Planning first Vegas trip - couple of questions for regulars/locals

**onthewhat** · 04-07-09, 11:42 PM

You should just wait for the bash

Mid August and you could probably get your flight and room paid for by SBR

**RogueJuror** · 04-07-09, 11:46 PM

yeah why not wait for the bash?

**Matt Rain** · 04-07-09, 11:47 PM

I doubt SBR is going to cover airfare for Canadians... will they? It's more expensive from up here.

**onthewhat** · 04-07-09, 11:47 PM

Last year they gave $300 for airfare, they will probably do the same thing, cover it up to a certain amount

**Matt Rain** · 04-07-09, 11:48 PM

I never even thought about the bash... when is it? Isn't it just a weekend?

**Mac4Lyfe** · 04-07-09, 11:54 PM

Matt,
I use to go to Vegas every weekend so I know a lot about the place. I've payed quite a few light bills in some of the casino's as well

Boxing depends on when your there. The big fights are at the big casino's (Mandalay Bay, Ceasar's, MGM, etc.) If your a big whale it won't be hard to get tickets but if your a small timer good luck. Years ago I got comped for MMA at MGM but this was before it got real popular. It'd be easier to just win the money on the tables or in the books and buy your own seats. There's no real advantage booking a hotel room where the fight is. Bottom line would be how much are you wagering there and for how long. Once again you may come out cheaper just buying the seats instead of trying to get in enough time for tix that they may limit to their high rollers.

There are some incredible bargains right now during the weekdays. You can stay at the Big names for under $100/nt. I don't care to go off the strip nor do I go downtown much. I like to stay on the strip and enjoy the eye candy. Single in Vegas, I recommend Mandalay, Hard Rock, The Venetian, Ceasar's... Mandalay has a great sushi bar but it's a little pricey.

I like Ceasar's sportsbook as it gets a lot of crowds (eye candy). if you want a low key book try circus circus or the Sahara (great Steakhouse there as well - House of Lords).

If your going to be there for 2 weeks I would recommend staying at several places. Go with the big names during the week since their prices are cheap then go to the smaller places on the weekend at a discount. Vegas is a blast, just pace yourself.

**RogueJuror** · 04-07-09, 11:56 PM

i think its 2 days

**pico** · 04-07-09, 11:57 PM

matt is going to be paying for the lights in vegas.

i'd say try a 2fer with the tornoto girl listed in my other thread. get 2 for 1 special bbbj.

**MonkeyF0cker** · 04-08-09, 12:09 AM

Are you sure there is a fight that weekend? If there is, you'd be better off buying tickets now or from a scalper at the fight. You'd have to give them a shitload of big action to get any decent tickets comped for a fight here. They already have plenty of high rollers in town for those types of events. There are only a couple of slower moving books here. There are quite a few sharps and runners in town as you can imagine. Only the books that cut and limit players fall under this distinction. They would include Stratosphere and Stations. There are an absolute slew of excellent sushi bars here. Some of the better ones near or on the strip are Nobu, Ra, Shibuya, Kaizen, and Sushi Roku.

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 12:32 AM

Mac - that's what I'm seeing re: weekday deals at the big name hotels. Switching places seems like a pain in the ass though, and Expedia is offering a very steep discount right now if I book a flight and 9 nights at the Bellagio - comes out to $1250/person for direct flight + hotel, which seems ridiculously cheap for what it is. Lots of cheaper options too, obviously.

Monkey - define "shitload of big action". I can play near-perfect JoB at a decent pace and could probably roll over ~50k in half a day at the $5 machines, if such a thing exists. I'm guessing that the casino wants you to play different and bigger -EV games? Anyway, no fights have been announced as of yet, but I have to believe that there will be one card during either weekend I'll be there.

Thanks for the replies so far, very helpful stuff. I had heard about Nobu but didn't catch the fact that it was in Vegas. It definitely makes it onto my list of stuff to do.

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by pico

matt is going to be paying for the lights in vegas.

i'd say try a 2fer with the tornoto girl listed in my other thread. get 2 for 1 special bbbj.

Matt is going to let loose after working like a madman for the last year, and he'll be happy to blow part of his offshore winnings of the last 2 years.

We've got very decent & cheap girls in Montreal too: www.devilishescorts.com

**RogueJuror** · 04-08-09, 12:38 AM

how big is the afro population in montreal?

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by RogueJuror

how big is the afro population in montreal?

Not very. It's concentrated in a poor area @ northern end of the city (Montréal-Nord, nicknamed "Montréal-Noir" i.e. "Black Montreal")

**MonkeyF0cker** · 04-08-09, 12:45 AM

Matty,

The casinos here are well aware of JoB players. It wouldn't get you anything out of the ordinary. You'd need to be playing in the pits at about $200/hand or more.

**pico** · 04-08-09, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by Matt Rain

Matt is going to let loose after working like a madman for the last year, and he'll be happy to blow part of his offshore winnings of the last 2 years.

