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Barr: no collusion but the report doesn’t exonerate the president
Trump: FULLY EXONERATED!!! Zomg lol!!!Comment -
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Meanwhile Barrack Obama is in Egypt sympathising with some muslim sect that hates Americans.Comment -
He’s still going to lose in 2020. What ironic about this trump presidency is that trump is a liberal democrat from New York and liberals are crying about someone who is one of them. With liberals ivanka and Jared kushner pushing liberal policies like freeing violent criminals and pedophiles with the first step act. Trump has been a total letdown and con artist. He lied to his base about a birthrige citizenship executive order when he had the backing of republicans. He has no chance in 2020. He’s lying to his base and the boarder is so overwhelmed from his weak liberal stance on immigration that ICE is doing what Obama did and dumping illegal aliens in red states all over the country. He’s saying that he’s built a wall which is another lie. Lie after lie and con after con. New York democrat liberal liar. I wish Brian Sandoval would primary him because I’ve always wanted to vote for him to be the president for a while.Comment -
Bump stock gun grab, Tax cuts for the rich, Birthright citizenship lies, ivanka trump and Jared kusher pushing liberal policies, Freeing criminals, bashing Ann Coulter and Steve bannon, pushing for daca illegal aliens, the list can go on and on. He is a failure and has no chance of winning Michigan or PA again.Comment -
Vindication across the Nation!!!!
Complete and utter bogus witch hunt.. Always was...
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Did Landers really accuse ANYONE of fraud????????Comment -
A person cannot collude with him/herself... gotta be a 2nd party
Mueller did not indict anyone for collusion
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Special Counsel Robert Mueller wrapped up his 675-day probe—the most politically charged investigation in American history—with a profoundly unsatisfying conclusion about whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice: Maybe.
The answer came in a convoluted four-page letter to Congress from newly installed Attorney General Bill Barr, who spent the weekend sorting through Mueller’s final report with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
“The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election,” Barr wrote in his letter to Congress, summarizing the principal conclusions of the first part of Mueller’s report. The second part covers the president’s actions, and whether they count as obstruction. On that question, Barr writes, “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Mueller’s report appears as tenacious and thorough as was to be expected of the former FBI director and long-time prosecutor: Barr reported that Mueller’s team of 19 lawyers, alongside 40 FBI agents, analysts, forensic accountants, and other staff, issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, pulled more than 230 sets of communication records, collected details from nearly 50 pen registers used to track telephone calls, and made 13 requests of foreign governments and law enforcement agencies for additional evidence. They also interviewed around 500 witnesses, although Mueller was unable to question in person a few key figures—namely, the president as well as his children Ivanka and Don Jr.
Along the way, Mueller’s team brought charges against nearly three dozen individuals—including Trump’s campaign chair, deputy campaign chair, national security advisor, and personal lawyer. They also made public, in stunning detail, the extent of the Russian government’s attack on the 2016 election, both its active cyber penetrations targeting Democratic campaigns and state-level voting systems, as well as its online information influence operations. He brought nearly 200 criminal charges, sent five people to prison, collected seven guilty pleas, and won a conviction in the probe’s single trial.
Over the course of his investigation, Mueller established two separate criminal conspiracies to aid President Trump’s election in 2016: one by the Russians, the second involving Trump himself, who was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the campaign-finance felony charges over hush money payments made to cover his affairs with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. (Trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to his role in that conspiracy, making clear that Donald Trump directed the cover-up.)
But Mueller apparently will never answer one way or the other whether the President’s actions count as obstruction. Instead, according to Barr, his report lays out the evidence on both sides of the question. The full final results of Mueller’s investigation, however long the “comprehensive” document may turn out to be, though, remain under lock-and-key at the Justice Department. Barr set no timetable for making more of it public, saying that it needs to go through a careful review first.
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Barr’s summary of Mueller’s two top-line conclusions—that the president didn’t collude with Russia and may or may not have obstructed justice—were enough to give Republicans cause for celebration and Democrats heartburn. President Trump promptly tweeted, “No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!”
