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  • dlowilly
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    • 11-09-16
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    #141
    Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
    Are you blind? Trump still has 2 pending cases of 2 woman accusing him of RAPE, including one when she was 13 years old. He also was accused of violent rape by his ex wife. This was ALL before he ran for office. Hello???
    It gets so old disproving bull shit from biased people.

    The case of the 13 year old is anonymous. An obvious smear job in which the accuser can't be questioned, the claims researched, or the sources confirmed.

    The Ivana rape accusation was during their divorce and Ivana years ago retracted it:

    “During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me,” the Ivana Trump statement said. “[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a ‘rape,’ but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense.”


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    • dlowilly
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      #142
      Originally posted by jtoler
      Those are Trump's words in quotation silly, which is why Politifact put this beside it.

      Why are you presenting Politifact as some gospel of truth? It has a well known widely recognized bias against the right.

      Of course we know why you are though
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      • jtoler
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        #143
        Originally posted by dlowilly
        Why are you presenting Politifact as some gospel of truth? It has a well known widely recognized bias against the right.

        Of course we know why you are though
        Lol another Trumptard spinner. Jibby brought up Politifact to exonerate Trump not me.
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        • dlowilly
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          #144
          Originally posted by jtoler
          Lol another Trumptard spinner. Jibby brought up Politifact to exonerate Trump not me.
          Jibbby referenced something Trump said. You referenced Politifact's opinion about it. Stop it
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          • Auto Donk
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            #145
            there's no money up for grabs in the criminal trial.....

            i don' t know if she has a civil suit on file or not; even if she does, losing the criminal trial wouldn't mean she'd lose the civil suit if she does have one on file, due to the differing burden of proof (beyond any reasonable doubt vs. "preponderance of the evidence" , ie., tipping the scales ever so slightly, burden in a civil trial......

            i don't think the prosecution felt the need to strongy urge the other witnesses were relevant to establish a "pattern of behavior" or not, or what the pre-trial rulling on that point was..... regardless, one holdout juror who would never convict is all Coz had in his favor..... he better hope he gets that lucky in the second trial, or kiss his ass goodbye.....
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            • jtoler
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              #146
              Originally posted by dlowilly
              Jibbby referenced something Trump said. You referenced Politifact's opinion about it. Stop it
              Umm he posted a politifact link saying it was proof the hoes allegations were debunked. Do you do drugs also.
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              • Mac4Lyfe
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                #147
                Originally posted by dlowilly
                It gets so old disproving bull shit from biased people.
                Have you read my posts? I don't believe any of these Trump accusers have any merit just like these Cosby accusers. Anyone reporting events many years after the fact sounds like a money grab to me.

                My main point is... Why are so many people emotionally defending Trump but roasting Cosby?
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                • jtoler
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                  Have you read my posts? I don't believe any of these Trump accusers have any merit just like these Cosby accusers. Anyone reporting events many years after the fact sounds like a money grab to me.

                  My main point is... Why are so many people emotionally defending Trump but roasting Cosby?
                  Race always seem to be the only noticeable difference in these type things.
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Auto Donk
                    there's no money up for grabs in the criminal trial.....
                    i don' t know if she has a civil suit on file or not; even if she does, losing the criminal trial wouldn't mean she'd lose the civil suit if she does have one on file, due to the differing burden of proof (beyond any reasonable doubt vs. "preponderance of the evidence" , ie., tipping the scales ever so slightly, burden in a civil trial......
                    i don't think the prosecution felt the need to strongy urge the other witnesses were relevant to establish a "pattern of behavior" or not, or what the pre-trial rulling on that point was..... regardless, one holdout juror who would never convict is all Coz had in his favor..... he better hope he gets that lucky in the second trial, or kiss his ass goodbye.....
                    Come on Donk - you know better than this. You setup a criminal trial knowing that you can't get a guilty charge, then you appeal because you are emotionally scarred by the results. Then you file the civil suit and laugh your ass off to the bank.

                    This accuser, just like all the other accusers, just like the Trump accusers are in it ONLY for the money or the publicity which brings the money. They have nothing to lose and hope they can get some crumbs.
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                    • dlowilly
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                      Have you read my posts? I don't believe any of these Trump accusers have any merit just like these Cosby accusers. Anyone reporting events many years after the fact sounds like a money grab to me.

