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  • mpaschal34
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-04-13
    • 12084

    #211
    Originally posted by bonzaii
    Make sure there HD and you take enough close ups. Have you narrowed the list down yet?
    Someone needs to post the link so bonzaii knows what I’m talking about.
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    • JoeCool20
      SBR MVP
      • 05-31-18
      • 4440

      #212
      Originally posted by GUMMO77
      At the end of all this is that SBR, with this format, is pushing less skill and more luck than before.
      Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
      You're going to get more all ins than ever before... at least you can get these tournaments done in under an hour. I agree with GUMMO77 though... this isn't a true game of POKER.


      Yep, for somebody like me who does play a "true game of poker" this is a brutal change for me.

      For all the people who just raise and/or call big bets every time they get an ace-rag, or 2 face cards,

      this is PERFECT for their style!

      Just do it, and see if you keep winning the 50/50 "gambles" over and over to get a big chip stack,

      or lose quickly and go do something else! LOL

      I told the one's who played like that in the last tourney that I didn't think that was a bad way to play a 30 person tourney! And it isn't!

      Hell, I know that I will be doing it too in this format.

      But like I say, the "wild-luck gambling" with 2 high cards or an ace shit rarely works for me!

      I hardly ever donk out what I need! LOL And I sure as hell rarely can pull it off TEN TIMES in one tourney!

      But with all that said, I'm glad there will be a LOT less time invested with this format.

      I won't have to "grind it out" for 3 months this way!

      Just give me an ace, or two faces, and let the "wild luck donking" begin! LOL

      But I agree, that isn't "true poker" at all.

      May as well just give us 500 chips, and make it "Super Turbo" blinds and get it over with in 30 minutes or less!
      Last edited by JoeCool20; 04-25-19, 09:34 PM.
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      • eaglesfan371
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-19
        • 4079

        #213
        Joe has anyone called you an OMC before?
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        • JoeCool20
          SBR MVP
          • 05-31-18
          • 4440

          #214
          I told every body that would listen in that last Poker Event that the WHOLE THREE MONTHS of qualifying didn't matter one damn bit!

          I told them the ONLY thing that mattered was who got lucky in the final game for the real money!!

          Hell, this format is GREAT in that regard! Just see which 18 people luck donk the most for a month,

          AND THEN see who luck donks it up in the final game for the money, and get it over with! LOL

          It's going to give me a chance to play the EXACT opposite of how I usually play "real" poker!
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          • JoeCool20
            SBR MVP
            • 05-31-18
            • 4440

            #215
            Originally posted by eaglesfan371
            Joe has anyone called you an OMC before?



            LOL No they call me "Mr. ABC Poker" or "Mr. Consistency".

            If I want to be a "maniac" then I'll play blackjack, or bet a first quarter line, not play poker to do it!


            If you play the "wild gambling" style with me long enough, then I'll have all your chips!

            "All night he Check, Check, Check! He trapped me!"



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            • USCPHILLYGUY
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-15-12
              • 21744

              #216
              I must be missing something here. Only person going all in w shit was snapperclown who was felted 10th or 11th after chip leader. I thought it much more skill based.
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              • JoeCool20
                SBR MVP
                • 05-31-18
                • 4440

                #217
                Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                I must be missing something here. Only person going all in w shit was snapperclown who was felted 10th or 11th after chip leader. I thought it much more skill based.


                I think It will only make people gamble on the 50/50 shots a little sooner than they would have with 1500 starting chips.
                Because when people go from the measly 1000 starting chips down to say, only 400 or 500 chips, they will go all in instead of betting 200 or 300 like they would if they had more chips left.
                But hell, who gives a fuk about that?
                Like I said, the quicker the better! Just hurry up and try to luck- donk it in, or get it over with!
                Last edited by JoeCool20; 04-26-19, 12:06 AM.
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                • blankoblanco
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-18-11
                  • 3486