We've got very decent & cheap girls in Montreal too: www.devilishescorts.com

thinking about moving to canada

**RogueJuror** · 04-08-09, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by pico

thinking about moving to canada

pico lets go crash matty's apartment

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 12:50 AM

LOL @ $200/hand. I could lose 20k before my seat warms up.

No thanks.

That sort of seals the deal - will try to purchase tickets outright.

**LVHerbie** · 04-08-09, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Matt Rain

Monkey - define "shitload of big action". I can play near-perfect JoB at a decent pace and could probably roll over ~50k in half a day at the $5 machines, if such a thing exists. I'm guessing that the casino wants you to play different and bigger -EV games? Anyway, no fights have been announced as of yet, but I have to believe that there will be one card during either weekend I'll be there.

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If you are actually putting 50k coin in a day on $5 VP machines at the right places I wouldn't worry to much about rooms (well, at least on your next trip...)

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 12:53 AM

Either of you are welcome to crash at my place anytime if you wanna scout the area.

I just need you out during business hours.

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 12:56 AM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

http://www.vpfree2.com/casinos/by-region/las-vegas.html

If you are actually putting 50k coin in a day on $5 VP machines at the right places I wouldn't worry to much about rooms (well, at least on your next trip...)

Holy crap, I thought that +EV machines had long disappeared from the surface of the Earth. I'll have to work on my speed @ $1.25/hand, but damn... best we got here in MTL is 8/5 JoB.

Thanks a bunch for that link!

**MonkeyF0cker** · 04-08-09, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Matt Rain

LOL @ $200/hand. I could lose 20k before my seat warms up.

No thanks.

That sort of seals the deal - will try to purchase tickets outright.

Exactly. The pits are the only ones who will comp tickets like that. And you'd have a better chance of having them comped if you were up $20k rather than down $20k. The players clubs simply give you standard comps like food and free play mostly.

**LVHerbie** · 04-08-09, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by Matt Rain

3) Best sushi joint in Vegas?

If you have a rental car hit up Sumo's (2861 N Green Valley Pkwy.) It is a small place in a strip mall in Henderson but quality there is far superior (IMO) to that of the strip casinos for about the same price... Well worth the short drive if you want really good sushi...

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 01:04 AM

Originally posted by LVHerbie

If you have a rental car hit up Sumo's (2861 N Green Valley Pkwy.) It is a small place in a strip mall in Henderson but quality there is far superior (IMO) to that of the strip casinos for about the same price... Well worth the short drive if you want really good sushi...

Noted. Will have a car for the entire duration of the trip - bro and I are photo buffs and we're planning to get out of the city a couple of times to shoot the scenery. Never seen an actual tumbleweed nor experienced a dry summer. It all sounds very exotic.

**RogueJuror** · 04-08-09, 01:08 AM

how old is your brother?

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 01:10 AM

We're 30-yo twins.

**RogueJuror** · 04-08-09, 01:11 AM

identicals?

two matty's

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 01:17 AM

Yeah, pretty much identical. The kind of twins passerbys point at. Never gets old.

**RogueJuror** · 04-08-09, 01:18 AM

two mattys

back to topic

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 01:26 AM

You always go off topic, Rogatien.

**RogueJuror** · 04-08-09, 01:55 AM

good memory, a necessity in the quest to making it.

**reno cool** · 04-08-09, 02:46 AM

50K in jacks 9/6 will more than likely comp you several nights and food. They will refund you if you pay up front. But if you book through some third party you probably wont get shit. Check out VPfree to see who has the games you want. Since Jacks is a negative exp game, your likely to get quite a bit for 50k action, especially if you do it in one sitting. Of course your expected loss is $250 and possible loss of>5k.

**Shortstop** · 04-08-09, 03:22 AM

The Bellagio is nice. We stayed there a couple of times.

**Matt Rain** · 04-08-09, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by reno cool

50K in jacks 9/6 will more than likely comp you several nights and food. They will refund you if you pay up front. But if you book through some third party you probably wont get shit. Check out VPfree to see who has the games you want. Since Jacks is a negative exp game, your likely to get quite a bit for 50k action, especially if you do it in one sitting. Of course your expected loss is $250 and possible loss of>5k.

What do you mean by "pay up front"? Should I book my room by contacting the hotel directly? I do plan on playing at least two ~50k sittings during my stay there, and I know the variance and expected loss of VP in general, thanks to Microgaming and the slew of online casino bonuses that were around a couple of years ago. It paid the rent for several months.

**themajormt** · 04-08-09, 08:53 AM

Matt, I am not a Vegas expert by any means but my experience has been that if you book directly with the hotel they are more likely to offer upgrades and free nights based on play, compared to booking with expedia, etc. Last time I went we stayed at the Monte Carlo and when we got there I asked if there were any suites available and there was and they gave it to me for an additional $25 a night compared to hundreds if I wouldve booked it on my own. I try and keep all my casino action at one place instead of spreading it out and also do the old switcheroo. I will cash in say $1k at the BJ table, get $250 in green and rest in black, and then slowly put the blacks in my pocket and then break down the greens to red so that they see me cash in $1k but then walk away with less... I am not sure if this works but I have always been taken care of...