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  • k13
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-16-10
    • 18053

    #14561
    The lower it goes the better.
    Just buy the stocks you like cheaper.
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    • homie1975
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 12-24-13
      • 15442

      #14562
      Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
      Every one relax, it's not time to go parachuting out the windows just yet. We have finally reached a support area today.
      PUMPer !! great to see you man!!

      actually i do not believe today's support line will hold.

      i see us lower by friday's close.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82478

        #14563
        Originally posted by k13
        The lower it goes the better.
        Just buy the stocks you like cheaper.
        That's a good point. Bought some this morning and they are up already. This is why you need to have like 25-50% cash in your portfolio to buy when is oversold and then sit back until it happens again.
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        • trobin31
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-09-14
          • 9853

          #14564
          We are absolutely going to get a generational buying opportunity just not yet. It happens almost everytime we get GOP president, 10 year double inverting, Giga trendlines going back to Great Depression getting kissed above head. Once whatever blackswan is lined up to occur happens then the helicopter money will start to rain. They are already setting the stage saying supposed DOGE savings will be distributed to citizens. My guess is some crack in the cyber or financial system occurs, A US stable coin is announced then everyone gets their money in crypto. For this reason Coinbase is probably worth a long term investment. I feel we are still in stage 5 run up at least this year.
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          • homie1975
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-24-13
            • 15442

            #14565
            pure manipulation:


            PoliticsTrump could scale back Canada, Mexico tariffs Wednesday, Lutnick says

            Published Tue, Mar 4 20255:18 PM ESTUpdated An Hour Ago

            Kevin Breuninger@KevinWilliamB




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            Key Points
            • President Donald Trump will “probably” announce a compromise with Canada and Mexico as early as Wednesday, which could scale back his new 25% tariffs on top U.S trading partners, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said.
            • The comments came after the U.S. stock market limped to a close for a second day of sharp declines.
            • The Trump administration enacted sweeping tariffs on Canadian and Mexican imports after putting them on pause for a month.







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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82478

              #14566
              Only 6 weeks with Trump shenanigans of trying to "fix" Biden's economy and stock market that was not doing good. At this point someone needs to yell in his face that if it ain't broke don't fix it!
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              • homie1975
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-24-13
                • 15442

                #14567
                7 YEAR ANNIVERSARY of the START of this thread !!!!

                Thank you so very much to all who have contributed, past, present and future !!!
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                • d2bets
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 39990

                  #14568
                  The Trump Crash continues. When you thrash around and break things without knowing what you're doing, things get broken. Go figure.
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                  • homie1975
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-24-13
                    • 15442

                    #14569
                    Originally posted by d2bets
                    The Trump Crash continues. When you thrash around and break things without knowing what you're doing, things get broken. Go figure.
                    a bull in a china shop and we are "the china" lol
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                    • d2bets
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 08-10-05
                      • 39990

                      #14570
                      Originally posted by homie1975
                      a bull in a china shop and we are "the china" lol
                      The market and businesses in the USA can absorb and thrive under most conditions and policies and direction. But the one thing the market and businesses can't absorb is complete and utter uncertainty and instability and day-to-day shifts in policy. Businesses can't plan under those conditions, and if you can't plan well you can't do business.
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                      • Itsamazing777
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-14-12
                        • 12602

                        #14571
                        You people don't understand that a small fluctuation at first is normal. Long term is the goal. Rates will go down stocks will surge. Only a matter of time
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                        • d2bets
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 08-10-05
                          • 39990

                          #14572
                          Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                          You people don't understand that a small fluctuation at first is normal. Long term is the goal. Rates will go down stocks will surge. Only a matter of time
                          Stocks generally ultimately go higher, but the market is speaking and the market does not like the uncertainty and neither do businesses. It is possibly that it might take awhile to recover. Trump was handed a great economy on platter and he is doing his darndest to eff it up.
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                          • guitarjosh
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-25-07
                            • 5738

                            #14573
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            The Trump Crash continues. When you thrash around and break things without knowing what you're doing, things get broken. Go figure.
                            The S&P 500 is down 6% from an all time high. Did you call the over 20% drop in 2022 the Biden Crash?
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                            • trobin31
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-09-14
                              • 9853

                              #14574
                              S&P Performance after two straight +20% years usually poor the 3rd year. Especially in the 2nd half.
                              Unless this AI boom is really a repeat of dotcom where 1995/96 was followed by 30% in ‘97, hard to make a case for an up year.
                              currently more than 50% chance for rate cut in June & odds for more than 3 cuts rose recently
                              Last edited by trobin31; 03-07-25, 08:53 PM.
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                              • d2bets
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 08-10-05
                                • 39990

                                #14575
                                Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                The S&P 500 is down 6% from an all time high. Did you call the over 20% drop in 2022 the Biden Crash?
                                Market had already risen before that in 2022. I'm afraid this is just the start, but I do hope I'm wrong.
                                Next 4 years will be very rocky. I'd be happy enough with a flat 4 years and survival.
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82478

