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I love sports history, good video!!
My take aways,
1) One could argue that Pete was getting in a football stance in the 1970 collision with Fosse to run him over. But I'm sure it was for a slide.
2) Getting to play Pro ball just a few miles from where you grew up would have been great, and For your favorite team.
3) The fact his Dad didn't take them on vacation, so he never missed a little league game. Great stuff
4) 10 seasons Rose had 200+ hits
5) 230 most Rose hits one season
6) 248 ty cobb best one season hits
7) 257 Gorgeous George Sisler most at the time of recording for a season. Has this been broken was set in 1920 I think is what they said?Comment -
1984 Tigers opened up the season 35-5.
They had the AL pennant pretty much wrapped up my Memorial Day.
And we were rocking to this tune as well.
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There were lots of great Punk songs that never got any radio play or airtime on MTV that came out in the 80's as well. Here's a gem from 1983.
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NY Dolls, late 70's into the 80's too.Comment -
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Punk Rock was BIG in the 80's! Suicidal Tendencies I use to pit dance to. Brutal. Come home with bruises. Loved Suicidal Tendencies.
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One of the Most under rated Rock bands of the late 80's
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Nashy, I met Howard Johnson at a card show. Super-cool guy. Guy of modest stature, which was the standard for MLB players back then.
I was talking to him about At-bats from 1986. He must have thought I was crazy. And maybe I am.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
We're all a tad crazy.
1984 Tigers had one of the best up the middle defenses of all time.
Ask Dan Petry and Milt Wilcox how many runs Parish, Whitaker, Trammell, and Chet Lemon saved them.
Three of the four of them won gold for defense, and Lemon got ripped off, he should have won an outfield gold glove in '84 too.Comment -
Jack, good stuff. You know I eat this stuff up.
I found the Hits link:
...Ichiro broke it in 2004 (262 hits). Article points out that Ichiro has 251 hits in the first 154 games, if you wanted to line up to Sisler's 257 hits in 154 games.
Baseball is a great game for statistics. But you have to line up to the era.
I believe Pete when he says that Fosse wasn't giving him a path to the plate. Pete broke stride when he saw that a slide wasn't going to work.
There are so many sides to Pete. His HS coach is in that video. He describes Pete as "self-made" which is the best way one could describe him.
Pete has great knowledge of baseball history. I don't think he'd call himself the best player ever. He really never had a standard position and even called himself a "Utility Man."
The moniker of "Hit King" is appropriate. He hustled his way to those stats. Here's one for you:
*Most 5-hit games: Rose (10)
*Most 4-hit games: Rose (73)
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^Big fan of the Police and Sting back in the day. Loved the music!
Canary in a coal mine... Had all the Police albums.
Howard Jones was underrated on a side note back in the day.Comment -
Can't forget the Flock of Seagulls band back in the 80's. Dude looked like a freak but pumped out some catchy tunes.
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Jack and others:
*Found a very interesting clip on the 1986 World Series.
First off, Dwight Evans should be in the Hall of Fame. He was really good enough to be in via three categories: 1) Offensive Production, 2) Plate Discipline and 3) Defense.
It's stupid to me that he's not in. By being patient at the plate, some of his Home Run stats weren't as gaudy as Jim Rice's.
Second, I've listened to a lot of Dwight Evans tape. Guy is so grounded. Have to admire this guy.
I would have thought nothing more could be said about 1986. But Dwight brings up some good points. For example, why was Schiraldi still in the game to start the inning?
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Roberto Clemente was before my time, old timers tell me he was the greatest defensive right fielder of all time, and I've read and seen enough footage to agree with that.
The greatest defensive right fielders of *my time* were Dale Murphy and Dwight Evans.
Murphy won gold in left, right, and center five years running, with four silver slugger awards to go with that.
I've seen a ton of those Jim Rice, Dwight Evans, Freddy Lynn teams in person sitting behind Rich Gedman back when those seats seats were 12 bucks, today, more like 1200 bucks.
Let me tell you something, anything in the air hit his way was automatic, and he made the shoestring circus catches look routine.
Casual fans forget the cannon he had for an arm.
I remember like yesterday Dewey making a throw from the warning track by the Pesky Foul Pole in right, and like a frozen rope throw out a would be run at the plate like a laser.
Most incredible throw from almost 400 feet I've ever seen, my jaw dropped to my knees.
Shame the way his career ended.
He was spent after the '90 season, his family told him to call it a career, his teammates too, everybody did.
Dewey didn't think so, in '91 signed with Baltimore, that wasn't a disaster, but it was a subpar year.
He retired n '91, and seeing BALT for one season next to his name after almost 20 years of BOS, sticks out like a big zit.