                      My main point is... Why are so many people emotionally defending Trump but roasting Cosby?
                      Some main differences are:

                      Motive-These Cosby accusers have nothing to gain. The Trump accusers at the very least didn't want him to be president. That wish alone has caused many people to go nuts.

                      Accusations-All the Cosby cases include actual sexual assault, most involving drugging. The few actual rape accusation cases with Trump have no legitimacy so most of the other cases are pinching ass or making her feel bad.

                      Accusers-At least some of the claims by Trump accusers have been refuted by eyewitnesses or shown to be inconsistent based on the accusers behavior before and after alleged incidents. Not so with Cosby
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                      • BuckyOne
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                        #151
                        There has to be underlying issues which the 5th amendment protects so we have to guess? Throw that out and administer truth serum to everybody and what do we find? What could the real truth be?

                        It must have always been about money. The chicks must have been lead on that Cosby actually liked them. They were looking at a possible life of luxury. Did not file a legal complaint in a timely manner. These women might be more pissed off about being led on than the sex?

                        In my mind the possession of illegal drugs is a serious crime and nobody seems to be worried about that. Not one search warrant or illegal possession indictment. This was in dangerous territory from a dosage standpoint. I don't think 3 quaaludes would paralyze somebody from the eyeballs down. If they did that is dangerously close to OD. It is almost miraculous he did not kill somebody if they were as stoned as they say.

                        If just one of them had come forward with the illegal drug complaint Cosby would have been up the river a long time ago. But, that would not have made any of them a dime.

                        Why is it a crime to have non consensual sex in this case but apparently not a crime to traffic in illegal drugs??? Is there any culpability by consensually ingesting an unknown drug?
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                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by dlowilly
                          Some main differences are:
                          Motive-These Cosby accusers have nothing to gain. The Trump accusers at the very least didn't want him to be president. That wish alone has caused many people to go nuts.
                          Sure - these accusers have nothing to gain in civil court against Cosby who is worth half a billion dollars. Do you really think the Trump accusers cared more about Trump being president over getting paid? Are you serious? All these skanks are looking for 15 minutes of fame and pot of gold. Accusations-All the Cosby cases include actual sexual assault, most involving drugging. The few actual rape accusation cases with Trump have no legitimacy so most of the other cases are pinching ass or making her feel bad.
                          Drugging is not sexual assault first off. 2nd, both cases are sexual assault cases. A few of Trump accusers, including the 13 years old said he penetrated them. There is no difference
                          Accusers-At least some of the claims by Trump accusers have been refuted by eyewitnesses or shown to be inconsistent based on the accusers behavior before and after alleged incidents. Not so with Cosby
                          What are you talking about??? These are all cases of "She" said the successful, rich man sexually accosted me. What does a refuted by eyewitness have to do with anything? What does 1 of many inconsistent behaviors have to do with anything? All of these woman have been inconsistent. All of them have been refuted. All the woman in both cases ALL have ZERO proof and ALL of them in Cosby's case came up with these claims long after the Statute of Limitations had passed.
                          You are severely blinded if you don't see the similarities. Several woman accuse rich, successful man of sexual assault many years after said incidents with absolutely no proof. What else am I missing???

                          Our president even said that Cosby should defend himself when the allegations first came to light. and even still, you think Cosby is guilty for some strange reason???
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by BuckyOne
                            There has to be underlying issues which the 5th amendment protects so we have to guess? Throw that out and administer truth serum to everybody and what do we find? What could the real truth be?

                            It must have always been about money. The chicks must have been lead on that Cosby actually liked them. They were looking at a possible life of luxury. Did not file a legal complaint in a timely manner. These women might be more pissed off about being led on than the sex?

                            In my mind the possession of illegal drugs is a serious crime and nobody seems to be worried about that. Not one search warrant or illegal possession indictment. This was in dangerous territory from a dosage standpoint. I don't think 3 quaaludes would paralyze somebody from the eyeballs down. If they did that is dangerously close to OD. It is almost miraculous he did not kill somebody if they were as stoned as they say.

                            If just one of them had come forward with the illegal drug complaint Cosby would have been up the river a long time ago. But, that would not have made any of them a dime.

