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  • kingdom
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 07-25-10
    • 10099

    #141
    Originally posted by thomorino
    This feels like Toronto wins game 2 and then Durant comes back game 3, I don't think Durant is done, legacy is everything to him, he's obsessed with being the top player in the game.
    its better for his legacy to be 2-0 with 2 finals mvp. come back down 2 hurt and lose doesn't help. looks better that they couldn't win without him for his legacy. warriors won in 15 without kyrie and love playing. lost in 16 up 3-1. won 2 easily with kd. and if they lose to toronto without him, it makes the warriors legacy with steph and no kd very questionable.
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    • Plaza23
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      • 12-29-13
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      #142
      Originally posted by kingdom
      its better for his legacy to be 2-0 with 2 finals mvp. come back down 2 hurt and lose doesn't help. looks better that they couldn't win without him for his legacy. warriors won in 15 without kyrie and love playing. lost in 16 up 3-1. won 2 easily with kd. and if they lose to toronto without him, it makes the warriors legacy with steph and no kd very questionable.
      Yes, remember KD is the ultimate front runner. That's why he signed with the Warriors. I'd be very surprised if KD plays another minute for the Warriors if they are down 0-2. Down 0-2 is not a front running position.

      If he comes back and they still lose, he looks bad. Down 2-0, and KD being very rusty having sat out for almost a month - very good possibility he wouldn't be effective and they'd lose anyway. But if he sits out, everyone will say "look how important KD was to the team".

      KD sitting out, if the Warriors lose Game 2, makes too much sense. I don't think KD has the pride to try to be the hero in an 0-2 situation
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      • kingdom
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        • 07-25-10
        • 10099

        #143
        Originally posted by Plaza23
        Yes, remember KD is the ultimate front runner. That's why he signed with the Warriors. I'd be very surprised if KD plays another minute for the Warriors if they are down 0-2. Down 0-2 is not a front running position.

        If he comes back and they still lose, he looks bad. Down 2-0, and KD being very rusty having sat out for almost a month - very good possibility he wouldn't be effective and they'd lose anyway. But if he sits out, everyone will say "look how important KD was to the team".

        KD sitting out, if the Warriors lose Game 2, makes too much sense. I don't think KD has the pride to try to be the hero in an 0-2 situation
        it brings this "great" warrior legacy into question as well. do they beat the '15 cavs with kyrie and love? they lose in 16 up 3-1. and if they can't beat the raps with kawhi and a bunch of dudes essentially, how great are they without the kd years?
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        • spippen
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          • 03-17-09
          • 3874

          #144
          Cousins was useless as expected. Gave GS nothing.
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          • thomorino
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            • 06-01-17
            • 45842

            #145
            Durant is expected back for game 4 at the latest, game 3 is possible

            There’s some optimism within members of the organization that a Game 3 arrival could be viable, but there’s a stronger possibility that Game 4 is the most logical option, sources said.
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            • thomorino
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              • 06-01-17
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              #146
              Originally posted by kingdom

              its better for his legacy to be 2-0 with 2 finals mvp. come back down 2 hurt and lose doesn't help. looks better that they couldn't win without him for his legacy. warriors won in 15 without kyrie and love playing. lost in 16 up 3-1. won 2 easily with kd. and if they lose to toronto without him, it makes the warriors legacy with steph and no kd very questionable.
              Durant's legacy is better if he comes back and GS wins.
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              • lakerboy
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                • 04-02-09
                • 94363

                #147
                Might be too little too late
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                • asiagambler
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                  • 07-23-17
                  • 6831

                  #148
                  Originally posted by thomorino
                  Durant is expected back for game 4 at the latest, game 3 is possible

                  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/sources...122615919.html
                  Would he even come back though if they are down 3-0? I think that's a real possibility.
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                  • thomorino
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                    • 06-01-17
                    • 45842

                    #149
                    Originally posted by asiagambler

                    Would he even come back though if they are down 3-0? I think that's a real possibility.
                    The NBA desperately wants a long series, if GS is down 2-0 they will get all the calls, its highly unlikely the warriors go down 3-0.
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                    • lakerboy
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                      • 04-02-09
                      • 94363

