Le’Veon Bell where are you?

[thechaoz]

and this is the real reason people are pissed. They don't give 2 shits about Bell nor his family as they only care about how many points he can't give them this weekend. Now, they spin it that he's screwing people over by making his own decisions about his own life?

The USA has too many fukked up people.

I'm fuckin dying that's so hilarious..

Just glad I picked 4th or later

[Mac4Lyfe]

As a Steelers fan
F this guy

Typical response...

A buddy of mine played almost 10 years with Seattle. He is one of the best players in Seattle history. When they traded him, they didn't even have the decency to call and tell him. He found out by his momma watching the news. Twitter, FB and social media wasn't as big as it is today BUT NOT ONE fan sent him a letter or an email or a thank you note for the years he bled, sweat and cried for that team. NOT ONE! Since, you're a Steeler fan, you should know who he is but I'm willing to bet you didn't give a Fuk about him either.

So called fans are the worst. Once you are used up, they don't give a shit.

[bhoor]

That's as ridiculous as if LaAdrian Waddle would say that he's part of the reason Tom Brady is so successful. So do they think they should get some of his money? Most CEO's make much more money than the people that are doing all the blocking and tackling. The NFL is a business. They need to mind their own money and stay out of Bell's. Their contracts are TOTALLY different than his contract. They sign and trade their time for dollars just like everyone else. If they don't like it, they need to do what they need to do. Any of them could be out of the league this weekend with a career ending injury or traded like sheep to the highest bidder. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes on that team.

You, me and Bell are different people. But, you really don't know what you would do, if you were in the same position as he is. You say you wouldn't sacrifice an entire season BUT you're willing to sacrifice the rest of your career??? You're being very short sighted. You think Bell is worth what he's being paid. Bell thinks he's worth more. God bless him. If he won't believe in himself, no one else will. Most people go through life settling for what other people think of them and never achieve the success that is waiting for them out of fear and lack of faith.

Jimbo Fisher thought he was worth more than FSU, so he moved on. It's a free country. Thank God. Some people are willing to take risk on themselves. It could fail but it could succeed. It's Bell's life and I respect his decision with his life, even if I thought it was a bad one. I think it's a great move that hopefully can force the hand of not only the Steelers but start changing the way NFL contracts are handled. My wife's cousin is on a fukked up contract right now. He has to bite his tongue, stay straight and pray he doesn't get hurt for the next 2 years before he can make decent NFL money. He could only wish he had Bell's leverage.

And Isiah Thomas is lesson learned for many Pro players.

[Kermit]

So called fans are the worst. Once you are used up, they don't give a shit.

I disagree. If you reach legendary status, the fans will remember you long after you have retired. Look at all of the old jerseys that you see in the stands at games. Hell, my buddy just got a puppy last year and named it Bettis.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I didn't see them say anything about wanting any of Bell's money, just saying that they helped contribute to his success.

That is bullshit. Fukkers are jealous as fuk. This is professional sports. Where have you ever heard another athlete say that they "helped contribute to another athlete's success"? As if they deserve his money? I use to spot weights for a guy that played/won a Superbowl. Did I somehow contribute to the Superbowl? WTF? Bell worked his ass off and put himself in this position to earn his pay. Not them. Pouncey can kiss my ass. He's just salty and should just STFU. It's not his place to get in another mans pockets. Bell is a grown ass man. Ain't no such thing as loyalty in this league. You are a fool if you believe otherwise.

[Kermit]

That is bullshit. Fukkers are jealous as fuk. This is professional sports. Where have you ever heard another athlete say that they "helped contribute to another athlete's success"? As if they deserve his money? I use to spot weights for a guy that played/won a Superbowl. Did I somehow contribute to the Superbowl? WTF? Bell worked his ass off and put himself in this position to earn his pay. Not them. Pouncey can kiss my ass. He's just salty and should just STFU. It's not his place to get in another mans pockets. Bell is a grown ass man. Ain't no such thing as loyalty in this league. You are a fool if you believe otherwise.

Joe Flacco got a big contract because of his receivers in the superbowl. Once they were gone, he hasn't done shit.

