-06, 03:53 PM

magnavox,

thought I smelled you around the forum...good to know you haven't had a date in a while there bud...

I will wager approximately $14,000 dollars over the course of the college football season (as detailed in my wagering plan for the year that I have posted on here before), which I imagine is a great deal more than the combined ammount you will bet...yeah, I don't bet my house on every game, but I do expose myself to plenty of risk and have plenty of action throughout the course of the season...this is much better than a guy like you that may bet $500 a game and not make it past week 2 of the season 'cause your bankroll gets dried up with shitty picks!

chano,

I just don't know...to me this still falls into the category of "if it's too good to be true, then it probably is"...for one, I don't want to have to scramble to get the money into mansion as my bankroll is split over 6 different books...second, I hate even watching the NFL and I think having $1100 (even thought it would be refunded if I lost) would take me out of my mojo for college football...third, all of these bets are coming in on the Steelers and the line is moving the opposite way? I already have an opinion on some NFL games being rigged (anyone watch last year's superbowl)...I still may change my mind, but I didn't take part in their soccer promos this summer and don't think I take part here...fourth, I hate betting favorites (unless I really have a reason to)...

on a side note, anyone know what percentage of these "refund" games actually hit this summer (in regards to the professional soccer games)...I'd like to know this information...

**BigDaddy** · 08-26-06, 04:07 PM

anyone that gambles that doesn't take advantage of this offer is crazy IMHO i will have 4000 reasons to smile if pitt covers -5

thanks mansion

mansion has plenty of cash to cover all bets.

**pags11** · 08-26-06, 04:16 PM

big daddy,

just to play devils advocate here?...why are they doing this?...I mean, I know they want new accounts, but with their free withdrawals, what's to prevent someone from playing in this promo and then dropping out of mansion?...also, the move from -104 in football to -107 concerns me a little...maybe they're not as liquid as we think they are?...it's a possibility...

**BigDaddy** · 08-26-06, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by pags11

big daddy,

just to play devils advocate here?...why are they doing this?...I mean, I know they want new accounts, but with their free withdrawals, what's to prevent someone from playing in this promo and then dropping out of mansion?...also, the move from -104 in football to -107 concerns me a little...maybe they're not as liquid as we think they are?...it's a possibility...

i have had no problems at mansion and i believe it is a great marketing tool being the 1st game of the nfl season most gamblers will stay and play and IMHO they will not get as many people betting this $1100 as most think

**pags11** · 08-26-06, 04:25 PM

bigdaddy,

I agree with you bud, I'm just saying I don't think mansion is in the same category in terms of say pinnacle with deep pockets...I praise them as one of the top books out there, but a promotion like this could definitely hurt their bottom line and thus affect us as customers in the future...

to your point though, there are many more reasons to take advantage of this offer, than not to...

**jennybear** · 08-26-06, 05:37 PM

so let me ask something on my first post here, if i wanted to just try to win the free 1000, and if i lose take my 1100 out is that going to happen or are they going to give me the runaround?

**MrX** · 08-26-06, 06:18 PM

It's unlikely that you will receive any runaround. You will, however, have to fax or email proof of ID before any withdrawal. This is clearly stated in the terms. You can send it at any time, though, no need to wait 'till you're ready to withdraw.

**tacomax** · 08-26-06, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by jennybear

so let me ask something on my first post here, if i wanted to just try to win the free 1000, and if i lose take my 1100 out is that going to happen or are they going to give me the runaround?

Welcome to the forum and, as already been said, you should have no problems with this promo. Anyone not taking advantage of this offer needs to enroll in Gambling 101 in the next semester.

**scottyy11** · 08-26-06, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by pags11

big daddy,

just to play devils advocate here?...why are they doing this?...I mean, I know they want new accounts, but with their free withdrawals, what's to prevent someone from playing in this promo and then dropping out of mansion?...also, the move from -104 in football to -107 concerns me a little...maybe they're not as liquid as we think they are?...it's a possibility...

i'm pretty much thinking the same way........you just never know how liquid someone is no matter what they say, and this is a privately held company is it not?..........i worked as a stock broker for a short time and heard plenty about how solid a company was only to see them go down the toilet in a few months

**Dark Horse** · 08-27-06, 02:08 AM

I've had a small problem with Mansion in the past, but this offer is good as gold. Mansion is the official shirt sponsor for Tottenham Hotspurs! You're just not going to find a more financially stable offshore book.