                  #218
                  Joe is actually getting at something relevant here

                  Like, some people are acting as if the format was super skillful before or something. "IT'S NOT REAL POKER ANYMORE!!" What the hell is this delusion, dudes? It was a tournament that lasted an hour and a half. Was that "real poker"? Oh yeah, that was some really crazy skill intensive shit with incredible outplays, I'll tell you what. Now that it's gonna take 20 minutes less, everything is totally ruined

                  You don't play "real poker" for a grand prize of 300 points on SBR because "real poker" in tournament form takes several goddamn hours if not days and that would be a pretty awful use of time. Go play WSOP or WPT events all you want, sure. I don't know how much of your incredible skill you think is gonna be expressed in a 1-2 hour long tournament
                  Last edited by blankoblanco; 04-26-19, 12:19 AM.
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                  • JoeCool20
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-31-18
                    • 4440

                    #219
                    Yep. "Real Poker" to me is hours and hours of grinding it out! Not 90 minutes! So is "real" tourney poker.

                    This shit on SBR is "donk mania." Hell, with 1000 chips it will just be "donk mania" a little sooner rather than later.
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                    • bobbywaves
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-06-08
                      • 13280

                      #220
                      Originally posted by mpaschal34
                      Someone needs to post the link so bonzaii knows what I’m talking about.
                      Would you bang this Cougar?
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                      • pabonaparte
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-21-16
                        • 3563

                        #221
                        Originally posted by bonzaii
                        Yeah people don't want change thats why there are complaints.There's still strategy involved and the new format keeps you engaged the whole time with quick pace instead of waiting around like a sloth watching a game or looking up porn waiting for someone to make a decision. Hand for hand would be a nice addition to have. Most of the chips at the final two tables earlier were all on one table. Luckily, most of us made it out alive.
                        This made me laugh and made me want to go rewatch Zoolandia again. What a great cartoon.

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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65086

                          #222
                          Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                          Drew gotta say 1st time playing today and love the new format. Deff more strategy involved and you really have to pick your spots. Case in point. Snapperclown chip leader w 10 left. Instead of understanding the situation and getting to the final table (yes I know, 6 now) he does his typical all in with shit and gets caught. The new format is quick and to the point. No need for any horseshit voting. The guys who have had some success with the old format are of course not going to want change. I would suggest going hand for hand (as Bonzai mentioned today at table) when you get down to 8-10
                          well said

                          Originally posted by mpaschal34
                          Why not round up to 24?
                          good idea
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                          • SBR Drew
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-08-18
                            • 7351

                            #223
                            Loving the out pour of positivity here from the loyal Poker players, Since most want "REAL POKER" brought back (they believe our Poker FREE Events aren't REAL and forget they are FREE) we will be using the following format in July:

                            Stone Age Poker

                            Chips: 100,000
                            Levels: 400
                            Breaks: Every round 30 minutes for each
                            Removed for being 15 mins late: No We Encourage it be as late as you want we wont start without you
                            Blinds: 1/2 for first 100 rounds then 2/3 etc
                            Prizes: All finishers get $10 in bitcoin sent in a few years
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                            • ArunSh
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-24-07
                              • 6801

                              #224
                              Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                              You're going to get more all ins than ever before... at least you can get these tournaments done in under an hour. I agree with GUMMO77 though... this isn't a true game of POKER.

                              Originally posted by blankoblanco
                              Like, some people are acting as if the format was super skillful before or something. "IT'S NOT REAL POKER ANYMORE!!" What the hell is this delusion, dudes? It was a tournament that lasted an hour and a half. Was that "real poker"? Oh yeah, that was some really crazy skill intensive shit with incredible outplays, I'll tell you what. Now that it's gonna take 20 minutes less, everything is totally ruined

                              I think blanko is quite correct. Anyone who thinks the old format was "real" poker, I mean come on. Low stakes aside, do you think professional tournament players who play in the WSOP/WPT would consider the old structure in the dailies to be "real" poker?? Sure the new format has more short term luck/variance, but acting like the old format was some huge test of skill when it always reduced to a huge shove fest late ... let's be realistic here.