Boldin should have got some of Joe's money.

[Mac4Lyfe]

I disagree. If you reach legendary status, the fans will remember you long after you have retired. Look at all of the old jerseys that you see in the stands at games. Hell, my buddy just got a puppy last year and named it Bettis.

I'm sure Jerome is tickled pink that your friend named his dog Bettis. Jerome has really come a long way. That's certainly legendary status for sure.

The reality is that if Bettis got into financial trouble tomorrow, fans wouldn't give him shit. It would take pages and pages of threads to list all the athletes that went broke because they outlived their money. Fans are not knocking down their doors with loans and handouts to help these legendary stars. If you really want to be depressed, go look up where many of these athletes are now. Many are in very sad shape, physically, mentally, emotionally and financially. The fans really don't want to know. Been there, done that.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Joe Flacco got a big contract because of his receivers in the superbowl. Once they were gone, he hasn't done shit.
Boldin should have got some of Joe's money.

Flacco's money is Flacco's money. Boldin had zero claims to Flacco's money, just like Pouncey has zero rights to Bell's money. It's not Flacco's fault if Boldin didn't get paid what he "felt" he should have gotten paid. The NFL is a business. You negotiate a contract and you sign said contract. Successful people have always made their success off the backs of other people. Funny you mention the Ravens because the owner made all his money off the efforts of other people. The money he makes off the Ravens are from guys like Flacco. Should he make more money than Flacco, without putting his health on the line? People love to complain about professional athlete salaries but no one complains about how much money these owners make at their expense???

[Kermit]

Flacco's money is Flacco's money. Boldin had zero claims to Flacco's money, just like Pouncey has zero rights to Bell's money. It's not Flacco's fault if Boldin didn't get paid what he "felt" he should have gotten paid. The NFL is a business. You negotiate a contract and you sign said contract. Successful people have always made their success off the backs of other people. Funny you mention the Ravens because the owner made all his money off the efforts of other people. The money he makes off the Ravens are from guys like Flacco. Should he make more money than Flacco, without putting his health on the line? People love to complain about professional athlete salaries but no one complains about how much money these owners make at their expense???

Boldin made Flacco famous.

[Kermit]

I'm sure Jerome is tickled pink that your friend named his dog Bettis. Jerome has really come a long way. That's certainly legendary status for sure.

The reality is that if Bettis got into financial trouble tomorrow, fans wouldn't give him shit. It would take pages and pages of threads to list all the athletes that went broke because they outlived their money. Fans are not knocking down their doors with loans and handouts to help these legendary stars. If you really want to be depressed, go look up where many of these athletes are now. Many are in very sad shape, physically, mentally, emotionally and financially. The fans really don't want to know. Been there, done that.

As usual(and expected) the point has completely flown over your head.

As far as Bell goes, if you think a 27 year old at the top of his game sitting out almost an entire season is going to be beneficial to his life, then more power to you.

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Bell has to be a clown. Team-mates NEVER take shots at a guy when he's holding out. His Offensive Linemen are having open-season on this guy.

If u don't like being Franchised, tell your reps to not agree to that rule. No sympathy when guys get franchised, u still make plenty.

[kidcudi92]

lol wtf i entered this thread to read news on bell and its all about random ass retired clowns etc

kawhi syndrome

new thread please

[MMXVII]

The reality is that if Bettis got into financial trouble tomorrow, fans wouldn't give him shit. It would take pages and pages of threads to list all the athletes that went broke because they outlived their money. Fans are not knocking down their doors with loans and handouts to help these legendary stars. If you really want to be depressed, go look up where many of these athletes are now. Many are in very sad shape, physically, mentally, emotionally and financially. The fans really don't want to know. Been there, done that.

Its almost as if people are fans of the teams, not the players. Go figure.

[kidcudi92]

Its almost as if people are fans of the teams, not the players. Go figure.

Yeah imagine that lol

Good call MMX 👌

[darrell74]

Picked up Conner off waiver wire Monday. Hope Bell holds his ass out all season.

I drafted him in the 10th round because of this.
You should have known this if you are a Leveon Bell fantasy owner.

