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  • September2029
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    • 10-26-18
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    #71
    Originally posted by danshan11
    tout is a bad person, they have bad breath, where gold chains in an open shirt, big sunglasses and have never fallen lower than 62% ATS. They usually have 5 or 6 instagram models and only fly private.
    I'm not a bad person.
    Would been nice to have those 5-6 models and fly private but I'll never....even if I have 20 million $
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    • September2029
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      #72
      Originally posted by danshan11
      TBH, time does not tell you anything unless you can get up to 5 to 10K bets in.

      why do you have an edge? you still wont answer that question, you are mayweathering that question
      Then it's good that I won't start with a serious bankroll, I can take a look when I go at 5k+ bets.

      Don't know what to say about Edge..I don't really understand it, if do I have an edge or not and how.
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      • September2029
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        #73
        Originally posted by jjgold
        tout alert!!

        MODS!!
        Man you have almost 300000 posts..if you say for me as Top Definition on this https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tout for me, I want to know why. I'm not a tout.
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        • September2029
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          #74
          I want to know why you think so also snapperman2.
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          • danshan11
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            #75
            Originally posted by September2029
            Then it's good that I won't start with a serious bankroll, I can take a look when I go at 5k+ bets.

            Don't know what to say about Edge..I don't really understand it, if do I have an edge or not and how.
            would you bet me on a dice game if you did not know how many sides were on the dice? You cant even talk about betting seriously if you dont know your edge.
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            • danshan11
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              • 07-08-17
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              #76
              this is a tout, they are mainly big talkers, with no skill, just good marketers and they lose just like everyone else!



              THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF THIS JERKOFF, just seems like this guy literally is a full on TOUT or naive about betting as me!
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              • September2029
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                • 10-26-18
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                #77
                Originally posted by danshan11
                would you bet me on a dice game if you did not know how many sides were on the dice? You cant even talk about betting seriously if you dont know your edge.
                Okay I might be wrong and won't win long term. Whatever.. I'll bump this thread on 1 September 2029.
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                • danshan11
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                  • 07-08-17
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                  #78
                  you can still argue the edge conversation, why do you think you will win?
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                  • September2029
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by danshan11
                    this is a tout, they are mainly big talkers, with no skill, just good marketers and they lose just like everyone else!



                    THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF THIS JERKOFF, just seems like this guy literally is a full on TOUT or naive about betting as me!
                    Oh okay if that's what they mean about mean, I'm not mad now 😂 .
                    I don't want be like everyone else, I want to win, long-term.
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                    • September2029
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by danshan11
                      you can still argue the edge conversation, why do you think you will win?
                      Because I think I can win 50% of my bets, long-term @2.1 odds. I think i can have patience, have discipline and not bet more than 1u. Is this not enough :/
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                      • danshan11
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                        • 07-08-17
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                        #81
                        why do you think the line is +110 ? if someone could win the games at 50% the line would be at least -105 or higher on live bets
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                        • September2029
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                          #82
                          The line could be -110 or +150, it's depends and it change sec after sec since it is live bet for example, minute 24 over 0.5 goals 1st half is @+110 but min 27 its @+135 and different odds accros sportsbooks, same time at bet365 is +110 but same time at sbobet is +120, obiovusly I bet on sbobet that one. I just took the average as +110.
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                          • danshan11
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                            • 07-08-17
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                            #83
                            if you chase, that can be profitable
                            if you bet at +110 and it is really worth -110 you are a long term winner.
                            just need to repeat a zillion consistent times
                            and get the books to give you money everyday with no issues
                            and to at some point get your limits up

                            chasing is not capping it is finding value in stale lines or in bad lines, many people do it and I think some still do it for a living.
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                            • September2029
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                              • 10-26-18
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                              #84
                              Red Star Belgrade vs Liverpool min:19 3-0 corners , over 5.5 corners 1st half @2.1
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                              • danshan11
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                                • 07-08-17
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                                #85
                                got it at 2.1 at what book?
                                what price does pinny have at the same time you bet wherever you bet?
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                                • September2029
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                                  #86
                                  I think that one is a good bet. Its worth -120 IMO, 5 corners so far, one more, oh..its a goal now
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                                  • September2029
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                                    #87
                                    I'm currently on my smartphone, I didn't bet, just took a look at bet365.
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                                    • September2029
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                                      #88
                                      6 corners. Would have been a good win bet.
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                                      • danshan11
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                                        • 07-08-17
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                                        #89
                                        wins losses dont mean anything, that is how they get you.
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                                        • danshan11
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                                          #90
                                          have fun betting dude, you can have fun without being a pro or making it a living, betting is fun, recreational for most! enjoy!
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                                          • September2029
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                                            #91
                                            I was about to write over 1.5 goals 1st half but they scored second goal lol! That's what happens when you don't take Shaqiri with you Klopp. Odds were 2.1 at bet365 and 2.14 at Sbobet
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                                            • danshan11
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                                              • 07-08-17
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                                              #92
                                              2.1 to 2.14 is not an edge, live betting has very high margins probably close to a quarter gap I assume and probably even higher on props
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                                              • Al Masters
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                                                • 04-29-06
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                                                #93
                                                There is no such thing as winning long term.
                                                doesnt exist.

                                                You win short term and you lose short term.
                                                You can also lose long term as most do.