                                  #14576
                                  Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                  You people don't understand that a small fluctuation at first is normal. Long term is the goal. Rates will go down stocks will surge. Only a matter of time
                                  The stocks will surge again when a Democrat is in charge of the country. All Republican presidents the last 45 years have given the country high inflation and tanked the stock market. Do some research. Sell everything now and wait 4 more years to invest again. Put in money market account and earn 4% before you lose it all with Trump.
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                                  • Itsamazing777
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 11-14-12
                                    • 12602

                                    #14577
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    The stocks will surge again when a Democrat is in charge of the country. All Republican presidents the last 45 years have given the country high inflation and tanked the stock market. Do some research. Sell everything now and wait 4 more years to invest again. Put in money market account and earn 4% before you lose it all with Trump.
                                    A Democrat isn't going to be in office for a long long time...
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                                    • pavyracer
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 04-12-07
                                      • 82478

                                      #14578
                                      Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                      A Democrat isn't going to be in office for a long long time...
                                      Well I hope the 4% on your savings will last a while before you run out of funds with 10% inflation for ever. Let us know how poor you are in a long time.
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                                      • Madison
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-16-11
                                        • 6362

                                        #14579
                                        Good, Bad, indifferent, it's good to see a little commentary in here.
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                                        • guitarjosh
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-25-07
                                          • 5738

                                          #14580
                                          Originally posted by d2bets
                                          Market had already risen before that in 2022. I'm afraid this is just the start, but I do hope I'm wrong.
                                          Next 4 years will be very rocky. I'd be happy enough with a flat 4 years and survival.
                                          The problem is that by late 2023 the market hadn't really gone anywhere when adjusted for inflation. It rose in 2021 because of all the stimulus. The economy might tank under Trump, but a lot of that will be because of what he inherited from Biden, like the aftermath of an inverted yield curve, FHA guarantees subprime loans which can turn into 2008 II, etc.

                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                          The stocks will surge again when a Democrat is in charge of the country. All Republican presidents the last 45 years have given the country high inflation and tanked the stock market. Do some research. Sell everything now and wait 4 more years to invest again. Put in money market account and earn 4% before you lose it all with Trump.
                                          Reagan & Volker crushed inflation and gave us a strong stock market. In 45 years, we've had 3 democrats as president. The NASDAQ & S&P didn't really do anything in Clinton's first 2 years and Biden's first 3 years when you factor in inflation, & Obama had the most proactive Fed in history with ZIRP & QE. Things were fine under Trump until Covid. H. W. Bush had a mild recession brought on by 9.75% interest rates, W. had 2008 due to the widespread belief that housing prices wouldn't ever go down.
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82478

                                            #14581
                                            Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                            The problem is that by late 2023 the market hadn't really gone anywhere when adjusted for inflation. It rose in 2021 because of all the stimulus. The economy might tank under Trump, but a lot of that will be because of what he inherited from Biden, like the aftermath of an inverted yield curve, FHA guarantees subprime loans which can turn into 2008 II, etc.



                                            Reagan & Volker crushed inflation and gave us a strong stock market. In 45 years, we've had 3 democrats as president. The NASDAQ & S&P didn't really do anything in Clinton's first 2 years and Biden's first 3 years when you factor in inflation, & Obama had the most proactive Fed in history with ZIRP & QE. Things were fine under Trump until Covid. H. W. Bush had a mild recession brought on by 9.75% interest rates, W. had 2008 due to the widespread belief that housing prices wouldn't ever go down.
                                            REPUBLICANS VS. DEMOCRATS BY THE NUMBERS THE LAST 50 YEARS HELD PRESIDENCY
                                            Republicans 28
                                            Democrats 22

                                            STOCK MARKET RETURN
                                            Republicans 109%
                                            Democrats 992%

                                            INCOME GROWTH
                                            Republicans .6%
                                            Democrats 2.2%

                                            TOTAL JOBS CREATED
                                            Republicans 24 million
                                            Democrats 42 million

                                            GDP
                                            Republicans 2.7%
                                            Democrats 4.1%
                                            Last edited by pavyracer; 03-10-25, 12:47 PM.
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                                            • guitarjosh
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-25-07
                                              • 5738

                                              #14582
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              REPUBLICANS VS. DEMOCRATS BY THE NUMBERS THE LAST 50 YEARSYEARS HELD PRESIDENCY
                                              Republicans 28
                                              Democrats 22

                                              STOCK MARKET RETURN
                                              Republicans 109%
                                              Democrats 992%

                                              INCOME GROWTH
                                              Republicans .6%
                                              Democrats 2.2%

                                              TOTAL JOBS CREATED
                                              Republicans 24 million
                                              Democrats 42 million

                                              GDP
                                              Republicans 2.7%
                                              Democrats 4.1%
                                              Nice, but you really didn’t address my points. Average weekly Fed Funds rate:

                                              Reagan: ~9.5%
                                              H.W. Bush: ~6.8%
                                              Clinton: ~5.2%
                                              W. Bush: ~3.1%
                                              Obama: ~0.5%

                                              Lower rates help strengthen the economy.