Also, Connor isn't that bad, you didn't need to go to your bye week replacementback.
Your handcuff back is perfect for this. Besides, it's phuckin Cleveland. They're gonna put in an extra body on Antonio Brown.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Its almost as if people are fans of the teams, not the players. Go figure.

The NFL has always tried to make it about the team and not the players. It's hard enough for players because their faces are hid behind a mask. Other sports have stars that can transcend their teams like Lebron or Ronaldo or Messi. The NFL has the worst contracts, the shittiest working conditions and even worst retirement plan. The NFLPA is the weakest/worst union in sports and business. They have continued to bend over backwards for the owners and totally screw the player. The very idea of a franchise tag should be illegal but the union agreed to one of the worst rules in all of sports. The player cannot negotiate their contract, nor can they effectively get traded because the price is too high. So the only option is to play (in one of the most violent sports on the planet) and risk your career OR sit out and not get paid.

[maggiethebestdog]

The NFL has always tried to make it about the team and not the players. It's hard enough for players because their faces are hid behind a mask. Other sports have stars that can transcend their teams like Lebron or Ronaldo or Messi. The NFL has the worst contracts, the shittiest working conditions and even worst retirement plan. The NFLPA is the weakest/worst union in sports and business. They have continued to bend over backwards for the owners and totally screw the player. The very idea of a franchise tag should be illegal but the union agreed to one of the worst rules in all of sports. The player cannot negotiate their contract, nor can they effectively get traded because the price is too high. So the only option is to play (in one of the most violent sports on the planet) and risk your career OR sit out and not get paid.

Obviously the NFL and the owners treat the players unfairly and don't pay them enough money

The players should exercise their free will and use their many talents to earn a living in another occupation

Maybe they could go to work for a Nike "contractor" overseas

I heard from a reliable source that those are cushy jobs

[Ratpack]

dude got like 3 or 4 baby mommas once they find out he missing 850k a game they will take him to court he will be back this week believe that

[shadymcgrady]

It's the player's own fault, their labor union made this happen. Never see NBA or MLB players holding out every single yr. Players have no one to blame but themselves

[Mac4Lyfe]

I drafted him in the 10th round because of this.
You should have known this if you are a Leveon Bell fantasy owner.

Also, Connor isn't that bad, you didn't need to go to your bye week replacementback.
Your handcuff back is perfect for this. Besides, it's phuckin Cleveland. They're gonna put in an extra body on Antonio Brown.

Cleveland had the 7th best rush defense in the league last year. It was hard as hell to run on their front 7. Their defense looks even better this year. Have you seen those monsters on their defensive line? I don't think too many backs are going to have big games against this Browns team.

Rushing Yards Leaders

RK	TEAM	ATT	YDS	YDS/A	LONG	TD	YDS/G	FUM	FUML
1	Philadelphia	337	1267	3.8	53	7	79.2	3	2
2	Minnesota	364	1337	3.7	62	10	83.6	4	2
3	Carolina	353	1409	4.0	72	7	88.1	1	1
4	Tennessee	398	1420	3.6	34	5	88.8	9	4
5	Denver	428	1430	3.3	47	9	89.4	4	2
6	Arizona	406	1434	3.5	37	12	89.6	7	1
7	Cleveland	467	1566	3.4	39	14	97.9	5	1

[Mac4Lyfe]

dude got like 3 or 4 baby mommas once they find out he missing 850k a game they will take him to court he will be back this week believe that

You obviously don't know the legal system.
They would be stupid as hell to take him back to court (if they already have an order in place as I have no clue if he's paying child support for any children). $0 salary = $0 child support. They have to sit patiently, just like everyone else.

It's the player's own fault, their labor union made this happen. Never see NBA or MLB players holding out every single yr. Players have no one to blame but themselves

Very true BUT I think the owners have systematically created confusion, disunity and fear to dupe the NFLPA. They most likely have colluded with the NFLPA leaders with kick backs and bribes to keep the scales in their favor. Worst union in the entire fee world. Who would ever agree to rookie contracts that lock you into your early years then you get locked down with franchise tags, where you have to prove yourself every year in your prime years, so that they can kick you to the curb once they've run you into the dirt, where you have nothing left in the tank. The ONLY recourse a franchised player has is to hold out.