                            Why is it a crime to have non consensual sex in this case but apparently not a crime to traffic in illegal drugs??? Is there any culpability by consensually ingesting an unknown drug?
                            Maybe some girls did OD and die at the hands of Bill Cosby.. No one checked for shallow graves in his back yard and or a foul odor back then.....
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                            • dlowilly
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                              #154
                              Some main differences are:
                              Motive-These Cosby accusers have nothing to gain. The Trump accusers at the very least didn't want him to be president. That wish alone has caused many people to go nuts.
                              Sure - these accusers have nothing to gain in civil court against Cosby who is worth half a billion dollars. Do you really think the Trump accusers cared more about Trump being president over getting paid? Are you serious? All these skanks are looking for 15 minutes of fame and pot of gold. Huge difference. Bill Cosby is a washed up sitcom has been. There is no money to be made from suing him because of the statute of limitations. There is no fame to be gained because like I said, he is irrelevant. As proof of this, can you name these women besides the one who's within the statute of limitations? Trump however was extremely relevant. Running for POTUS against the rabid left and the spurned right who deal in fake news and unnamed sources, paying handsomely for interviews with the "victims". One group of accusers has motive, the other doesn't. Accusations-All the Cosby cases include actual sexual assault, most involving drugging. The few actual rape accusation cases with Trump have no legitimacy so most of the other cases are pinching ass or making her feel bad.
                              Drugging is not sexual assault first off. 2nd, both cases are sexual assault cases. A few of Trump accusers, including the 13 years old said he penetrated them. There is no difference Who said drugging is sexual assault? Drugging someone to commit sexual assault makes it aggravated and premeditated. Drugging and raping someone is not even comparable to a guy inviting someone to his hotel room or pinching a girl on the ass. The 13 yr old case is preposterous. An anonymous accuser that's going to remember someone who was 20 years younger when she was raped at age 13, and that man she supposedly just remembered 20 years later happens to be running for President now? Please. She dropped the case anyway because she realized she didn't know wtf she was talking about. And once again, Ivana only made a rape accusation during a divorce, she clarified there was no rape after it was all over. Big difference between the Cosby accusations and the Trump accusations.
                              Accusers-At least some of the claims by Trump accusers have been refuted by eyewitnesses or shown to be inconsistent based on the accusers behavior before and after alleged incidents. Not so with Cosby
                              What are you talking about??? These are all cases of "She" said the successful, rich man sexually accosted me. What does a refuted by eyewitness have to do with anything? What does 1 of many inconsistent behaviors have to do with anything? All of these woman have been inconsistent. All of them have been refuted. All the woman in both cases ALL have ZERO proof and ALL of them in Cosby's case came up with these claims long after the Statute of Limitations had passed. What am I talking about? What are you talking about? What do you mean all the Cosby accusers have been refuted. Once again, the Cosby accusers had nothing to gain but exposing the truth about a hypocrite of a man in Cosby. How does not coming forward and accusing him at that time refute them? With Trump I'm talking about concrete evidence and testimony that refute their claims. The Englishman Gilberthorpe remembers being on the flight across from Trump and his accuser who says he groped her, and Gilberthorpe says it never happened. He could not have known that the airline didn't still have the flight records to corroborate. Then you've got this woman who was on the Apprentice accusing Trump. Her own family has criticized her motives, and her behavior after the alleged incident makes no sense, as she continued to be complimentary to him and seek his influence and company. Stop forcing this comparison of Cosby with Trump, it's embarrassing.
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #155
                                Funny thing is Bill Cosby could have probably gotten any kind of woman he wanted, paid for them, etc.. Instead he got his rocks off by drugging these young girls until they passed out..

                                Sick bastard.. Should be locked up, what goes around comes around, just like what happened with OJ, he ended up in jail anyways... Bill will have his coming soon.. Maybe he'll just stroke out or die any day now as I wouldn't be surprised..

                                God don't like ugly...
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                                • Grits n' Gravy
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                  Have you read my posts? I don't believe any of these Trump accusers have any merit just like these Cosby accusers. Anyone reporting events many years after the fact sounds like a money grab to me.