Some of this reminds me of a tv clip with somebody handing out free money in the street, but only a beggar took it serious. The rest of the crowd avoided the generous giver, thinking he couldn't be serious.

Edgar Davids, former Dutch international and player for Juventus and Ajax, in this weekend's game for the Spurs.

**chano** · 08-27-06, 07:08 AM

I dont care how solid a company is. You dont give away millions of dollars. Every company is a solid as gold, until they stop paying and go down. I know BOS is not well liked here, but lets be serious, they were as solid as you can get. Had they done a promo like this a month before there demise, most would have joined and thought nothing negative about the offer. Look at them now. I would beware of the offshore Industry right now, too much has happened and it aint done yet.

**scottyy11** · 08-27-06, 12:21 PM

dark horse i seem to recall that there were a ton of mlb stadiums named after dotcom companies.........where did they go?

dont get me wrong im not saying this isnt the deal of the century and i may still do it.

all im saying is unless you are privy to a companies books and are a accountant and the numbers are real you dont know where a company stands. The deep pockets and stuff and the oh they are solid stuff is pretty much just hearsay spread from one player to another

at some point would you not start to wonder....what if they offered you a free 10k bet would you take it? 100k? how bout 1mill? what point would you start to wonder

**chano** · 08-27-06, 12:47 PM

scottyy11, My point exactly. Well put.

**chano** · 08-27-06, 12:48 PM

Anybody know how many customers Mansion may have that will partake in this promo.?

**increasedodds** · 08-27-06, 02:39 PM

Anyone who does not take this promo should quit gambling.

$10,000,000 is pocket change to the owner of this book. He makes that in interest in under a week.

-Sean

**TLD** · 08-27-06, 05:24 PM

It’s a little scary to me, since, as has been mentioned, an owner having a lot of money is no guarantee whatsoever that a sportsbook will not close up and stiff people.

I do think the BOS analogy is a poor one, however. To say “[BOS] were as solid as you can get. Had they done a promo like this a month before there demise, most would have joined and thought nothing negative about the offer” is wildly untrue. They were known to be the very opposite of “solid.” They were crooked through and through, and a huge number of people would have “thought negative” about any such offer from them. Whatever red flags this sends up from Mansion, they would have been enormously greater from BOS, and deservedly so.

But anyway, as far as the Mansion free bet, the way I look at it, it’s not a matter of take it or don’t take it. It’s a matter of take it or don’t play at Mansion at all. If I thought the risk too high that this was some ruse to take in a lot of deposits and run for the hills, I wouldn’t just skip the promotion, I’d withdraw all my funds immediately.

I decided the risk isn’t too great, so I will continue to play at Mansion, and therefore it’s a no-brainer to take advantage of this free play. But to skip the free play because “it’s too good to be true” and yet keep money there makes no sense at all to me.

**JoshW** · 08-27-06, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by TLD

But anyway, as far as the Mansion free bet, the way I look at it, it’s not a matter of take it or don’t take it. It’s a matter of take it or don’t play at Mansion at all. If I thought the risk too high that this was some ruse to take in a lot of deposits and run for the hills, I wouldn’t just skip the promotion, I’d withdraw all my funds immediately.

I decided the risk isn’t too great, so I will continue to play at Mansion, and therefore it’s a no-brainer to take advantage of this free play. But to skip the free play because “it’s too good to be true” and yet keep money there makes no sense at all to me.

Couldn't put it better myself. If you are going to play with them no reason not to take advantage of the offer.

**natrass** · 08-27-06, 06:45 PM

I dont think people quite realise the scale of this thing.

Every friggin' forum Ive been to has this on. Even non-betting forums. In the UK, the US, all Europe.

Just think about this news in other countries like Israel for example. People will be signing up dead relatives and all sorts for this cash over there.

I am sure I'm not the only one who was a bit cynical when, just a day after mansion put this offer up, the Israeli army started withdrawing from Lebanon.

I have done some rudimentary 'back of an envelope' calculations and the figures that fall out are frightening. I make it that more than 25 million people will be signing up for this offer.

So, thats $25,000,000,000 if the Steelers beat -5.

Now, I dont care who this bloke in Indonesia is, but thats a hell of a lot of fags to sell in anyones money.

**acw** · 08-27-06, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by natrass

I have done some rudimentary 'back of an envelope' calculations and the figures that fall out are frightening. I make it that more than 25 million people will be signing up for this offer.

You speak my language!

So, thats $25,000,000,000 if the Steelers beat -5.

This will not happen. Steelers will not win.