                              I mean this also begs the question: what is "real" poker anyway (if that can even be quantified)? Everyone could have a different view on that. Many cash game players who don't play tournaments at all believe tournaments in general are not "real" poker since they pretty much all degenerate late into situations where most people are only shoving preflop - basically no postflop play whatsoever. Again is that "real" poker? Hold'em is after all a seven card game, not a two card game, and when the format degenerates into situations where people are essentially only playing their first two cards...well, again how "real" is that? Some would certainly claim that unless the stacks are deep enough to reliably allow for actual decisions to be made preflop, on the flop, turn, and river, then it's not "real" poker.

                              Whatever your personal opinion might be on what is "real" poker and what isn't, this general attitude I'm sensing from many folks that this new format is 100% luck while the old format was some huge test of skill seems to be wildly exaggerated.
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                              • USCPHILLYGUY
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 12-15-12
                                • 21744

                                #225
                                Drew in rare form
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                                • mpaschal34
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-04-13
                                  • 12084

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                  Loving the out pour of positivity here from the loyal Poker players, Since most want "REAL POKER" brought back (they believe our Poker FREE Events aren't REAL and forget they are FREE) we will be using the following format in July:

                                  Stone Age Poker

                                  Chips: 100,000
                                  Levels: 400
                                  Breaks: Every round 30 minutes for each
                                  Removed for being 15 mins late: No We Encourage it be as late as you want we wont start without you
                                  Blinds: 1/2 for first 100 rounds then 2/3 etc
                                  Prizes: All finishers get $10 in bitcoin sent in a few years
                                  Shouldn’t it be 1,000,000 in chips???

                                  SBR Doug would have known this.
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                                  • OVAKUL
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-16-17
                                    • 1537

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                    Loving the out pour of positivity here from the loyal Poker players, Since most want "REAL POKER" brought back (they believe our Poker FREE Events aren't REAL and forget they are FREE) we will be using the following format in July:

                                    Stone Age Poker

                                    Chips: 100,000
                                    Levels: 400
                                    Breaks: Every round 30 minutes for each
                                    Removed for being 15 mins late: No We Encourage it be as late as you want we wont start without you
                                    Blinds: 1/2 for first 100 rounds then 2/3 etc
                                    Prizes: All finishers get $10 in bitcoin sent in a few years
                                    $10 in bitcoin in a few years could buy a house!
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                                    • SBR Drew
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-08-18
                                      • 7351

                                      #228
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                                      • SBR Drew
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-08-18
                                        • 7351

                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                        Shouldn’t it be 1,000,000 in chips???

                                        SBR Doug would have known this.
                                        do some research SBR Doug...SBR Drew...notice anything?
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                                        • USCPHILLYGUY
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-15-12
                                          • 21744

                                          #230
                                          Drew do you have any vacation time coming up
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                                          • SBR Drew
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-08-18
                                            • 7351

                                            #231
                                            Yes taking June-August off this year..will be in Monaco, Sweden, and Portugal. Scored 3 houses on Airbnb one for each month/Country.
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                                            • TheMoneyShot
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 02-14-07
                                              • 28672

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by blankoblanco
                                              Joe is actually getting at something relevant here
                                              Like, some people are acting as if the format was super skillful before or something. "IT'S NOT REAL POKER ANYMORE!!" What the hell is this delusion, dudes?
                                              Originally posted by ArunSh
                                              I think blanko is quite correct. Anyone who thinks the old format was "real" poker, I mean come on.
                                              And I agree 100%. If there was ever a shot at REAL POKER.... it's for sure shot into the ground with this new style.

                                              I'm glad everyone is admitting this is just JOLLY POKER.

                                              So when anyone gets a bad beat... don't complain. Take it like a man.


