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  • guitarjosh
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-25-07
    • 5738

    #14596
    Originally posted by Madison
    Josh, check this ^^ out and comment pls.
    I read the original WSJ article and it sounds like a very big potential problem. Basically the Biden Administration underwrote a lot of bad mortgages and if we don't keep putting money into the market to keep those loans afloat, we risk a crash. I don't think the conventional wisdom has people from Pennsylvania Ave to Wall Street to Main Street thinking housing will rise in perpetuity the way they did 20 years ago, so there won't be the widespread issuing of derivative insurance products like last time.
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    • Madison
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-16-11
      • 6362

      #14597
      Originally posted by guitarjosh

      I read the original WSJ article and it sounds like a very big potential problem. Basically the Biden Administration underwrote a lot of bad mortgages and if we don't keep putting money into the market to keep those loans afloat, we risk a crash. I don't think the conventional wisdom has people from Pennsylvania Ave to Wall Street to Main Street thinking housing will rise in perpetuity the way they did 20 years ago, so there won't be the widespread issuing of derivative insurance products like last time.
      Appreciated!!
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      • homie1975
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-24-13
        • 15442

        #14598
        Originally posted by Madison
        Homie, you're failing your thread. You poked at me because I innocently started another thread and got a little response. Get real and get going here or let the posting market be itself.
        MADder cut me some slack.

        I just returned last night rom the Big Island of Hawaii so Aloha and Mahalo.

        i was gone for 9 days.

        in other news, we have given back all of the gains from last week and April 2 is getting here quick.

        other countries are puffing their chests out against the bullying.

        see Canada.
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        • Madison
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-16-11
          • 6362

          #14599
          Originally posted by homie1975

          MADder cut me some slack.

          I just returned last night rom the Big Island of Hawaii so Aloha and Mahalo.

          i was gone for 9 days.

          in other news, we have given back all of the gains from last week and April 2 is getting here quick.

          other countries are puffing their chests out against the bullying.

          see Canada.
          Apologies to you for being human and enjoying life. Why I'm a para-mutual (Poker/Racing). It's been me against the world and don't think the world will ever squeeze that out of me, to my dismay.

          I've been negative (economy/Market) for some time and quite frankly it could be much worse. I keep hearing about all this $ 7B? in CD/MM on the sideline just waiting to buy equities. Fools in my mind as most is Madison like, (Conservation of capital). Show me these stats, grouped by age. Many elderly have spent a lifetime accumulating whatever and SS and interest is their God-Send.
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          • trobin31
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-09-14
            • 9853

            #14600

            secure your bag people
            Last edited by trobin31; 03-30-25, 08:31 AM.
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            • homie1975
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-24-13
              • 15442

              #14601
              Originally posted by trobin31
              secure your bag people
              Robin
              please expound.
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              • Madison
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-16-11
                • 6362

                #14602
                Barf Bag???
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                • homie1975
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-24-13
                  • 15442

                  #14603
                  liberation day on weds 4/2? i am not a believer, sorry. i want to be but i am not.
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                  • eberetta1
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-27-09
                    • 1149

                    #14604
                    My investments are holding up but I don't know for how long.
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                    • homie1975
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-24-13
                      • 15442

                      #14605
                      Originally posted by eberetta1
                      My investments are holding up but I don't know for how long.
                      what are you holding besides Gold ?
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                      • ex50warrior
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-10-09
                        • 3814

                        #14606
                        Speaking of Gold, where is Slurry?? Maybe sailed off into the sunset after watching his stockpile soar in value.
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                        • homie1975
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-24-13
                          • 15442

                          #14607
                          Originally posted by guitarjosh

                          I read the original WSJ article and it sounds like a very big potential problem. Basically the Biden Administration underwrote a lot of bad mortgages and if we don't keep putting money into the market to keep those loans afloat, we risk a crash. I don't think the conventional wisdom has people from Pennsylvania Ave to Wall Street to Main Street thinking housing will rise in perpetuity the way they did 20 years ago, so there won't be the widespread issuing of derivative insurance products like last time.
                          how long are you going to blame Biden?
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                          • Madison
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-16-11
                            • 6362

                            #14608
                            Originally posted by homie1975

                            how long are you going to blame Biden?
                            Blame whoever. At least you're reading the narrative.

                            This is where you (buy and hold) should be helping us with an alternative/hold? opinion. And if so, I warned you of catching the knife weeks ago. I want to hear when it's time to try to catch the knife??



