Steps to Becoming a Pro Gambler......

**Dirty Sanchez** · 07-27-14, 03:30 PM

Please contact Mr jj Gold...aka Mr Bad Ass

He's the SBR resident "Pro Gambler"

**2holesin1** · 07-27-14, 03:38 PM

Thanks DS but i have read jj and jayvegas trip reports and wish them luck. I plan of having a house, car etc when i am down there.

**boeing power** · 07-27-14, 03:42 PM

If you plan on retiring in 10 years, Don't gamble.

**artyfudgepacker** · 07-27-14, 03:51 PM

post ur fukking picks .we will see if u got what it takes to be a sharp .BOL

**KRIT** · 07-27-14, 03:56 PM

"Professional gambler" is such a dumb and thrown around phrase. Anyone who gambles and doesn't have a job calls themselves a "professional gambler."

Just say you are retiring, moving to Veags, and are going to gamble.

**2holesin1** · 07-27-14, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

"Professional gambler" is such a dumb and thrown around phrase. Anyone who gambles and doesn't have a job calls themselves a "professional gambler."

Just say you are retiring, moving to Veags, and are going to gamble.

I agree Krit. I have been to Vegas 60 plus times. Have trips booked for opening weekend Nfl(sept6-10), Nov. 8, Jan 10 2015, Feb 1 (superbowl). I have been "around the block" a few times in my life. But i have been saving aside a "Vegas account" since i was 25. So unlike alot so called "pro Gamblers" i do have a plan. Just want to get some advice/input/ideas etc in case i missed something. Never hurts to ask opinions.

Thnx

**jjgold** · 07-27-14, 04:05 PM

Move to Vegas/ Europe
Get line service
Five offshore solid outs
Starting $50,000 bankroll
Check the forums daily

**lupe** · 07-27-14, 04:08 PM

Move to Vegas
cheap weekly motel 15 miles off strip, $140 a week
only eat 75 cent hot dogs at Coast casinos
Starting $275 bankroll
Post on the forums 100x day
Hope to hit the jackpot on a slot

**tatehill2000** · 07-27-14, 05:06 PM

I have just started making that transition,,, I shaved 1 day off of my work week,,, and beginning aug ending june I am doing it "professionally".

I think more so its the $$ ammount you use (and if you turn a profit) that determines a professional handicapper,,,

dont martingale,,,
stay disciplined,,,,
be kind to the casino help,,, (tip extra and be courteous) (this can keep you from getting banned and/or let you in on soft lines)
get your mother to open a safety deposit box with her name on it only,, keep majority of your $$ here
get your own safety deposit box,,, keep some here.
stay LIQUID!!!
keep VERY LITTLE DEBT!
report a "fair" ammount and pay a "fair" ammount of taxes
get a concealed weapons permit and wear a gun

good luck

**2holesin1** · 07-27-14, 05:35 PM

Thanks Tatehill and BOL to you! Discipline & Money Management are the keys.

**KVB** · 07-27-14, 06:17 PM

An honest, helpful answer to your question would require a huge post and still wouldn't touch the surface. You have so much to learn, so much to unlearn, and even then you may just not have the constitution to be a successful professional gambler.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but know the road is long and conversations are lengthy should you want to be your own handicapper, not solely relying on the work (or lack thereof) of others.

**2holesin1** · 07-27-14, 06:29 PM

Thanks for your reply KVB. As stated above i have been sports gambling since i was 17(not as a source of income.....) and as stated i think/know i have been "around the block". Had highs and lows but ALWAYS had the money/discipline to go along with it. As the years went on i obviously seen it. And i have NEVER paid for a service. EVERY one of my bets is MY DECISION.

**Seto** · 07-27-14, 06:39 PM

Originally posted by lupe

Move to Vegas
cheap weekly motel 15 miles off strip, $140 a week
only eat 75 cent hot dogs at Coast casinos
Starting $275 bankroll
Post on the forums 100x day
Hope to hit the jackpot on a slot

**jjgold** · 07-27-14, 07:35 PM

You cannot be a Pro gambler living in United States except the Las Vegas

**Bostongambler** · 07-27-14, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

You cannot be a Pro gambler living in United States except the Las Vegas

Maybe not 20 years ago, but in case you haven't noticed the world has become a lot smaller. Along with ur rooster.

**physed** · 07-27-14, 07:41 PM

Make sure you have health insurance because all the stress that is involved with sports gambling.

**jjgold** · 07-27-14, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by Bostongambler

Maybe not 20 years ago, but in case you haven't noticed the world has become a lot smaller. Along with ur rooster.

impossible to get the best lines and impossible to move money like pros do

get a clue Stevey

**KVB** · 07-27-14, 10:14 PM

I would suggest you learn to make a point spread and money line that is closer to reality, closer to the true odds of an event, than the oddsmakers can make and/or the bookmakers can keep.