                                  My main point is... Why are so many people emotionally defending Trump but roasting Cosby?
                                  Maybe because Trump allegations didn't involve sexual contact between a man and an incapacitated female. I view Trump allegations more as a spoiled kid who is grabby with his hands while the Cosby ones are very disturbing and sinister.
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                                  • dlowilly
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                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                    Maybe because Trump allegations didn't involve sexual contact between a man and an incapacitated female. I view Trump allegations more as a spoiled kid who is grabby with his hands while the Cosby ones are very disturbing and sinister.
                                    OMG the world might be ending, I completely agree with this
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                                    • jtoler
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                                      #158
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                                      • Mac4Lyfe
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                        Maybe because Trump allegations didn't involve sexual contact between a man and an incapacitated female. I view Trump allegations more as a spoiled kid who is grabby with his hands while the Cosby ones are very disturbing and sinister.
                                        What the hell? Why are you trying to gauge the level of sexual assault? Sexual assault is sexual assault is sexual assault. It is not a spoiled kid grabbing ass. We're talking about a grown ass man sexually assaulting someone. We're talking about woman reporting an assault. We're talking about a 13 year old who said she was raped, then she disappeared out of fear for her life.

                                        Now, I reiterate that I don't believe NONE of these woman. But if true for Cosby or Trump, they both are disturbing and sinister. To even try to imply that Trumps allegations which include molesting a child is less awful is bullshit. They are all awful if true.

                                        Now if they are all false, why would it matter what the charge was? If someone accused Trump and/or Cosby of raping sheep, or young baby dogs. If false, why would the charge hold merit? If Cosby and Trump are innocent then why are you holding Trump's allegations less? They both would be bullshit.

                                        Let me say 1 more time because I think you guys are missing the point. Why would it be sinister if Cosby was having consensual sex with these woman and if they were drug users and liked to get high while having sex? Back in those days, many men and woman indulged in sex and drugs. Many people woke up the next day laying next to someone they didn't know. Then to hear these woman admit that they used drugs and often didn't know where they were. Now you want to tie it to Cosby? Or years later several woman come out and say Trump assaulted them conveniently when he's running for President? My common sense meter tells me that there is no way in hell that 50+ woman could say they were drugged AND NOT ONE report it to authorities. NO WAY IN HELL does 50+ woman get sexually abused and wait 25+ years to admit it. I'm not saying it didn't happen but without proof there is no way in hell that I could convict any man or woman, no matter how heinous are the allegations.
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                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                          Maybe because Trump allegations didn't involve sexual contact between a man and an incapacitated female. I view Trump allegations more as a spoiled kid who is grabby with his hands while the Cosby allegations are very disturbing and sinister.
                                          You are missing the point. These are ALL allegations...

                                          Mike Tyson did some of the best fighting years of his life in jail by a money hungry bitch that accused him of rape. The girl told her roommate that she was going over to see him in her best "fuk me" outfit. Came back to the hotel room, went to sleep soundly. Days later she accuses Tyson of rape. Then tried to exhort him of money. Told him she'd drop it if he gave her a million dollars. His dumb ass refused.