                                              Here’s the market returns based on which party has the congress and which has the presidency.

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                                              • k13
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 07-16-10
                                                • 18053

                                                #14583
                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                Stocks generally ultimately go higher, but the market is speaking and the market does not like the uncertainty and neither do businesses. It is possibly that it might take awhile to recover. Trump was handed a great economy on platter and he is doing his darndest to eff it up.
                                                The economy was and is terrible.
                                                The stock market is not the economy.

                                                1% of people can pump a market to infinity.
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                                                • k13
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 07-16-10
                                                  • 18053

                                                  #14584
                                                  Investors love volatility.
                                                  That's how you make money.

                                                  But for the better of the real economy, money needs to be erased. Only way to lower prices.

                                                  Every asset crashing 75% would only take us back to normal.
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82478

                                                    #14585
                                                    Are we great again?
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                                                    • Madison
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-16-11
                                                      • 6362

                                                      #14586
                                                      Please post more! Josh.
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                                                      • Itsamazing777
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-14-12
                                                        • 12602

                                                        #14587
                                                        Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                        Are we great again?
                                                        Yes
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                                                        • homie1975
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-24-13
                                                          • 15442

                                                          #14588
                                                          thank God for the relief rally today but we will need a lot more than this.

                                                          we need a catalyst or two to bring us back
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                                                          • homie1975
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-24-13
                                                            • 15442

                                                            #14589
                                                            don't spam the forum Gents, with new stock threads, just post in here.

                                                            this week i am watching:

                                                            - Fed comments on Wednesday
                                                            - Trump tariffs on auto industry abroad probably Wednesday also

                                                            things are still very fluid.

                                                            right now the soup du jour is Buy the F'ing dips and Sell the F'ing Rips

                                                            too much uncertainty out there at these levels,

                                                            back to back incredible years so the markets are looking for any reason to sell.
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                                                            • homie1975
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-24-13
                                                              • 15442

                                                              #14590
                                                              i am swing trading TQQQ, SPXL, UDOW. these are 3 to 4x leveraged ETF's on the indexes. i buy the dips and i sell the rips. i do this in my Roth IRA. all tax free whenever i decide to withdraw.

                                                              long term i am buying more NVDA and PLTR on dips.
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                                                              • homie1975
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-24-13
                                                                • 15442

                                                                #14591
                                                                a little more relief today, but April 2 is bearing down on us..
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                                                                • Madison
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 09-16-11
                                                                  • 6362

                                                                  #14592
                                                                  If you value your $$ I recommend taking the time to read this article. Link below.

                                                                  Short excerpt : In 2007, 35% of new FHA [Federal Housing Administration] borrowers had debt-to-income ratios above 43%.
                                                                  By 2020, 54% did.
                                                                  As housing prices and inflation surged, borrowers became more stretched.
                                                                  The FHA kept insuring mortgages to borrowers who were increasingly leveraged. About 64% of FHA borrowers last year exceeded the 43% threshold.
                                                                  The FHA loan portfolio is far riskier than it was before the 2008 housing crisis.
                                                                  Under the guise of Covid relief, the Biden administration masked the growing troubles in the housing market by paying off borrowers and mortgage servicers to prevent foreclosures.
                                                                  Of the 52,531 FHA loans last year that went seriously delinquent within their first year, only nine resulted in foreclosure.
                                                                  The FHA instituted a program that pays mortgage servicers to make borrowers’ missed payments for them. Missed payments are added to the loan’s principal, but without interest…
                                                                  One result is that many FHA borrowers owe more than their original mortgage and more than their homes are worth. They are essentially trapped in their homes even if they want to sell and move…
                                                                  Another result is that home prices keep increasing because borrowers who don’t pay their mortgages—and never should have qualified for loans—can’t get foreclosed on or be forced to sell their homes.

                                                                  The Danger that Could Derail Our Economy
                                                                  Last edited by Madison; 03-18-25, 04:23 PM.
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                                                                  • Madison
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-16-11
                                                                    • 6362

                                                                    #14593
                                                                    Josh, check this ^^ out and comment pls.
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                                                                    • Madison
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-16-11
                                                                      • 6362

                                                                      #14594
                                                                      Homie, you're failing your thread. You poked at me because I innocently started another thread and got a little response. Get real and get going here or let the posting market be itself.
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                                                                      • Madison
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 09-16-11
                                                                        • 6362

                                                                        #14595
                                                                        Hello, anyone out there.
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