                      #150
                      Originally posted by thomorino
                      The NBA desperately wants a long series, if GS is down 2-0 they will get all the calls, its highly unlikely the warriors go down 3-0.
                      The NBA doesn't CONTROL this. The teams do. Didn't you say they would give Greek freak all the calls because they wanted him in the finals?
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                      • thomorino
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                        • 06-01-17
                        • 45842

                        #151
                        Originally posted by lakerboy

                        The NBA doesn't CONTROL this. The teams do. Didn't you say they would give Greek freak all the calls because they wanted him in the finals?
                        I bet Toronto all series, no one said the NBA controls anything or that its rigged, but the league can manipulate results and there was no question that Milwaukee benefitted from getting calls, it just wasn't enough, look at the 22 free throws Giannis shot in game 3 against Bosotn when the Celtics had complete control of game 3.

                        The league also helped Toronto in game 3 at home against Milwaukee to help lengthen the series with the questionable 6th foul on Giannis that fouled him out of the game, Toronto got calls in that game to lengthen the series even though Milwaukee got more calls overall.

                        NBA officials don't control anything, but they can slant calls and change momentum in games with questionable calls, and they do sometimes do that - the Warriors will get calls if they are down 0-2.
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                        • TheMoneyShot
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                          • 02-14-07
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by thomorino
                          NBA officials don't control anything, but they can slant calls and change momentum in games with questionable calls, and they do sometimes do that
                          100% correct. It's like anything in life.... these refs know majority of the players tendencies. It's even more certain when it's a Championship Final.

                          I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Toronto won all of their home games... and G.S. won all of their home games. But, I do get a feeling that the NBA wants Toronto to take 1 game at G.S. Even better for Toronto backers for the series.
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                          • goduke
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                            • 02-17-10
                            • 11580

                            #153
                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                            100% correct. It's like anything in life.... these refs know majority of the players tendencies. It's even more certain when it's a Championship Final.

                            I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Toronto won all of their home games... and G.S. won all of their home games. But, I do get a feeling that the NBA wants Toronto to take 1 game at G.S. Even better for Toronto backers for the series.
                            They would have to give golden state at plus money in the series if the do that. I would be shocked if that happened
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                            • lakerboy
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                              • 04-02-09
                              • 94363

                              #154
                              Originally posted by goduke
                              They would have to give golden state at plus money in the series if the do that. I would be shocked if that happened
                              You can take State-123 right now. You said they will win the next 3 games
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                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                • 02-14-07
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by goduke
                                They would have to give golden state at plus money in the series if the do that. I would be shocked if that happened
                                Vegas technically doesn't have to do anything. All they do is bait you into doing something stupid. G.S. series price is low enough for Public Money.

                                Earlier today... just for the record.... 5Dimes was giving away G.S. series price at +105
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                                • goduke
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                                  • 02-17-10
                                  • 11580

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                  You can take State-123 right now. You said they will win the next 3 games
                                  Correct I did say that and I’ve already bet both. Game 2 and series
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                                  • goduke
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                                    • 02-17-10
                                    • 11580

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                                    Vegas technically doesn't have to do anything. All they do is bait you into doing something stupid. G.S. series price is low enough for Public Money.

                                    Earlier today... just for the record.... 5Dimes was giving away G.S. series price at +105
                                    Im saying that Gstate is going to win so ideally Vegas doesn’t want to have to put Gstate at a dog for the series which they will have to do if they lose game 2. I don’t believe that’s happening.
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                                    • TheMoneyShot
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                                      • 02-14-07
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by goduke
                                      Im saying that Gstate is going to win so ideally Vegas doesn’t want to have to put Gstate at a dog for the series which they will have to do if they lose game 2. I don’t believe that’s happening.
                                      Gotcha. I see what you mean.
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                                      • Big Bear
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                                        • 11-01-11
                                        • 43253

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                        I know most of you will be on State. The reality is that the raptors are very good with the best player in the NBA playoffs. I totally agree the warriors have the pedigree and curry and Klay etc. The one thing that is most important to recognize is that Durant will not play. He is adamant to make State look bad. This is the series where State needs him and he won't show up. He isn't even around the team. This guy has a huge ego.