                                              That goes for AUTODONKER.... I don't want to see any BS on the side bar lol complaining
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                                              • USCPHILLYGUY
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-15-12
                                                • 21744

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                                Yes taking June-August off this year..will be in Monaco, Sweden, and Portugal. Scored 3 houses on Airbnb one for each month/Country.
                                                Wow. Have a great trip / time

                                                SBR. Where dreams do come true
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 51807

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                                  Loving the out pour of positivity here from the loyal Poker players, Since most want "REAL POKER" brought back (they believe our Poker FREE Events aren't REAL and forget they are FREE) we will be using the following format in July:

                                                  Stone Age Poker

                                                  Chips: 100,000
                                                  Levels: 400
                                                  Breaks: Every round 30 minutes for each
                                                  Removed for being 15 mins late: No We Encourage it be as late as you want we wont start without you
                                                  Blinds: 1/2 for first 100 rounds then 2/3 etc
                                                  Prizes: All finishers get $10 in bitcoin sent in a few years
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                                                  • CarolinaDaze
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-07-09
                                                    • 6844

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                                    Yes taking June-August off this year..will be in Monaco, Sweden, and Portugal. Scored 3 houses on Airbnb one for each month/Country.
                                                    This
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                                                    • katstale
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-07-07
                                                      • 3924

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by SBR Drew





























                                                      Prizes: All finishers get $10 in bitcoin sent in a few years
                                                      This is pretty much what some of us have now.
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                                                      • mikejamm
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-24-09
                                                        • 11034

                                                        #237
                                                        I don't agree with the donkster very often, but spot on! Fuk this format! 1000 chips at a 6 player table sucks donkey balls! Might as well call it a dumb fuk turbo for shove and pray losers. You could've at least stuck with the 1500 starting stack. Waste of fuk'in time, assholes bitch'in about how long the regular format took, like they've got some fuk'in place special to be!

                                                        Nice try SBR, but epic fail! 1000 chip starting stack, only pay'in out top 6, you've killed the action at the cash tables too. Rollover for 6 people. Fuk'in deadville.
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                                                        • bobbywaves
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-06-08
                                                          • 13280

                                                          #238
                                                          Originally posted by SBR Drew
                                                          we will be using the following format in July:
                                                          Stone Age Poker
                                                          Chips: 100,000
                                                          Levels: 400
                                                          Breaks: Every round 30 minutes for each
                                                          Removed for being 15 mins late: No We Encourage it be as late as you want we wont start without you
                                                          Blinds: 1/2 for first 100 rounds then 2/3 etc
                                                          Prizes: All finishers get $10 in bitcoin sent in a few years
                                                          Since time is not an issue for retired folks, this is a structure right up my alley.

                                                          Looking forward to July.
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                                                          • blankoblanco
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-18-11
                                                            • 3486

                                                            #239
                                                            Bobby, skill might be an issue, since you didn't qualify in the last one that was longer. New structure is probably doing you a favor. You can make it this time!
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                                                            • JoeCool20
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-31-18
                                                              • 4440

                                                              #240
                                                              I agree with several posts here. What is the true definition of "real poker?"


                                                              Cash poker is TOTALLY different than tournament poker! And a 30 person tourney with a small starting stack is different than cash poker AND different than other types of tournament poker!
                                                              And I Especially agree about how when it gets late in the game/tourney,
                                                              then a 30 person tourney turns into a "shove fest."

                                                              My opinion is that, since it is a (approximately) 30 person tourney, it is going to be an "all in fest" towards the
                                                              end ANYWAY, so why not drop the chips to 1000 and make it a "shove fest" earlier?

                                                              Dude was SO RIGHT about 30 person tourney being SOLELY all about the 2 hole cards when only like 6 or 7 people are left.
                                                              It is not "real poker" or "cash poker" to only let the gambling be about the 2 hole cards instead of all 7 cards.
                                                              BUT.... That IS what a 30 person tournament is going to come down to every damn time!
                                                              So this format is "real" 30 person tournament poker style!