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                            • Madison
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-16-11
                              • 6362

                              #14609
                              Here's a company RKT you should have on your watchlist (Long term) under the premise, sooner or later rates will lower and housing will accelerate.

                              Mr Cooper Stock Surges 26% Pre-Market After Rocket Companies Agrees To Acquire It For $9.4B: Retail’s Not Impressed Yet

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                              • homie1975
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-24-13
                                • 15442

                                #14610
                                Originally posted by Madison

                                Blame whoever. At least you're reading the narrative.

                                This is where you (buy and hold) should be helping us with an alternative/hold? opinion. And if so, I warned you of catching the knife weeks ago. I want to hear when it's time to try to catch the knife??


                                i stopped buy and hold method a long time ago.
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                                • homie1975
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-24-13
                                  • 15442

                                  #14611
                                  Originally posted by Madison

                                  Blame whoever. At least you're reading the narrative.

                                  This is where you (buy and hold) should be helping us with an alternative/hold? opinion. And if so, I warned you of catching the knife weeks ago. I want to hear when it's time to try to catch the knife??


                                  hell if i know.

                                  this is crazy town right now.

                                  i am not even dollar cost averaging, that is how bad it is right now.
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                                  • Madison
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-16-11
                                    • 6362

                                    #14612
                                    Originally posted by homie1975

                                    hell if i know.

                                    this is crazy town right now.

                                    i am not even dollar cost averaging, that is how bad it is right now.
                                    Time we should be talking. I have huge list of oversold to be buying. Just cautious.

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                                    • eberetta1
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-27-09
                                      • 1149

                                      #14613
                                      Originally posted by homie1975

                                      what are you holding besides Gold ?
                                      TRV has been surviving and nice that we finally get paid interest of 4 pct on our cash holdings after receiving 0 pct interest for 4 years+.
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                                      • ex50warrior
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-10-09
                                        • 3814

                                        #14614
                                        They better rustle up some buyers quickly.....otherwise this will get real ugly!
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                                        • JIBBBY
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 83691

                                          #14615
                                          Shaky market with the Tariff drops, wait for more drops then invest is my best guess. Keep it simple...
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                                          • d2bets
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 39990

                                            #14616
                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                            Shaky market with the Tariff drops, wait for more drops then invest is my best guess. Keep it simple...
                                            Shaky? If he stays with these tariffs, we are plunging into a global depression. Only hope is if he quickly decides to reverse course and lie and say that other countries are giving us something. These are all self-inflicted wounds. Each day that this goes on increases the chance that it's irrevocable. The crash could be spectacular. But there might still be a little time to reverse. Trump is an idiot and you know it.
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                                            • Madison
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-16-11
                                              • 6362

                                              #14617
                                              Just used dry power to buy a smidge of my high conviction stocks.

                                              Not sure Im right here but KEY is to watch the babies being thrown of with the bathwater. Lot of good stk's get tossed with the ETF's due to no problem with them.
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                                              • ex50warrior
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-10-09
                                                • 3814

                                                #14618
                                                Agree. It may not work out but I sold put options on some beaten down stocks I'd like to own. Collected some nice premium. And if I end up getting the stocks at the lower strike price I'll be fine with them. I'm prepared to do more of the same if the market moves lower.
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                                                • d2bets
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39990

                                                  #14619
                                                  Originally posted by ex50warrior
                                                  Agree. It may not work out but I sold put options on some beaten down stocks I'd like to own. Collected some nice premium. And if I end up getting the stocks at the lower strike price I'll be fine with them. I'm prepared to do more of the same if the market moves lower.
                                                  No President has ever tanked the market the way Trump is. If Harris, Biden, Obama or anyone had done this, Trump would be calling for impeachment. If he doesn't reverse course, it's going to be a global depression the likes of which nobody has ever seen. 100% self-inflicted Trump-induced. The blue wave in 2026 will be astounding and overwhelming. Republicans deserve it. And anyone of them speaking up now -- too little, too late ya spineless weasles.
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                                                  • homie1975
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-24-13
                                                    • 15442

                                                    #14620
                                                    where the phukk is JOSH right now ?
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                                                    • homie1975
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-24-13
                                                      • 15442

                                                      #14621
                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                      Shaky market with the Tariff drops, wait for more drops then invest is my best guess. Keep it simple...
                                                      shaky? how about PLUMMETTING

                                                      thanks DONNIE !!
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                                                      • trobin31
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 01-09-14
                                                        • 9853

                                                        #14622
                                                        You know I don’t think I heard any of you say thank you once today.
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                                                        • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 04-04-11
                                                          • 36676