Love him or hate him, Sammy Sosa, especially in his early days with the White Sox was an incredible defensive outfielder too, too bad his legacy will be that of an asshole.
Why isn't Dwight Evans in the HoF?
I can make a case for him, but the counting numbers (HR's. RBI's etc..) aren't that impressive, good, not great, and the batting average, .272, doesn't do it either for the voters either.
His National League equal was Dale Murphy.
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Great 80's thread. I'd have to say I miss 1990 91 and 92. Turning point... Pearl Jam... Stone Temple Pilots.... Smashing Pumpkins. Amazing music.Comment -
Post #295 nice find Chucky Hearing Dwight's take on 86 game 6.
Steve I went to an auction in 1999 that our local Loins club had annually, bought a folder full of Clemente memorabilia. my nephew was 12 and had started collecting baseball cards etc. and bought it for him, a few years later, he lost interest and sold all he had. He gave the folder back to me. I've moved twice since then and I cannot find it. Its in storage somewhere but I have a lot of collectables stored. It was all in mint condition. I don't even remember what all is in it, just remember paying $120.00 and there were several bidding on it.
I live about 2 hours drive from Atlanta, In the mid to late 80's when we would go to Braves games, we would move around Fulton Co. Stadium and sit in as many sections as we could during the games, of course this was before they started winning and it was almost empty especially on weeknights. Got to see Dale Murphy play.
In the mid to late 90's my oldest sister worked for a company that did a lot of Business in Atlanta, (She worked the entire SE region training managers) and they had season tickets in the 2nd section right behind the Braves dugout. At Turner field.
Upper management always went to weekend games, but when she was in town, we got to use them thru the week. Great seats (4)!Comment -
Bruce was pretty damn big in the 80's!
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Thanks, Nash/Jack. A few things:
1) Yaz used to talk about Dwight Evans. Dwight took a SERIOUS head-shot on a pitch in 1973. I mean serious enough to be career-threatening to the young player. Yaz claimed that it prevented Dwight from digging in at the plate (for a long time). Dwight is one of the few players who have better stats in his 30s (than 20s).
Check out his tally in the 1980s. Most Home Runs in the AL. Most Xtra-base hits.
Rice's raw #s jump out more b/c he was a free-swinger. Dwight was patient, he'd walk (close to) 100 times per year.
2) I was at a card show a few weeks back. The autograph-signer was Dennis "Oil Can" Boyd. I asked him a question with one particular name in mind: "Who was the best defensive player that played behind you?"
"Oil Can" thought about it for a few seconds. Then he conceded "I'd have to say Dwight Evans." That's who I expected to him to say. Just nice to hear the confirmation.
3) Dwight had a great throwing arm for sure. On one of the interviews, Dwight said that his best ally became the 3rd-base coach. After getting thrown out a few times, the 3rd-base coach would stop sending the runners.Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?Comment -
I was 6 years old when this was going on... and as much as I would of loved to open up a newspaper and check the sports section to see this unfold... I was way too young lol I do remember my grandmother taking us (other grandchildren) down to Tiger Stadium one night.... I don't really remember what month?? It was warm... Summer Time... and they were sold out. Unreal. lol 50,000+ in Detroit for a regular season game. Unreal.Comment -
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I was talking about right fielders yesterday, Chet Lemon was the best defensive center fielder of the eighties in my opinion.
Dwayne (not Dale) Murphy was the 1984 Gold Glover in center, which IMO is a travesty, Lemon was light years better as a defensive center fielder.
Ricky Henderson, a left fielder, gets overlooked as a great defensive outfielder too, that's because of his prolific base running accomplishments, he was as good a defender as he was a speed merchant.Comment -
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2014 and 2015 KC RoyalsI remember good ole Chet Lemon. I never really knew much about his defensive skills growing up. I'll take your word for it. It's funny how a team just comes together... out of nowhere and builds a championship together. Sparky knew how to push all the right buttons.
Been watching baseball since Momma Nasher was feeding me Gerbers from a spoon when I was two years old.
2015 Royals were my favorite all time team and 2015 was my favorite MLB baseball season.Comment -
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Loved the mod era back in the 80's and in my teens which was short lived. Even got a flat top hair cut back then.
MADNESS ONE STEP BEYOND!
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Top 5 Hottest Video Vixens of the 80s
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Mötley Crüe - Girls Girls Girls
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every NBA team in the 80s seemingly had a star player and many had 2
i am talking teams that never made the finals.
that is how strong the league was top to bottom back then.Comment -
I went to a couple of those games in KC. Fuk I am old.Comment -
You had one of these in the early 80's you were a pimp and loaded..
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Don't forget the walkman. You were the cool kid if you had one of these back in the day with a mix tape!
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