In his letter, Barr said he and Rosenstein concluded that the evidence is “not sufficient” to support charging Donald Trump with obstruction, even leaving aside the thorny question of whether the president himself can be indicted. Barr’s decision, though, is sure to launch questions and subpoenas from Congressional Democrats given that before he took office he wrote an unsolicited memo arguing that Mueller was wrongly investigating Trump for obstruction.
Even as he answered the two big questions, however confusingly, Barr’s brisk summary of Mueller’s report—and particularly Mueller’s apparent decision not to issue any further indictments, a decision that appears to also exclude the possibility of further sealed indictments—leaves unanswered numerous questions from the probe and even creates new ones.
It also left pundits and congressional aides trying to parse language that appeared purposefully more nuanced than perhaps Trump’s “Total EXONERATION” might imply. For instance, in citing that “the investigation did not establish” a conspiracy with Russia, a Barr footnote pointed out that the special counsel defined “coordination” as an “agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference,” a high bar and narrow, explicit definition of what might well have been more nebulous conversations. After all, there were more than 16 Trump campaign associates who had more than 100 contacts during and after the campaign with Russians and Kremlin officials.
Some questions will likely be cleared up in the coming days, particularly as Felix Sater, the Trump Organization’s partner in the 2016 Trump Tower Moscow project who apparently cooperated extensively with Mueller, testifies this week on Capitol Hill. Other questions, though, will await the publication of the full report—or perhaps linger unanswered even longer.
Whatever happened to the extensive testimony Mueller sought and cooperation of would-be Middle Eastern power broker George Nader, dealing with questions of foreign influence related to the Middle East?
What happened to Jerome Corsi, the conspiracy theorist with whom Mueller’s team was in active, advanced plea negotiations late last fall and yet who ultimately escaped without charges?
What did Mueller mean with the various breadcrumbs he left scattered throughout his hundreds of pages of court filings, like how he appeared to single out that Russian hackers attacked Hillary Clinton’s email server “for the first time” after Trump made his “Russia, if you’re listening” comment?
What was the motive or significance of Paul Manafort turning over polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, a fact that the public only knows because of screw-ups by Manafort’s lawyers and that Mueller himself never mentioned publicly?
Was there any significance to the arrest of Russian spy Maria Butina and her ties to the National Rifle Association, which Mueller also appeared to be probing, or was that case totally unrelated?
What other parts of Mueller’s probe will continue now with other prosecutors, as we learned that deputy campaign chair Rick Gates’ case has been handed off to DC prosecutors?
What happened inside the Trump Organization as the Trump Tower Moscow deal continued in 2016 amid the campaign, a project that the candidate and later president proceeded to lie about for years?
Did Roger Stone ever actually have direct contact with WikiLeaks and Julian Assange amid the campaign?
How did Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos appear to know about Russia’s hacking operations and digital theft long before it became public?
What was Mueller’s interest in the political data firm Cambridge Analytica, which worked during the 2016 campaign with Trump’s then digital media director (and now 2020 reelection campaign director) Brad Parscale?
What was the truth behind the efforts of Michael Flynn associate Peter Smith—who apparently committed suicide in the early days of Mueller’s probe—to contact Russian hackers during the campaign?
What evidence does the US government have that Vladimir Putin himself authorized the 2016 attacks?
What exactly was discussed amid the odd meetings between Trump and Putin over the last two years—and why all the secrecy around those meetings?
Why did the Trump campaign seek to change the Republican Party platform during its Cleveland convention to be friendlier to Russia?
Why was presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner trying to set up a secure communications backchannel with the Russian government that couldn’t be heard by U.S. intelligence?
Perhaps most importantly and most puzzling: Why all the lies and cover-ups—by Michael Flynn, regarding his conversations with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak; by Paul Manafort about his dealings with Kilimnik; by Trump about his Moscow Tower; by Stone about his contacts with Wikileaks; by various officials about their contacts with Russians; by Papadopoulos, and more?