                                          I cannot stand anyone taking advantage over someone else. Especially a man raping another man, woman or especially a child. I think they are the worst people on earth and should be dealt with. BUT, I really can't stand a lying ass woman that accuses a man in order to gain money or notoriety. They are just as bad as the rapist, if not worst.
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                                          • jtoler
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                                            #161
                                            I dont think people understand that Mac, actually on so many levels this should have never went to trial. I read some initial stuff not only did Cosby have an agreement that he wouldnt be prosecuted since he gave statements years ago, her story changed dramatically numerous times. Many lawyers wouldnt take her case and it was dropped also. People play stupid when they want to, they already know when Allred shows up its bs. As soon as she showed up with Trump chicks many wrote it off. Anyway its only 1 chick for the trial, if you look at initial stuff youll see the games. She tried to set the scene by saying she wasnt feeling well but went to see Cosby, who isnt a doctor, and he gave her Benedryl, perhaps she got this notion because another female was in the news saying she was drugged. So Constand comes back a year later only after being unemployed and living with her mother. Instead of going to police she went to a lawyer, Business Insider wrote that after she filed the lawsuit in the deposition Constand said she can PRODUCE more than a dozen other women with similar stories. Sounds exactly like a covert hitjob to me. She isnt "supposed" to know any of the women who came forth. This has more implications also as all the other major stories always do and that is they divide people, good for gov't, not good for the citizen. Public opinion found Cosby guilty of drugging over 60 women with not one shred of evidence. If you asked people what he was on trial for theyd say 50 plus women when that wasnt the case. Its simply amazing.
                                            Last edited by jtoler; 06-21-17, 03:48 PM.
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                                            • Mac4Lyfe
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                                              #162
                                              50+ woman and NOT ONE went to the police. GTFOH. Not one reported it to anyone for decades. Not 1 fukkin rape kit. Not one went to the hospital? You mean to tell me that 50+ woman said they were drugged and not one went to a doctor? I got food poisoning once and I went to the hospital. Who wakes up out of a drugged fueled stupor, pussy dripping and sore from pounding and not go to the police??? Only a skank ass, that's who.
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                Jibbby referenced something Trump said. You referenced Politifact's opinion about it. Stop it
                                                My posts always get twisted and turned around to make me look bad, now I know how Trump feels with his tweets ...
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                                                • jtoler
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                                                  #164
                                                  Because they are lying. Beverly Johnson's manager said she often talked about meeting Cosby in which she later say he drugged her at. He said she always said he was nice and his wife was there and never said anything about being drugged or anything then. One of Johnson's ex-bf who tried to sue CNN for defamation said that she always spoke extremely high of Cosby and in 4 years of their relationship never brought up any drugged nor rape nor anything negative about Cosby. Lol. That certainly wouldnt happen if you were in a relationship with someone for 4 years, lololol.
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                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                    Because they are lying. Beverly Johnson's manager said she often talked about meeting Cosby in which she later say he drugged her at. He said she always said he was nice and his wife was there and never said anything about being drugged or anything then. One of Johnson's ex-bf who tried to sue CNN for defamation said that she always spoke extremely high of Cosby and in 4 years of their relationship never brought up any drugged nor rape nor anything negative about Cosby. Lol. That certainly wouldnt happen if you were in a relationship with someone for 4 years, lololol.
                                                    All those models used to be on drugs. Everyone of them. I seen many of them being passed around like blunts. Janice Dickerson slept with every man in Hollywood, mostly while being passed out but somehow Cosby drugged her. No bitch, you use to drug yourself.

                                                    Now, if any of them have actual proof than that's a different story. We all know that that will never happen.
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                                                    • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                      What the hell? Why are you trying to gauge the level of sexual assault? Sexual assault is sexual assault is sexual assault. It is not a spoiled kid grabbing ass. We're talking about a grown ass man sexually assaulting someone. We're talking about woman reporting an assault. We're talking about a 13 year old who said she was raped, then she disappeared out of fear for her life.

                                                      Now, I reiterate that I don't believe NONE of these woman. But if true for Cosby or Trump, they both are disturbing and sinister. To even try to imply that Trumps allegations which include molesting a child is less awful is bullshit. They are all awful if true.

                                                      Now if they are all false, why would it matter what the charge was? If someone accused Trump and/or Cosby of raping sheep, or young baby dogs. If false, why would the charge hold merit? If Cosby and Trump are innocent then why are you holding Trump's allegations less? They both would be bullshit.

                                                      Let me say 1 more time because I think you guys are missing the point. Why would it be sinister if Cosby was having consensual sex with these woman and if they were drug users and liked to get high while having sex? Back in those days, many men and woman indulged in sex and drugs. Many people woke up the next day laying next to someone they didn't know. Then to hear these woman admit that they used drugs and often didn't know where they were. Now you want to tie it to Cosby? Or years later several woman come out and say Trump assaulted them conveniently when he's running for President? My common sense meter tells me that there is no way in hell that 50+ woman could say they were drugged AND NOT ONE report it to authorities. NO WAY IN HELL does 50+ woman get sexually abused and wait 25+ years to admit it. I'm not saying it didn't happen but without proof there is no way in hell that I could convict any man or woman, no matter how heinous are the allegations.
                                                      I read a bunch on both Trump and Cosby's allegations while traveling the past few months and the Cosby stuff seems much more credible. 30+ years ago when much of the alleged assaults occurred, women were far less likely to speak out and/or go to the authorities than they do now. I would guess that it would be even more difficult when you are reporting a rich, powerful and famous man. Ultimately we will likely never know the truth about either guy but from what court documents I have read, Cosby is guilty of quite a few crimes.
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                                                      • RoyBacon
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                                                        #167
                                                        State should try for a plea and get 3 months in jail and 1 year home detention on something reduced.

                                                        The litigation will go on forever and no jury with at least one black on it is going to convict.