                                                          #14623
                                                          Originally posted by ex50warrior
                                                          They better rustle up some buyers quickly.....otherwise this will get real ugly!
                                                          Warrior, is that you in the picture? The Bitcoiners are noting the difference in BTC vs DOW today.
                                                          Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                          • trobin31
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-09-14
                                                            • 9853

                                                            #14624
                                                            If this thing doesn’t rebound next week SPX is heading to mid 4,000 or lower.
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                                                            • pavyracer
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 04-12-07
                                                              • 82478

                                                              #14625
                                                              Originally posted by homie1975
                                                              where the phukk is JOSH right now ?
                                                              He is researching how to blame this mess on Biden. He will find something Biden said 10 years ago to blame the market tanking on his policies. One thing Republicans never admit is that they were wrong like their cult leader who has no idea what he is doing. Who in their right mind would put tariffs on an island inhabited only by penguins? I guess the penguins have been doing us all wrong in trade all these years!
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                                                              • guitarjosh
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-25-07
                                                                • 5738

                                                                #14626
                                                                Originally posted by homie1975

                                                                how long are you going to blame Biden?
                                                                For what, policies that began while he was the president that if not continued could destroy the housing market and hammer banks?

                                                                Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                where the phukk is JOSH right now ?
                                                                My comments? This is what I complained about Trump in his first term. It is very hard to run a business when you have no idea what costs will be next week. It looks like Rand Paul is submitting a bill to strip the president of his tariff power, which is what I hope happens.

                                                                As far as the charts go, we’re completely washed out. None of the stocks on the XLB and XLE are above their 50 day average, and only 10% are above on the Nasdaq. There are a lot of bullish divergences in the market. We could see a waterfall Monday, like we did Black Monday in 1987, where we’d lost roughly 10% in the 2 or 3 days prior. I do have some puts just in case, but we might have Trump announce all the tariffs are off since everyone wants to make a deal with him. I’m totally against taxes on business since they’re commonly passed on to the consumer.


                                                                Originally posted by pavyracer

                                                                He is researching how to blame this mess on Biden. He will find something Biden said 10 years ago to blame the market tanking on his policies. One thing Republicans never admit is that they were wrong like their cult leader who has no idea what he is doing. Who in their right mind would put tariffs on an island inhabited only by penguins? I guess the penguins have been doing us all wrong in trade all these years!
                                                                One of the things that are different about the 2 of us is that my loyalty is to my country and ideology that makes any country better, while you’re loyal to your party above all. I’ve never supported any type of business tax, while your party is against them while also wanting to raise them. I love the way traitors like you claim the economy of 2019 had nothing to do with Trump’s policies and were due to Obama, the economy of early 2021 had nothing to do with Trump but Biden, the economy of 2020 had nothing to do with Covid but everything to do with Trump’s economic policies, and the economy of today has nothing to do with Biden. Biden’s economy was not good in 2024, which is why the democrats got pushed out of power in 2024.
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                                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                                  • 36676

                                                                  #14627
                                                                  Josh, will be interesting to see if Monday is bad (as you infer). What is going on here? Are people losing faith in the USD as a currency?

                                                                  See the Friday divergence in the Bitcoin stocks versus most other Stocks. Pretty eye-opening.
                                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 04-04-11
                                                                    • 36676

                                                                    #14628
                                                                    Also, Josh. Love your avatar.

                                                                    "So, are you Chinese? Or Japanese?"

                                                                    "Neither. I'm Laosian."

                                                                    "Which ocean?"

                                                                    "I'm from Laos. A land-locked country in Asia."

                                                                    "So. Are you Chinese? Or Japanese?"
                                                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                    • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 04-04-11
                                                                      • 36676

                                                                      #14629
                                                                      Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                      Also, Josh. Love your avatar.

                                                                      "So, are you Chinese? Or Japanese?"

                                                                      "Neither. I'm Laosian."

                                                                      "Which ocean?"

                                                                      "I'm from Laos. A land-locked country in Asia."

                                                                      "So. Are you Chinese? Or Japanese?"
                                                                      Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                                      • ex50warrior
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-10-09
                                                                        • 3814

                                                                        #14630
                                                                        Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

                                                                        Warrior, is that you in the picture? The Bitcoiners are noting the difference in BTC vs DOW today.
                                                                        Lol...nope, that's Vili the Warrior. June Jones brought him in as the U of Hawaii's mascot in 2000. I lived in Hawaii for many years and was a fan of Vili.

                                                                        Still holding some bitcoin, just wish it was a larger position.
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