Mueller’s full report may answer some or even many of these and the almost countless other beguiling conundrums and odd circumstances that have swirled among the probe’s major figures. And yet, the fact that Mueller and perhaps the most talented team of investigators ever assembled by the Justice Department, given millions of dollars and thousands of subpoenas, apparently couldn’t come up with definitive answers themselves leaves open the question of whether we’ll ever know what really transpired inside the Trump campaign and the Russian attack on the 2016 election.Comment -
Yup let's turn this investigation crap around on the hating Democrats now. Lock em all up! Fake and set up from the very start.. That is a form of treason!!! It's only fair.
Trump was never colluding with the Russians.. Didn't obstruct either, no one was indicted for Obstruction as well. It is what it is.. NOTHING BURGER!! That's Mueller's conclusion.. End of story.
After 2 years of investigation NOTHING, Mueller could find nothing on Trump worthy of an indictment.. That's the report.. End of story.
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Liberal talking heads on TV today are not liberals! More like Fascists
A true liberal would defend the Presumption of Innocence -- These guys on TV adhere to Presumption of Guilt - like FascistsComment -
We already knew that.. Look what they did to Kavy!!! Guilty until proven innocent, more false accusations without proof.. That was disgusting.. Dems trying anything and everything these days.. That's why I think there needs to be consequences.. Slow down all the false accusations and agenda driven fake news..
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Can always count on this guy and his garbageSpecial Counsel Robert Mueller wrapped up his 675-day probe—the most politically charged investigation in American history—with a profoundly unsatisfying conclusion about whether President Donald Trump obstructed justice: Maybe.
The answer came in a convoluted four-page letter to Congress from newly installed Attorney General Bill Barr, who spent the weekend sorting through Mueller’s final report with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
“The Special Counsel’s investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election,” Barr wrote in his letter to Congress, summarizing the principal conclusions of the first part of Mueller’s report. The second part covers the president’s actions, and whether they count as obstruction. On that question, Barr writes, “the Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’”
Mueller’s report appears as tenacious and thorough as was to be expected of the former FBI director and long-time prosecutor: Barr reported that Mueller’s team of 19 lawyers, alongside 40 FBI agents, analysts, forensic accountants, and other staff, issued more than 2,800 subpoenas, executed nearly 500 search warrants, pulled more than 230 sets of communication records, collected details from nearly 50 pen registers used to track telephone calls, and made 13 requests of foreign governments and law enforcement agencies for additional evidence. They also interviewed around 500 witnesses, although Mueller was unable to question in person a few key figures—namely, the president as well as his children Ivanka and Don Jr.
Along the way, Mueller’s team brought charges against nearly three dozen individuals—including Trump’s campaign chair, deputy campaign chair, national security advisor, and personal lawyer. They also made public, in stunning detail, the extent of the Russian government’s attack on the 2016 election, both its active cyber penetrations targeting Democratic campaigns and state-level voting systems, as well as its online information influence operations. He brought nearly 200 criminal charges, sent five people to prison, collected seven guilty pleas, and won a conviction in the probe’s single trial.
Over the course of his investigation, Mueller established two separate criminal conspiracies to aid President Trump’s election in 2016: one by the Russians, the second involving Trump himself, who was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the campaign-finance felony charges over hush money payments made to cover his affairs with Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. (Trump lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to his role in that conspiracy, making clear that Donald Trump directed the cover-up.)
But Mueller apparently will never answer one way or the other whether the President’s actions count as obstruction. Instead, according to Barr, his report lays out the evidence on both sides of the question. The full final results of Mueller’s investigation, however long the “comprehensive” document may turn out to be, though, remain under lock-and-key at the Justice Department. Barr set no timetable for making more of it public, saying that it needs to go through a careful review first.
