NCAA Bowl Contest Standings after Day Thirteen

**brooks85** · 01-06-17, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Your claim to fame is that you voted for Trump. Somehow you think that enlightens you. Me I have never needed anyone to make me feel better about myself. It has always been my works. What is your claim to fame? That you can mop a floor better than anyone else?

lol the delivery boy talking about claim to fame

pity you buddy, not joking.

**chico2663** · 01-06-17, 04:09 PM

brooks they pay you a wage to be delivery boy so nope not I

**pabonaparte** · 01-07-17, 05:11 AM

Do we get to see other contestants picks before the game kicks off on Monday?

**seaborneq** · 01-07-17, 08:28 AM

Originally posted by pabonaparte

Do we get to see other contestants picks before the game kicks off on Monday?

That would be great for hedging purposes and awful for surprise and anticipation. Everyone would know where they stood before the game is played

**pabonaparte** · 01-07-17, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by seaborneq

That would be great for hedging purposes and awful for surprise and anticipation. Everyone would know where they stood before the game is played

You are quite right. I am eyeing a huge teaser with Oakland Raiders and Giants tomorrow. Hopefully, all the info is posted well ahead of time.

**brooks85** · 01-07-17, 09:43 AM

they will list everyone's picks before the game

**SBR Forum** · 01-07-17, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

they will list everyone's picks before the game

The spreadsheet in the first post now shows the 4* picks for all who made a play.

**Alfa1234** · 01-07-17, 12:45 PM

Thanks SBR. Going for 2nd now!

**brooks85** · 01-07-17, 12:48 PM

Originally posted by SBR Forum

The spreadsheet in the first post now shows the 4* picks for all who made a play.

thanks

**brooks85** · 01-07-17, 12:51 PM

Let's get this coin-flip going! lol

could you imagine if BTP players had to make a pick on the superbowl worth 10units+(more actually based on the ratio)?

30 units in bowl contest from 15 picks and have to make a 4 unit pick worth over 10% of possible winnable units. Just doesn't make sense. Fix it next year please.

**secretstash** · 01-07-17, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

Let's get this coin-flip going! lol

could you imagine if BTP players had to make a pick on the superbowl worth 10units+(more actually based on the ratio)?

30 units in bowl contest from 15 picks and have to make a 4 unit pick worth over 10% of possible winnable units. Just doesn't make sense. Fix it next year please.

FWIW brooks, this contest sells out every time even with 10+ added spots and fast. The rules have been the same for the contest. I doubt they will change and since everyone knows the rules upfront its fair for all. If they change they would be welcomed, but I don't think they are pressured to change with the results.

-stash

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 01:56 PM

i am out of the running for 1st place . Happy to have shot at 2nd place.

**brooks85** · 01-07-17, 02:49 PM

Originally posted by secretstash

FWIW brooks, this contest sells out every time even with 10+ added spots and fast. The rules have been the same for the contest. I doubt they will change and since everyone knows the rules upfront its fair for all. If they change they would be welcomed, but I don't think they are pressured to change with the results.

-stash

I hear ya, and if they don't change it that's ok. Still awesome contest just hate how to ends every year. Doesn't matter if I'm in first or last, the ending just doesn't make sense.

Change is possible tho, took them forever to change the poker setup for the big tourney and this is the exact same problem, literally identical. Now it's fixed. As the years go on and more people land in first, second, third after their 15 skillful picks they will understand. Poker problem was fixed faster simply because the pool was larger so more people were complaining. But, again, it is the exact same problem in this bowl contest.

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 04:32 PM

I have a question I have Clemson the way I read the standings if clemson covers i would win second place prize of $3,000. Could someone at sbr verify this for me please and thank you.

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 04:45 PM

Nevermind looks like total points is the first tie breaker.

**secretstash** · 01-07-17, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by mintpicks79

I have a question I have Clemson the way I read the standings if clemson covers i would win second place prize of $3,000. Could someone at sbr verify this for me please and thank you.

Originally posted by mintpicks79

Nevermind looks like total points is the first tie breaker.

Yep totals of 55.56.57 and clemson cover you win 2nd. Other wise 3rd or 4th due to tie break 1. Unless it goes under all 3 of you then 2nd tie break of 3*s you win 3rd and 4th chopped.

-stash

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 06:08 PM

Thank you stash for the info ... I was hoping to hedge.

**secretstash** · 01-07-17, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by mintpicks79

Thank you stash for the info ... I was hoping to hedge.

Actually I made a mistake.

You are guaranteed at least 3rd. It is only a 2 way tie not 3 way. So you take 2nd or 3rd not 3rd or 4th guaranteed.

So you can hedge on the 2k+

-stash

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 06:53 PM

interesting . Thank you sir

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 08:09 PM

I dont know about everyone else . It was really racking my brain trying to decide who to pick and hoping enough players picked opposite of me to at least hedge . Luckily it worked it for me.

**mintpicks79** · 01-07-17, 08:12 PM

any math guys out there ? what are the odds clemson covers with total score landing on 55,56 or 57

**seaborneq** · 01-07-17, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by mintpicks79

any math guys out there ? what are the odds clemson covers with total score landing on 55,56 or 57

Not good.