Now, I dont care who this bloke in Indonesia is, but thats a hell of a lot of fags to sell in anyones money.

Rich enough to fix the match!

**rm18** · 08-27-06, 07:21 PM

I agree that Miami wins the game, but no way this guy can fix an NFL game

**chano** · 08-27-06, 07:37 PM

When you guys get screwed for your money. Please dont come here and cry. Its a stupid offer. Mega money or not.

**increasedodds** · 08-27-06, 07:39 PM

No way 25,000,000 people take this offer.

The biggest forums out there have about 12,000 members. Of those members, a good number are inactive and many overlap.

If 10,000 people take Mansion up on this offer I will be stunned.

Remember the people have to have $1100 sitting around that they are willing to send offshore.

**Santo** · 08-27-06, 07:42 PM

I've seen detailed instructions posted on UK Forums (including whether or not you can lay off -5 by taking +4 ;-)) one forum that I checked today seemed to have 100-150 people already participating in the offer

**kiwi** · 08-27-06, 08:00 PM

Do you all believe that Mansion offers this free bet until the start of the game? I guess they have an internal limit of participants and if that is reached they stop the offer. According to the rules of the promotion they can stop it any time they want.

**sjelveh** · 08-27-06, 08:07 PM

It really is a great promo and makes good business sense for mansion. If you’re going to put 1100 on a game you got some money lying around. Lets say you win and you got 2000 in your account how may gamblers you know are going to say awesome and cash out right away, not too many. especially with the first week of nfl and some major college match ups coming right around the corner. It’s not like their doing it on Monday when they’re no action for a week. I’d be really surprised if you lost and didn’t have the refund back by Friday to be able to bet sat and Sunday. Greed is a killer in gambling the best thing for mansion in a warped way is for them to lose if your not a 1000 better and you win 1000 what’s going to stop you from being a 1000 better from now on. it’s a known fact once you do something you are more likely to do it again. Just my two cents and yes I am doing it and plan on cashing out right away, but what if you happen to absolutely love a game on sat or Sunday and think wow I got a chance to win 4000 that’s why there doing it to get that player and yes that player is the majority of gamblers. JUST DON’T BE THAT PLAYER GET IN GET OUT.

**increasedodds** · 08-27-06, 09:20 PM

The majority of people who will throw $1100 to one book offshore are gamblers. I told at least 10 people today about a free $500 if they had $1600 or so. None took me up on it... and they have money to waste.

If you are a gambler who can afford 1100, if you win, many will hang around for the football season...

I have probably taught/told 100 people how to make money online gambling. Maybe 2 have taken my advice. Most people gamble for fun.

-Sean

**JoshW** · 08-27-06, 09:38 PM

I can't really agree with those who say it makes good business sense, but I don't think they have ever been very smart with money.

As for fixing an NFL game? Come on. He didn't manage to fix all those baseball and football games were he was just randomly offering absurd odds.

They just do stupid promos and pay. If any other offshore book did this I would be concerned, but Mansion does this sort of throw money shit frequently. Just never to this scale.

**rm18** · 08-27-06, 10:09 PM

Well I don't know that thing they did with baseball was pretty large scale just not on one game, where they would have those 6 figure offers that could easily be scalped at many places

**pags11** · 08-27-06, 11:14 PM

this game is already in the process of being fixed...lol...

**sjelveh** · 08-28-06, 06:28 PM

i Opened my account today and sent my id but i am going to make sure I can withdraw though before I put the 1100 in.

**Dark Horse** · 08-28-06, 06:51 PM

Don't you think they work with a budget on this, and that they will close the door on the promotion before the entire earth population signs up?

This guy is just having some fun with his money. Just nickles and dimes to him.

**LVHerbie** · 08-28-06, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by increasedodds

The majority of people who will throw $1100 to one book offshore are gamblers. I told at least 10 people today about a free $500 if they had $1600 or so. None took me up on it... and they have money to waste.

If you are a gambler who can afford 1100, if you win, many will hang around for the football season...

I have probably taught/told 100 people how to make money online gambling. Maybe 2 have taken my advice. Most people gamble for fun.

-Sean

I have had very similar experiences... I quit talking to people about online poker and gambling... Too many believe you can't get something this easy and with all the fing scams IN THE US very few people are willing to trust sending money overseas on the internet... I'm put the under/over at 20,000 on this promotion...

And, BTW, why can't the fucking politicians worry about cleaning up the crap here before focusing the offshores stuff? Just leave us the **** alone and we can police ourselves offshores...

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