Obviously the NFL and the owners treat the players unfairly and don't pay them enough money
The players should exercise their free will and use their many talents to earn a living in another occupation
Maybe they could go to work for a Nike "contractor" overseas
I heard from a reliable source that those are cushy jobs

You're the brokest mutherfukker in these forums, yet you side with the owners? How fukking dumb are you? You use to be a ghost account, now you're just a sad sack. Do you need a pay day loan to go pro???

[maggiethebestdog]

You obviously don't know the legal system.
They would be stupid as hell to take him back to court (if they already have an order in place as I have no clue if he's paying child support for any children). $0 salary = $0 child support. They have to sit patiently, just like everyone else.

Very true BUT I think the owners have systematically created confusion, disunity and fear to dupe the NFLPA. They most likely have colluded with the NFLPA leaders with kick backs and bribes to keep the scales in their favor. Worst union in the entire fee world. Who would ever agree to rookie contracts that lock you into your early years then you get locked down with franchise tags, where you have to prove yourself every year in your prime years, so that they can kick you to the curb once they've run you into the dirt, where you have nothing left in the tank. The ONLY recourse a franchised player has is to hold out.

You're the brokest mutherfukker in these forums, yet you side with the owners? How fukking dumb are you? You use to be a ghost account, now you're just a sad sack. Do you need a pay day loan to go pro???

I am in a similar situation to those poor NFL players
I made millions of dollars a year when I was young but nobody held my hand and told me not to blow it all so now I have no money and can't go pro

If I set up a gofundme page can I count on you to donate??
C'mon man, I only made 14 million last year

[Mac4Lyfe]

I am in a similar situation to those poor NFL players
I made millions of dollars a year when I was young but nobody held my hand and told me not to blow it all so now I have no money and can't go pro
If I set up a gofundme page can I count on you to donate??
C'mon man, I only made 14 million last year

Your mind, your lack of discipline and your negative beliefs are too weak to ever make $14 million dollars.

Sure, set up a gofundme account. Knock yourself out. I promise I will donate to it. Something tells me that you are not motivated enough to go after money even though you have no problem criticizing those that do.

[ikid2groove415]

Fck outta here - 14 million a year and don’t wanna show up ? Trade this bitch- Pittsburgh won before this guy and will win after - Trade him 2 a team with no passing game ? See how well this bitch do !!! Ungrateful fck !!!

[shadymcgrady]

Nfl players union seems like they are incompetent at the very least but it's obvious that the entire player's union staff are in on the take with the owners.

There is no other logical explanation, the highest grossing sport in the country by far in terms of popularity and the best deals they can get are these?

Nfl players risk the most and get paid the least compared to their counterparts in their field. There is no doubt the player's union reps are nothing but a bunch of Uncle Tom's getting their palms greased while the owners' get everything

[ikid2groove415]

There’s a reason Pittsburgh and New England is consistently good - They don’t fck up there Cap space for no one !!!! Especially a RB position

[maggiethebestdog]

Nfl players union seems like they are incompetent at the very least but it's obvious that the entire player's union staff are in on the take with the owners.

There is no other logical explanation, the highest grossing sport in the country by far in terms of popularity and the best deals they can get are these?

Nfl players risk the most and get paid the least compared to their counterparts in their field. There is no doubt the player's union reps are nothing but a bunch of Uncle Tom's getting their palms greased while the owners' get everything

If the employment situation is so bad in the NFL then players should quit and go find another job that treats them more fairly
I am sure they would all do quite well for themselves considering all the marketable job skills they all posess

The nerve of these owners mistreating them this way

[shadymcgrady]

If the employment situation is so bad in the NFL then players should quit and go find another job that treats them more fairly
I am sure they would all do quite well for themselves considering all the marketable job skills they all posess

The nerve of these owners mistreating them this way

Fair enough but my point of comparison is the field of major pro sports. NBA, MLB and even the bigger UEFA soccer clubs all have it much better than the nfl players.