                                                              JUST like the other format (with 1500 starting chips) was "real" 30 person tournament poker!
                                                              It just took longer with more starting chips to get down to the last few people starting the "shove fest!"

                                                              Why not start with only 1000 chips instead of 1500 when it is going to come down to the EXACT same thing towards the end every time anyway? Which is a "wild-ass luck" shove fest!


                                                              I love this format!

                                                              Who the hell wants it to take LONGER to get down to the freakin "wild donk-luck" all-in bullcrap? Not me!

                                                              Start with only 1000 chips and make it take LESS time to start the "all-in luck donking" when only 5 or 6 players are left!


                                                              Last edited by JoeCool20; 04-27-19, 12:30 AM.
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                                                              • GUMMO77
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 08-23-10
                                                                • 9294

                                                                #241
                                                                WTF is going on here
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                                                                • GUMMO77
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-23-10
                                                                  • 9294

                                                                  #242
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                                                                  • JoeCool20
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-31-18
                                                                    • 4440

                                                                    #243
                                                                    I made it to the last 6 people tonight and the "shove fest" was me with A 8 and the other dude with A 5.

                                                                    So I'm a 65% favorite.

                                                                    The first 3 cards flopped were 2 3 4 and the dude had "luck donked" a straight with his A 5 right off the bat!


                                                                    So instead of having the chip lead, I was crushed and I was out a few hands later.


                                                                    My point here is that since 30 person tourneys are going to come down to that type of all-in bullshit ANYWAY, then I'm glad that it hadn't taken but about 45 minutes for the shit to happen, INSTEAD of it happening after an hour and a half!


                                                                    Why the fuk would I want to spend/waste TWICE as much of my time/life for that luck donk shit to start?


                                                                    I wouldn't!


                                                                    So I will reiterate! I love this format!

                                                                    Who the hell wants it to take LONGER to get down to the freakin "wild donk-luck" all-in bullcrap? Not me!

                                                                    Start with only 1000 chips and make it take LESS time to start the "all-in luck donking" when only 5 or 6 players are left!
                                                                    Last edited by JoeCool20; 04-27-19, 12:42 AM.
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                                                                    • SBR Drew
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-08-18
                                                                      • 7351

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by JoeCool20
                                                                      I agree with several posts here. What is the true definition of "real poker?"


                                                                      Cash poker is TOTALLY different than tournament poker! And a 30 person tourney with a small starting stack is different than cash poker AND different than other types of tournament poker!
                                                                      And I Especially agree about how when it gets late in the game/tourney,
                                                                      then a 30 person tourney turns into a "shove fest."

                                                                      My opinion is that, since it is a (approximately) 30 person tourney, it is going to be an "all in fest" towards the
                                                                      end ANYWAY, so why not drop the chips to 1000 and make it a "shove fest" earlier?

                                                                      Dude was SO RIGHT about 30 person tourney being SOLELY all about the 2 hole cards when only like 6 or 7 people are left.
                                                                      It is not "real poker" or "cash poker" to only let the gambling be about the 2 hole cards instead of all 7 cards.
                                                                      BUT.... That IS what a 30 person tournament is going to come down to every damn time!
                                                                      So this format is "real" 30 person tournament poker style!

                                                                      JUST like the other format (with 1500 starting chips) was "real" 30 person tournament poker!
                                                                      It just took longer with more starting chips to get down to the last few people starting the "shove fest!"

                                                                      Why not start with only 1000 chips instead of 1500 when it is going to come down to the EXACT same thing towards the end every time anyway? Which is a "wild-ass luck" shove fest!


                                                                      I love this format!

                                                                      Who the hell wants it to take LONGER to get down to the freakin "wild donk-luck" all-in bullcrap? Not me!

                                                                      Start with only 1000 chips and make it take LESS time to start the "all-in luck donking" when only 5 or 6 players are left!


                                                                      Nominated for POST OF THE YEAR. words of wisdom here.
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                                                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 03-11-11
                                                                        • 29217

                                                                        #245
                                                                        good stuff drew
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