                                                However if you can be one of the very few
                                                who can make money from betting sports on
                                                a regular basis over an extended period of time
                                                you are no longer winning... you are now earning
                                                and there is a gigantic difference between winning
                                                and earning.
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                                                • September2029
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                                                  #94
                                                  Thank you danshan111! I really enjoy betting and want to make a living with it. Dream is to build a good bankroll, a liferoll travel around the world full time, kinda the ultimate digital nomad life haha. I'm sure some guys here do it.
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                                                  • danshan11
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                                                    • 07-08-17
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by Al Masters
                                                    There is no such thing as winning long term.
                                                    doesnt exist.

                                                    You win short term and you lose short term.
                                                    You can also lose long term as most do.

                                                    However if you can be one of the very few
                                                    who can make money from betting sports on
                                                    a regular basis over an extended period of time
                                                    you are no longer winning... you are now earning
                                                    and there is a gigantic difference between winning
                                                    and earning.
                                                    and earning does not come from a hunch or following some "Noise" trend. its hard work setting fair lines and tracking injury and weather updates to see if the move is a value move or a condition or injury change
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                                                    • danshan11
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                                                      • 07-08-17
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by September2029
                                                      Thank you danshan111! I really enjoy betting and want to make a living with it. Dream is to build a good bankroll, a liferoll travel around the world full time, kinda the ultimate digital nomad life haha. I'm sure some guys here do it.
                                                      if you want to bet sports for a living make it like any other job
                                                      you dont become a doctor operating, you got to learn every organ and how it works and then you start butchering people for peanuts!

                                                      "Earning" is very simple really
                                                      create rock solid power rankings
                                                      set a fair line on enough games to overcome variance
                                                      watch every injury and other changes that actually matter and know what they are worth
                                                      thats it SIMPLE!

                                                      and this does not happen overnight, it is an education you must get!
                                                      Last edited by danshan11; 11-06-18, 01:42 PM.
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                                                      • September2029
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                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by Al Masters
                                                        There is no such thing as winning long term.
                                                        doesnt exist.

                                                        You win short term and you lose short term.
                                                        You can also lose long term as most do.

                                                        However if you can be one of the very few
                                                        who can make money from betting sports on
                                                        a regular basis over an extended period of time
                                                        you are no longer winning... you are now earning
                                                        and there is a gigantic difference between winning
                                                        and earning.
                                                        No matter how to call it, winning/earning as long as I make it money on what I will do
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                                                        • September2029
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                                                          #98
                                                          I started working in a local sports betting shop when I was 12, watched a lot football matches everyday, never got bored, just didn't liked the place, all people smoking.
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                                                          • danshan11
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-08-17
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                                                            #99
                                                            you know how I know I am talking to the right people about sports betting

                                                            when they talk about their Power rankings
                                                            when they talk about a fair line
                                                            when they talk about value of an injury
                                                            when they ask about how close they are to closing lines with their model

                                                            when I know I am not
                                                            they talk about wins losses
                                                            ROI
                                                            squares and sharps
                                                            money movement
                                                            money on one side
                                                            square plays
                                                            traps
                                                            trends
                                                            guaranteed winners

                                                            here is my conversation with my friend yesterday

                                                            Cowboys are -4.5 and your model says cowboys -6?









                                                            yes I like the cowboys
                                                            they could win or lose but i think it has value at 4




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                                                            • Al Masters
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                                                              • 04-29-06
                                                              • 6940

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by September2029
                                                              No matter how to call it, winning/earning as long as I make it money on what I will do
                                                              I can tell from this response that you have
                                                              no shot of being one of the very few..

                                                              I’d hang it up now!

                                                              I know you can’t do that so Bol on your
                                                              journey to less $$$$ in your life.
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                                                              • September2029
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                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by Al Masters
                                                                I can tell from this response that you have
                                                                no shot of being one of the very few..

                                                                I’d hang it up now!

                                                                I know you can’t do that so Bol on your
                                                                journey to less $$$$ in your life.
                                                                Thanks for your negativity <3. I'll post a screenshot of balance each time I hit a 5k, 10k, 15k (after that I'll start withdrawing) and 50k bankroll starting with 100€ on January.

                                                                By September 2029 I would have profit 500k starting with just 100€.

                                                                To make 500k in my country I should work 139 years since average wage is 300€. I plan to make that amount in 10 years.

                                                                But its not all about to make that much money, it could be less (or more?) its about the freedom you have, wake up any time you want, bet when you want as there's always an football match playing somewhere and being able to travel and live around the world by doing the same thing.

                                                                You think I can't do it, okay we will be here. Years will go and if I do not come back here, I failed. But I will be back here, as a winner.
                                                                Last edited by September2029; 11-06-18, 02:26 PM.
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                                                                • danshan11
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                                                                  • 07-08-17
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  bet when you want, freedom, LOL sports earning is one the most time consuming hardest jobs out there.
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                                                                  • snapperman2
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                                                                    • 08-19-10
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by September2029
                                                                    I want to know why you think so also snapperman2.
                                                                    I think that you're a tout, because of what you said in post #49 of this thread. You'll be lucky if SBR doesn't ban you.
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                                                                    • September2029
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by snapperman2
                                                                      I think that you're a tout, because of what you said in post #49 of this thread. You'll be lucky if SBR doesn't ban you.
                                                                      Oh okay thank you for letting me know the reason of why you think so. I edited post #49 and took off that part.
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                                                                      • MiDNiTe
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Watching sports and gambling are two totally different things you haven't gambled yet but think you can make it, you have to gamble for awhile to even understand it
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