I would also suggest you learn how to make the spread the oddsmakers make and learn why the bookmakers settle where they do.

This will go a long way towards being a successful gambler.

**jjgold** · 07-27-14, 11:34 PM

Most do not have the discipline to be a successful sports gambler

Secondly most people do not have the bankroll

**sbrhedge** · 07-27-14, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Most do not have the discipline to be a successful sports gambler Secondly most people do not have the bankroll

also the ability to develop adaptive strategies

so maybe only 1 in every 500,000 people

**sbrhedge** · 07-27-14, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by 2holesin1

Thanks for your reply KVB. As stated above i have been sports gambling since i was 17(not as a source of income.....) and as stated i think/know i have been "around the block". Had highs and lows but ALWAYS had the money/discipline to go along with it. As the years went on i obviously seen it. And i have NEVER paid for a service. EVERY one of my bets is MY DECISION.

for me, i reach escape velocity on my bankroll when i start hitting low 4 figures a game. if i bet 0.5-2.0% a game, then i want a 100-200K bankroll. my outlays become a small fraction of the number of bets i win each month.

also, i squeeze infrequently if i have a high-frequency betting system along with a high EV low-freq one. one provides income, and the other increases bankroll size.

if you have passive income, that might help your cause A LOT

**timbaland99** · 07-28-14, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by KVB

I would suggest you learn to make a point spread and money line that is closer to reality, closer to the true odds of an event, than the oddsmakers can make and/or the bookmakers can keep.

I would also suggest you learn how to make the spread the oddsmakers make and learn why the bookmakers settle where they do.

This will go a long way towards being a successful gambler.

I see these words paraphrased from time to time but no one ever offers any solid advice on HOW to make a spread close or closer than the bookmakers do. The only thing that is said is, you need to create a model.

More detailed instructions or an easier method would be appreciated

**vividjohn45** · 07-28-14, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

You cannot be a Pro gambler living in United States except the Las Vegas

Jj. Quit lettng the air out if ur tires.

**vividjohn45** · 07-28-14, 12:28 AM

Id use sports. Poker. Black jack. Backgammon and roulette. If i was a professional. Im just a amatuer. But i won my best bet sat and sunday. So i primarily didnt play table games. Much.

**vividjohn45** · 07-28-14, 12:31 AM

I dont see why u wuld move to vegas when u can wager online.. unless u concerned about the law of ur state. If u luv luve poker. I wuld sort of understand. But on sportsbetting. No.

**vividjohn45** · 07-28-14, 12:32 AM

Live poker

**rm18** · 07-28-14, 02:35 AM

being in vegas still helps for sportsbetting because more betting options also have rooms with many tvs set up to watch all the games is hard to replicate at your house and is definitely not free

**unluckysob** · 07-28-14, 07:15 AM

I like this---except for living 15 miles off the strip.

Originally posted by lupe

Move to Vegas
cheap weekly motel 15 miles off strip, $140 a week
only eat 75 cent hot dogs at Coast casinos
Starting $275 bankroll
Post on the forums 100x day
Hope to hit the jackpot on a slot

**jjgold** · 07-28-14, 07:25 AM

Forget poker that's a suckers game

15 miles outside of Las Vegas is too far to plan on moving there and being a pro gambler

**rkelly110** · 07-28-14, 07:47 AM

I assume you did your home work on the renting industry in Vegas? Property management is gonna hit into your
rent income. If the industry is hot, maybe buy more properties?

Doing your gambling for so long, I guess you have a system and money management?

I never set foot in a casino w/o knowing the game I'm playing and have a system for that game.
Throwing my hard earned money away for fun is not my idea of fun. I'm a hit it and quit it kind of gambler.
Time is not on your side in a casino. From slots to sports betting.

Good luck.

**jjgold** · 07-28-14, 08:12 AM

98% of sports bettors fail of course

They have no idea about odds...they think its studying stats

Anyone using stats to bet on sports should quit today

Its all about odds and numbers

**2holesin1** · 07-28-14, 08:32 AM

JJ how are you doing in Vegas? Wish u all the Best. Good Luck, be selective, patient and manage your money.

**James Marques** · 07-28-14, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

98% of sports bettors fail of course

They have no idea about odds...they think its studying stats

Anyone using stats to bet on sports should quit today

Its all about odds and numbers

This is beyond idiotic

**2holesin1** · 07-28-14, 03:48 PM

There is alot of variables that go into a matchup.