                                                        Impossible to arrive at guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The most damning part of the case is the 72 phone calls. Not sure I've spoken to anyone 72 times. She took pills voluntarily that Cosby indicated would relax her. It looks like they did have a fling and Cosby liked her impaired and she went along. Kind of like trying to get a gf drunk.
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                                                        • Mac4Lyfe
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                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                          State should try for a plea and get 3 months in jail and 1 year home detention on something reduced.
                                                          The litigation will go on forever and no jury with at least one black on it is going to convict.
                                                          Impossible to arrive at guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The most damning part of the case is the 72 phone calls. Not sure I've spoken to anyone 72 times. She took pills voluntarily that Cosby indicated would relax her. It looks like they did have a fling and Cosby liked her impaired and she went along. Kind of like trying to get a gf drunk.
                                                          Why must we always interject race into this? You don't have to be black or blind to see that you can't convict him. Would you honestly convict a man based on no evidence? I don't give a shit what color Cosby is. There's no evidence that he committed any of these allegations. It amazes me that some of you want to convict a man with ZERO proof???

                                                          Unfortunately, I was called to jury duty a couple of years ago and I tried my best to not get selected. Damn, me and 1 other guy got selected. It was a Hispanic guy (with a prior felony) arrested for having a concealed weapon under the passenger seat of his car. This is in Texas mind you where we love our guns. The police officer illegally stopped the guy and search his car illegally as well. He's driving on the opposite side of a 4 lane highway and he said that he smelled marijuana emanating from the guys car. GTFOH. The guy's car is at least 20 feet from his, they both were going at least 30 mph opposite ways and the guy had his windows up. How the fukk can you smell MJ? So he makes a uturn pulls the guy over and detains him for over an hour. He eventually calls for back up and put the guy in hand cuffs and found a gun under the passenger seat. The guy said that he let his friend drive use the car the week before and must have left his gun under the seat. The gun was registered to his friend. The police took fingerprints on the gun but it wasn't his prints and they didn't test for DNA because it cost too much money.

                                                          Would you believe that half the jurors thought he was guilty as hell. Why? Because he looked guilty. He looks like my ex husband. His eyes are lying, etc. WTF? Nothing based on facts or evidence, they just FELT that he was guilty. It took 5 days to convince them that the officer wrongly stopped him and illegally searched. But that didn't even matter because they never proved that he knew the gun was under the seat. If his prints or DNA was on the gun he would be guilty. I spent 5 damn days with a bunch of idiots who wanted to make decisions because of feelings and wanted to roast him because he was Hispanic. Some of them even said that we should say he was guilty on 1 charge but acquit on the other charges because he would probably just get parole.

                                                          The verdict was not guilty on all charges. Both the defense and prosecution came in to thank us for our time/effort. I ask the prosecutor, "hey we were all wondering. What would he have gotten if we found him guilty on one of the charges". He tells us 20 years minimum with no chance of parole. WTF? He could have killed someone and gotten out quicker. These idiots could have sent this guy to prison forever. You put your freedom in the hands of these idiots and you never know the results.
                                                          Last edited by Mac4Lyfe; 06-21-17, 07:27 PM.
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                                                          • RoyBacon
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                                                            • 09-21-05
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                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                            Why must we always interject race into this? You don't have to be black or blind to see that you can't convict him. Would you honestly convict a man based on no evidence? I don't give a shit what color Cosby is. There's no evidence that he committed any of these allegations. It amazes me that some of you want to convict a man with ZERO proof???
                                                            Race is simply a real factor in this kind of trial(see OJ Simpson). But I also agree the state did not seem to have even close to sufficient credible evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt.

                                                            Which is why I would be looking for a deal. At least a slap on the wrist plea deal would let Bill go home, let the hoe collect a few more million plus book deal, prosecutor & judge and everyone is happy. And we could all forget Bill.
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48311

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                              Race is simply a real factor in this kind of trial(see OJ Simpson). But I also agree the state did not seem to have even close to sufficient credible evidence to convict beyond a reasonable doubt.
                                                              Which is why I would be looking for a deal. At least a slap on the wrist plea deal would let Bill go home, let the hoe collect a few more million plus book deal, prosecutor & judge and everyone is happy. And we could all forget Bill.
                                                              There is no way I would take a deal when the prosecution has zero evidence. The defense didn't even call 1 witness. They didn't have to. This case is a wrap. He should try to make a deal with her on the side though because he's going to lose a civil trial even though these bitches have no proof.