**garvardntl** · 01-07-17, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by mintpicks79

Nevermind looks like total points is the first tie breaker.

Am I reading this correctly? You can still win tie breaker even if your final pick is incorrect?

If Clemson covers (score 32-28), three teams have 24 points
A garvardntl/brooks85
B Noles1992
C igor1965/dgg23

Teams would be ranked the same way, A-B-C from top to bottom, I believe? And number of correct five star picks would never come into play. Or the fact that team A lost the final pick.

**garvardntl** · 01-07-17, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by mintpicks79

Thank you stash for the info ... I was hoping to hedge.

I am confident you either get zero, second place money if Clemson covers and total lands on 55, 56, 57 or third place money in every other scenario.

**secretstash** · 01-07-17, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by garvardntl

Am I reading this correctly? You can still win tie breaker even if your final pick is incorrect?

If Clemson covers (score 32-28), three teams have 24 points
A garvardntl/brooks85
B Noles1992
C igor1965/dgg23

Teams would be ranked the same way, A-B-C from top to bottom, I believe? And number of correct five star picks would never come into play. Or the fact that team A lost the final pick.

Tiebreaker still comes into play either way. But you can definitely be jumped because of it. You have to score between 48-61 or root for under 44 and then it goes to 2nd tie break where you win top prize of the 3 tied due to 3*s.

-stash

**garvardntl** · 01-08-17, 07:37 PM

Watching this Giants-Packers game... Wondering if any hedging should be considered.

Have any Alabama or Clemson players posted anything silly on social media? Anything Odell Beckham-like?

**mintpicks79** · 01-09-17, 10:15 AM

Are we to send bitcoin info to sbr? I see they are paying out tomorrow morning to the winners.

**Noles1992** · 01-09-17, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by garvardntl

Am I reading this correctly? You can still win tie breaker even if your final pick is incorrect?

If Clemson covers (score 32-28), three teams have 24 points
A garvardntl/brooks85
B Noles1992
C igor1965/dgg23

Teams would be ranked the same way, A-B-C from top to bottom, I believe? And number of correct five star picks would never come into play. Or the fact that team A lost the final pick.

Not sure I would come in 2nd if clemson covers, Have myself 4-6th at best?

**secretstash** · 01-09-17, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Noles1992

Not sure I would come in 2nd if clemson covers, Have myself 4-6th at best?

This is closer to correct. Your best scenario is a 44-47 game total with Clemson covering and you break 4th place tie break for 4th. Any total outside of that is a 5th-6th placing for you due to losing both tie-breaks or splitting the prize. So best scenario 4th (total 44-47) and worst is 6th (if Clemson covers and you lose tie-breaks too).

You can safely hedge on the 20k pts based on this and if you win a higher placement, great.

Good luck

-stash

**trytrytry** · 01-09-17, 01:21 PM

where are you seeing the summary of what sides and tiebreakers everyone picked?

**secretstash** · 01-09-17, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by trytrytry

where are you seeing the summary of what sides and tiebreakers everyone picked?

In the same google sheet (below score totals sheet) where it shows everyone's picks from contest. see screenshot.

-stash

**secretstash** · 01-09-17, 01:39 PM

Talk about hard to believe. For last place a handful of people didn't even make a pick so that if Clemson wins (Bama loses), then 9 points becomes the new low for a 3 way tie break and ends up skipping over 5 people. That means Convick and I don't even have to lose to be eligible for last place prize. Hard to believe they didn't submit one when near last but lack of a pick = not in contention. I guess they didn't read the rules or they didn't need the $500...

-stash

	ArunSh	9 .................. 13 - Bama - TB 63
Soxsfan9	8.5	12.5
reigle9	8	12
Cuse0323	8	12
Slipknot26	7	11 Clemson -6.5 TB 64
CarolinaDaze	7	11
hawk 5	6	10
secretstash	5	9 - Clemson TB 58
convick	5	9 - Clemson TB 45

**garvardntl** · 01-09-17, 01:56 PM

Originally posted by Noles1992

Not sure I would come in 2nd if clemson covers, Have myself 4-6th at best?

If Clemson covers, you are at 24 points. Tied with two others, whose tiebreakers are 48 and 62. You with tiebreaker 44 need a low scoring game, and Clemson covering, for optimal result. And even then sportsfun, mintpicks79 and igor1965 are out of your reach so you'll end up in 4th.

In my earlier post I just wanted to look at an example where tiebreaker comes into play. Your current position won't let you get better than the 4th.

**Noles1992** · 01-09-17, 02:43 PM

Ok thanks just making sure before I hedge pts bet

**Noles1992** · 01-09-17, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by secretstash

This is closer to correct. Your best scenario is a 44-47 game total with Clemson covering and you break 4th place tie break for 4th. Any total outside of that is a 5th-6th placing for you due to losing both tie-breaks or splitting the prize. So best scenario 4th (total 44-47) and worst is 6th (if Clemson covers and you lose tie-breaks too).

You can safely hedge on the 20k pts based on this and if you win a higher placement, great.

Good luck

-stash

Thanks Stash!