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Barr’s summary of Mueller’s two top-line conclusions—that the president didn’t collude with Russia and may or may not have obstructed justice—were enough to give Republicans cause for celebration and Democrats heartburn. President Trump promptly tweeted, “No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION. KEEP AMERICA GREAT!”
In his letter, Barr said he and Rosenstein concluded that the evidence is “not sufficient” to support charging Donald Trump with obstruction, even leaving aside the thorny question of whether the president himself can be indicted. Barr’s decision, though, is sure to launch questions and subpoenas from Congressional Democrats given that before he took office he wrote an unsolicited memo arguing that Mueller was wrongly investigating Trump for obstruction.
Even as he answered the two big questions, however confusingly, Barr’s brisk summary of Mueller’s report—and particularly Mueller’s apparent decision not to issue any further indictments, a decision that appears to also exclude the possibility of further sealed indictments—leaves unanswered numerous questions from the probe and even creates new ones.
It also left pundits and congressional aides trying to parse language that appeared purposefully more nuanced than perhaps Trump’s “Total EXONERATION” might imply. For instance, in citing that “the investigation did not establish” a conspiracy with Russia, a Barr footnote pointed out that the special counsel defined “coordination” as an “agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference,” a high bar and narrow, explicit definition of what might well have been more nebulous conversations. After all, there were more than 16 Trump campaign associates who had more than 100 contacts during and after the campaign with Russians and Kremlin officials.
Some questions will likely be cleared up in the coming days, particularly as Felix Sater, the Trump Organization’s partner in the 2016 Trump Tower Moscow project who apparently cooperated extensively with Mueller, testifies this week on Capitol Hill. Other questions, though, will await the publication of the full report—or perhaps linger unanswered even longer.
Whatever happened to the extensive testimony Mueller sought and cooperation of would-be Middle Eastern power broker George Nader, dealing with questions of foreign influence related to the Middle East?
What happened to Jerome Corsi, the conspiracy theorist with whom Mueller’s team was in active, advanced plea negotiations late last fall and yet who ultimately escaped without charges?
What did Mueller mean with the various breadcrumbs he left scattered throughout his hundreds of pages of court filings, like how he appeared to single out that Russian hackers attacked Hillary Clinton’s email server “for the first time” after Trump made his “Russia, if you’re listening” comment?
What was the motive or significance of Paul Manafort turning over polling data to Konstantin Kilimnik, a fact that the public only knows because of screw-ups by Manafort’s lawyers and that Mueller himself never mentioned publicly?
Was there any significance to the arrest of Russian spy Maria Butina and her ties to the National Rifle Association, which Mueller also appeared to be probing, or was that case totally unrelated?
What other parts of Mueller’s probe will continue now with other prosecutors, as we learned that deputy campaign chair Rick Gates’ case has been handed off to DC prosecutors?
What happened inside the Trump Organization as the Trump Tower Moscow deal continued in 2016 amid the campaign, a project that the candidate and later president proceeded to lie about for years?
Did Roger Stone ever actually have direct contact with WikiLeaks and Julian Assange amid the campaign?
How did Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos appear to know about Russia’s hacking operations and digital theft long before it became public?
What was Mueller’s interest in the political data firm Cambridge Analytica, which worked during the 2016 campaign with Trump’s then digital media director (and now 2020 reelection campaign director) Brad Parscale?
What was the truth behind the efforts of Michael Flynn associate Peter Smith—who apparently committed suicide in the early days of Mueller’s probe—to contact Russian hackers during the campaign?
What evidence does the US government have that Vladimir Putin himself authorized the 2016 attacks?
What exactly was discussed amid the odd meetings between Trump and Putin over the last two years—and why all the secrecy around those meetings?
Why did the Trump campaign seek to change the Republican Party platform during its Cleveland convention to be friendlier to Russia?
Why was presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner trying to set up a secure communications backchannel with the Russian government that couldn’t be heard by U.S. intelligence?