                                                              I think money has much more to do with these cases than race. If you have money, you are sure to do less or no time. Look up the statistics of people who just make bail versus those that can't. It's staggering.
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                                                              • dlowilly
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-09-16
                                                                • 13862

                                                                #171
                                                                Two jurors prevented a guilty verdict in Bill Cosby's trial



                                                                10 jurors were white, 2 were black. Gee I wonder which two it was
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                                                                • dlowilly
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-09-16
                                                                  • 13862

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  Why must we always interject race into this? You don't have to be black or blind to see that you can't convict him. Would you honestly convict a man based on no evidence? I don't give a shit what color Cosby is. There's no evidence that he committed any of these allegations. It amazes me that some of you want to convict a man with ZERO proof???

                                                                  Unfortunately, I was called to jury duty a couple of years ago and I tried my best to not get selected. Damn, me and 1 other guy got selected. It was a Hispanic guy (with a prior felony) arrested for having a concealed weapon under the passenger seat of his car. This is in Texas mind you where we love our guns. The police officer illegally stopped the guy and search his car illegally as well. He's driving on the opposite side of a 4 lane highway and he said that he smelled marijuana emanating from the guys car. GTFOH. The guy's car is at least 20 feet from his, they both were going at least 30 mph opposite ways and the guy had his windows up. How the fukk can you smell MJ? So he makes a uturn pulls the guy over and detains him for over an hour. He eventually calls for back up and put the guy in hand cuffs and found a gun under the passenger seat. The guy said that he let his friend drive use the car the week before and must have left his gun under the seat. The gun was registered to his friend. The police took fingerprints on the gun but it wasn't his prints and they didn't test for DNA because it cost too much money.

                                                                  Would you believe that half the jurors thought he was guilty as hell. Why? Because he looked guilty. He looks like my ex husband. His eyes are lying, etc. WTF? Nothing based on facts or evidence, they just FELT that he was guilty. It took 5 days to convince them that the officer wrongly stopped him and illegally searched. But that didn't even matter because they never proved that he knew the gun was under the seat. If his prints or DNA was on the gun he would be guilty. I spent 5 damn days with a bunch of idiots who wanted to make decisions because of feelings and wanted to roast him because he was Hispanic. Some of them even said that we should say he was guilty on 1 charge but acquit on the other charges because he would probably just get parole.

                                                                  The verdict was not guilty on all charges. Both the defense and prosecution came in to thank us for our time/effort. I ask the prosecutor, "hey we were all wondering. What would he have gotten if we found him guilty on one of the charges". He tells us 20 years minimum with no chance of parole. WTF? He could have killed someone and gotten out quicker. These idiots could have sent this guy to prison forever. You put your freedom in the hands of these idiots and you never know the results.
                                                                  We? Try black jurors interject it. Jurors have a duty to be impartial and objective. Black jurors have and continue to piss on that duty. To disagree with that statement is nothing but comical.
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                                                                  • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                                    • 48311

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                    Two jurors prevented a guilty verdict in Bill Cosby's trial

                                                                    10 jurors were white, 2 were black. Gee I wonder which two it was
                                                                    Then I guess the only 2 smart jurors were black. How do you know the 2 jurors deadlocked was black?

                                                                    10 jurors finding him guilty is absolutely sickening if true. How any of those jurors can find a man guilty with ZERO proof is a fukking injustice. This country is going to shit. If it could happen to him, it could happen to you but you don't even realize it. Too many damn stupid people in this country.

                                                                    I'll ask once again - what facts do you or anyone have that he is guilty? We now have a friend of this girl who has sworn testimony that this girl was lying. Now, why would her friend say that? Because even she knows this bitch is a gold digger.
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                                                                    • The Giant
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-21-12
                                                                      • 21480

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Mac, do you believe Bill Cosby raped ANY women in the last 50 years?

                                                                      If the answer is yes, you should be ashamed of yourself for sticking up for him.
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                                                                      • Mac4Lyfe
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                                        • 48311

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by dlowilly
                                                                        We? Try black jurors interject it. Jurors have a duty to be impartial and objective. Black jurors have and continue to piss on that duty. To disagree with that statement is nothing but comical.
                                                                        Dude - you wouldn't know impartial or objective if it kicked you in the ass. You think Cosby is guilty but Trump is innocent which is the definition of hypocrisy. You piss on the constitution with your stupid racist rants.
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