No one is disagreeing with the well rounded skill sets pro athletes have outside of their profession

[Mac4Lyfe]

There’s a reason Pittsburgh and New England is consistently good - They don’t fck up there Cap space for no one !!!! Especially a RB position

I'm not following you here? Pittsburgh and NE are in the top third of cap space teams. Most of the worst teams (Browns, Jets, etc.) have the most cap space.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Fair enough but my point of comparison is the field of major pro sports. NBA, MLB and even the bigger UEFA soccer clubs all have it much better than the nfl players.
No one is disagreeing with the well rounded skill sets pro athletes have outside of their profession

Maggie is just jealous that she's never dedicated herself to anything of substance, where she became a valuable commodity. $14 million is so far outside her comprehension that for someone to turn that down, is beyond her mental makeup. I'm pretty sure Maggie has never negotiated a salary, let alone been offered one. She's kind of a "take what they give you" type of person. Her resentment of these "overpaid" (in her mind) players are so bad that she can only resort to siding with the owners, who ironically are printing money at Maggies expense.

[ikid2groove415]

I'm not following you here? Pittsburgh and NE are in the top third of cap space teams. Most of the worst teams (Browns, Jets, etc.) have the most cap space.

What’s not to understand Mac? Just because a team have cap space means there managing the cap well? How often is the Browns /jets good compare/ Pittsburgh/new England?
( I understand the Browns would Probly give bell all his millions - there’s a reason they been dog shit for years also -

[shadymcgrady]

Can't wait to see the browns going forward, they have so much talent throughout the roster for once.

Everyone is talking about Baker, Myles Garrett and flash or drug Gordon but the kid Nick Chubb is the one that's going to be special. He's every bit as good as as saquon Barkley and it will show in the coming years.

I just think they will stumble early on for whatever reason and hue gets fired. Whether by design or undermining. Worst thing that can happen is the browns go 8-8 and hue stays

[maggiethebestdog]

Maggie is just jealous that she's never dedicated herself to anything of substance, where she became a valuable commodity. $14 million is so far outside her comprehension that for someone to turn that down, is beyond her mental makeup. I'm pretty sure Maggie has never negotiated a salary, let alone been offered one. She's kind of a "take what they give you" type of person. Her resentment of these "overpaid" (in her mind) players are so bad that she can only resort to siding with the owners, who ironically are printing money at Maggies expense.

The owners are greedy caack suckers
There comes a point when everybody in society complains about how much money they make
A certain amount of complaining is ok but at a certain point we all look at those workers and all say the same thing
If it is so bad then find something else to do
Compared to most people in society the NFL players are treated extraordinarily well and compensated more than fair
The fact that some other sports might have it a little better is just the way it goes
Suck it up or leave
Nobody is forcing you to play under such horrible conditions

[ikid2groove415]

RB is the most replaceable part in the NFL- bell would have success on every team? Pittsburgh have one of the best passing attack in the NFL along with a good O-line - trade this bitch - someone might even be dumb enough 2 give Pittsburgh back a Load for a RB? That some teams don’t even value (New England)

[Mac4Lyfe]

Can't wait to see the browns going forward, they have so much talent throughout the roster for once.

Everyone is talking about Baker, Myles Garrett and flash or drug Gordon but the kid Nick Chubb is the one that's going to be special. He's every bit as good as as saquon Barkley and it will show in the coming years.

I just think they will stumble early on for whatever reason and hue gets fired. Whether by design or undermining. Worst thing that can happen is the browns go 8-8 and hue stays

I don't know about Chubb. He's looked very tentative and slow thus far. He doesn't seem as special as Barkley from the little I've seen thus far. I hope I'm wrong but he looks a bit soft.

I don't know what to think about Hue. I like him but I'm not sure he's a good coach. He lost several games last year with poor clock management, stupid challenges, no challenges and bad decisions. He screwed up in 2 of the preseason games as well. Very frustrating to see him do stupid things on the sidelines.

8-8 would be great. I'm thinking they could go 9-7 but because of Hue 6-10 is probably most likely.