Perhaps most importantly and most puzzling: Why all the lies and cover-ups—by Michael Flynn, regarding his conversations with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak; by Paul Manafort about his dealings with Kilimnik; by Trump about his Moscow Tower; by Stone about his contacts with Wikileaks; by various officials about their contacts with Russians; by Papadopoulos, and more?
Mueller’s full report may answer some or even many of these and the almost countless other beguiling conundrums and odd circumstances that have swirled among the probe’s major figures. And yet, the fact that Mueller and perhaps the most talented team of investigators ever assembled by the Justice Department, given millions of dollars and thousands of subpoenas, apparently couldn’t come up with definitive answers themselves leaves open the question of whether we’ll ever know what really transpired inside the Trump campaign and the Russian attack on the 2016 election.Comment -
What would be epic is if Wikileaks releases the full report.Comment -
Vitterd literally uses the same exact talking points that the fake news uses...guy has never had a thought of his own in his lifeComment -
I think its pretty obvious there was collusion and Putin got to Mueller. For years media and politicians said there was evidence. So it just disappeared?
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first and foremost obstruction is still on the table. second, we would all like to see the report, right. seems like everybody involved is "claiming" even the crime cartel we know as the Trump family, yet there is still doubt. hmmm. and a very secondary thought, you crazies wrote so many ugly comments about Mueller being in on the fix, and corrupt, and a RINO, and part of the deep state. What happened to all that BS you crazies wrote for 2 years.
I know, if the report comes out and there is substantial obstruction evidence then we will be back to the deep state. This is why we call you crazies.Comment -
Donald beats the opposition once again. If he gambled no one could take his action. Pure winner.Comment -
Obstruction is not on the table.. Mueller could not and would not bring chargers up on Obstruction because there wasn't enough there.. Barr concluded the same.. It's done...
There is no Obstruction and nothing will come about even when the full report comes out.
Keep dreaming and grasping at straws with that nothing burger Dante, not happening... Dems don't give up and their hate for Trump runs deep, I'll give them that much.
No apologies from Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff for guaranteeing there is 100% proof of collusion and obstruction on TRUMP for the past year.. Egg on their face today!! Can't even come out admit they were WRONG.. Shameful politicians..
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Lol obstruction
Turn off the fukkin TVComment -
First of all Hillary is all i had to chose from because i would never vote for a conman and secondly just because Fox News and Nitwit neocon radio demonized the woman for twenty five years and u slurped it up like a slurpee u simpleton, it is not my fault. Do you know how many charges have stuck with Hillary? All you clueless bozo’s who chanted lock her up lock her up, you would think u could just get one thing to stick.Last edited by Thor4140; 03-25-19, 11:37 AM.Comment -
dems have been imploding on "center" stage for over 2 years nowObstruction is not on the table.. Mueller could not and would not bring chargers up on Obstruction because there wasn't enough there.. Barr concluded the same.. It's done...
There is no Obstruction and nothing will come about even when the full report comes out.
Keep dreaming and grasping at straws with that nothing burger Dante, not happening... Dems don't give up and their hate for Trump runs deep, I'll give them that much.
No apologies from Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff for guaranteeing there is 100% proof of collusion and obstruction on TRUMP for the past year.. Egg on their face today!! Can't even come out admit they were WRONG.. Shameful politicians..
you cant reason with the 3rd of the country that will back them no matter what. they won't budge. just like a 3rd of the country wont budge on the right
middle people are seeing and witnessing their delusions front and center and it will cost them for years to comeComment -
The tards have made a hard pivot and are now in full Obstrution mode . They’re like a dog chasing it’s tail. This is comedy gold to observe .Comment -
I agree, they are so fake news media blinded at this point and full of Trump hate that they probably still think Trump colluded with the Russians even after their Dem led investigation crew under Mueller found nothing after 2 years..
A special Council under Mueller that the Dems put together at the very start.. They don't even believe Mueller now.. Comedy show with the hard left.. Constantly failing on every level..Comment