                                        Now to the series

                                        Tor is just simply the worst possible matchup for the warriors. Leonard is a monster that State has never faced in the finals. I know some people will mention James but kawhi is just different. James was predictable. Kawhi is clearly the best player in the league. Tor is a better team vs State that won't have Durant. The warriors got away winning with role guys vs junk like Portland but that won't happen in this round.

                                        Tor in 6+1200(1*)

                                        Tor in 7+600(3*)

                                        Raptors series price+240(4.5*)
                                        Why not sprinkle a little on the sweep????
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                                        • thechaoz
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                                          • 10-23-09
                                          • 12155

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by thechaoz
                                          JJ we gonna remember when I posted weeks so the warriors were champions?

                                          I won't let this thread die when it comes to fruition
                                          Remember who wins
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                                          • thechaoz
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-23-09
                                            • 12155

                                            #161
                                            Losers betting on these cucks
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                                            • cankid
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                                              • 08-22-08
                                              • 7209

                                              #162
                                              Raps sure missed many chances tonight to take control of the series, their Def kept them in it. If they lose the series tonight is certainly a game they will look back on as a missed opportunity.
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                                              • lakerboy
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                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94363

                                                #163
                                                Halfway there
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                                                • MrSink
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                                                  • 12-30-08
                                                  • 8087

                                                  #164
                                                  indeed
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                                                  • thomorino
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                                                    • 06-01-17
                                                    • 45842

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    Halfway there
                                                    This series feels like it goes 7 with the injuries, Warriors will get calls in game 4 and Durant should be back with Thompson.
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                                                    • goduke
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                                                      • 02-17-10
                                                      • 11580

                                                      #166
                                                      Still a loss no matter what way Toronto does it. 2 wins 3 wins but not 4. Make another thread
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                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94363

                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by goduke
                                                        Still a loss no matter what way Toronto does it. 2 wins 3 wins but not 4. Make another thread
                                                        You mad? Why don't you admit you were wrong on gsw winning game 3?
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                                                        • goduke
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                                                          • 02-17-10
                                                          • 11580

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                          You mad? Why don't you admit you were wrong on gsw winning game 3?
                                                          Refer to one of your 100 threads. You’ll see I already did that. Why can’t you make one thread? Why do you hide behind so many threads. Why do you make jinx threads? Is it so you can pretend to do well? Why aren’t you capable of truly being transparent?
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                                                          • goduke
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                                                            • 02-17-10
                                                            • 11580

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            You mad? Why don't you admit you were wrong on gsw winning game 3?
                                                            You can’t go toe to toe with me you have too much baggage on this site and I’m more than capable of putting it all out there so even new people know what you’re like. I’m not a rookie here. You can’t bury what you write over the last 5 years plus
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                                                            • play4win
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-23-11
                                                              • 2208

                                                              #170
                                                              no, it look like the warriors dynasty is over after game 3 but are they really let toronto win their 1st nba title in first try? i came to senses.
                                                              no team in major 4 sports have done that!
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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94363

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by goduke
                                                                You can’t go toe to toe with me you have too much baggage on this site and I’m more than capable of putting it all out there so even new people know what you’re like. I’m not a rookie here. You can’t bury what you write over the last 5 years plus
                                                                You driving backwards still? Get a new car bro
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                                                                • pimike
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                                                                  • 03-23-08
                                                                  • 37139

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Great thinking Toronto could even hang.


                                                                  Sweet thread!!! Hope they can finish!

                                                                  But it’s been fun and made money already!

                                                                  Thanks Laker!
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                                                                  • lakerboy
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                                                                    • 04-02-09
                                                                    • 94363

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by pimike
                                                                    Great thinking Toronto could even hang.


                                                                    Sweet thread!!! Hope they can finish!

                                                                    But it’s been fun and made money already!

                                                                    Thanks Laker!
                                                                    Let's get this Michael
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                                                                    • jjgold
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                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388189

                                                                      #174
                                                                      There will be an asterisk if Toronto wins do the injuries on GSW
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                                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                                        • 94363

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                        There will be an asterisk if Toronto wins do the injuries on GSW
                                                                        No asterisk when James lost with Delladummy?
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