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  • drooller
    SBR Rookie
    • 04-03-19
    • 5

    #1
    Can you help me predict better?
    Hey ppl!

    I am new around here, but I really want to get some of your knowledge about betting and work of bookies. I am also new to betting, but a big fan of computers and mathematics. To which extent is it possible to predict the future in such a specific aspect as sports and soccer?

    Firing up big mathematical machine by supplying it lots of data about soccer I have managed to create very simplistic algorithm that calculates relative team's strength and compares it with opponent's to determine who would win.

    I have managed to make it show results of it work by writing something like that
    Team A - Team B
    Team A wins: xx%
    even: xx%
    Team B wins: xx%

    Can this be interesting for somebody or I am doing pointless work? May be I can develop some additional features? What do you think about it?
  • MC PICKS
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-10-10
    • 6644

    #2
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    • SlickFazzer
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-22-08
      • 20209

      #3
      Follow all the pro gamblers here at SBR.
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      • cincinnatikid513
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 11-23-17
        • 45360

        #4
        i'm sure vegas dave would be interested in your mathematical machine
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        • drooller
          SBR Rookie
          • 04-03-19
          • 5

          #5
          Never heard about Vegas Dave. Let my journey to betting and gambling begin. Thanks!
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          • MC PICKS
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-10-10
            • 6644

            #6
            Originally posted by drooller
            Never heard about Vegas Dave. Let my journey to betting and gambling begin. Thanks!
            Good cause you don't wanna know him. If you're a numbers guy you don't predict shit. Good luck.
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            • Gaze73
              SBR MVP
              • 01-27-14
              • 3291

              #7
              Look up any website with free predictions, they are all math based and for some reason they all suck. E.g. home team goal stats are 24:18, road team is 20:22, and yet for some god damn reason the predictor says it will end 3-0, even though the home team didn't win 3-0 a single time in the past 20 games, and the road team didn't lose 3-0 in 20 games. I've never seen a predictor that would have any degree of accuracy.
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              • Philmill
                SBR MVP
                • 09-30-11
                • 4275

                #8
                Long storey short.... find the team thats playing in the top of there league... this year in NFL it was New England, this year in NHL it was Tampa Bay, last year in MLB it was the Red Soxs, follow the top and bet them in good spots or very game if they cant loose....You can even add your math system to it.... very gambler has their own system....so find yours....
                GL
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388189

                  #9
                  waste of time
                  no systems work


                  everything factored into the lines
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                  • SlickFazzer
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 05-22-08
                    • 20209

                    #10
                    Only bet 1 game a week.

                    Better ways to make money in this world.
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                    • Bostongambler
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 02-01-08
                      • 35581

                      #11
                      Flip a coin
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                      • eaglesfan371
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-08-19
                        • 4079

                        #12
                        I would advise to post in the "think tank" section of this forum. The quants and people who use models live in there. You will not find good advice here in player's talk for modelling.
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                        • Philmill
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-30-11
                          • 4275

                          #13
                          Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                          I would advise to post in the "think tank" section of this forum. The quants and people who use models live in there. You will not find good advice here in player's talk for modelling.
                          good advice eagles....
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #14
                            I have a magic quarter that works at least half the time! You seem like a nice guy, I could sell it to ya for a reasonable price. Let me know, I have a lot of offers.
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                            • JIBBBY
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 12-10-09
                              • 83691

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SlickFazzer
                              Fade all the pro gamblers here at SBR.
                              Fixed

                              Look and follow team and player trends it usually works out for me. Not always though..
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                              • 2daBank
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 01-26-09
                                • 88966

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                Fixed

                                Look and follow team and player trends it usually works out for me. Not always though..
                                Would you like to buy one my magic quarters? 50% of the time it works all the time!!
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                                • ChuckyTheGoat
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 04-04-11
                                  • 36660

                                  #17
                                  Wow, u came to the right place. Full-proof predictions.

                                  Only issue is that u may need to make a 2nd trip to the cage w/ your wheel-barrow, b/c one trip won't be able to carry all the sheckles.
                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                  • drooller
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 04-03-19
                                    • 5

                                    #18
                                    Thanks for all the replies! It gave me a good starting point.
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                                    • danshan11
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 07-08-17
                                      • 4101

                                      #19
                                      winning is simple you need to do 2 things
                                      1 create a fair line that over a decent sample size is very close to the closing line
                                      2 find enough games to overcome the possibility of a variance
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                                      • eaglesfan371
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-08-19
                                        • 4079

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by danshan11
                                        winning is simple you need to do 2 things
                                        1 create a fair line that over a decent sample size is very close to the closing line
                                        2 find enough games to overcome the possibility of a variance
                                        You forgot to backtest your model and assumptions to ensure they are +EV. Just having a model that is near closing lines does nothing. You could be on the opposite side of +EV and be even more -EV.
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                                        • danshan11
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-08-17
                                          • 4101

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by eaglesfan371
                                          You forgot to backtest your model and assumptions to ensure they are +EV. Just having a model that is near closing lines does nothing. You could be on the opposite side of +EV and be even more -EV.
                                          you cannot be -EV if you can accurately predict what the closing lines will be at a high rate.

                                          if you got Yankees -150 and the current line bet at line is -120, you would expect with an accurate model that the line will go towards that -150 since we are assuming you created a fair line with good modeling, you also need to make sure it moves enough to cover the jugo! the question is can you do this accurately enough to overcome the very hungry variance monster?

                                          you cannot backtest your probability of past events trying to create a fair line!
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