Yanks+160/Houston-180 series line

[Infowars2833]

Lines are irrelevant at this point. Don’t dissect everything. Just go with your gut. Who do you see in the World Series for 2019? Ask yourself that.

[krk1030]

If you like Houston wait for game 2 cause yankees are taking the first game.

[spippen]

+170 reduced juice
Dead money? Really?
First off this Yankee offense are masters at working the count.
Secondly Yankee bats can match the Astros sticks man for man.
LeMahieu had a bona fide MVP season. Torres banged out 38 homers. Sanchez 33 homers. Judge 28 jacks and he missed 60 games. Gardner hit 27. DiDi hit 16 and he missed exactly half the season.
Cole or Verlander had better be pretty much mistake free because those Yankee bats know how to handle mistakes.

Yes, Houston has the better starters, NY has the better relievers.
Too call the Yankees dead money is pure ignorance.

Oh I’ll be more than happy to post a screen shot of my ticket if you want.
I’ve been shutting up posters on these boards for close to a decade now.

Yankees all the way!

[nyplayer33]

Because of the plus number i like nyy series

[Big Bear]

Yankees are great against average pitching

[2daBank]

yanks in 6

cole not avail til game 3

yanks should piss all over greinke game 1

They better, best chance to steal a game in Houston.

[2daBank]

good point...-185 is kinda steep though for a series price. would have to imagine you'll be better off betting Houston in game 1 and 2...

Damn right it steep, Mfers crazy saying they betting Stros because of that. Yanks still have best pen in playoffs. This series way closer than line suggest.

[2daBank]

id be worried about astros pitching, verlander was off last game, cole has been great but he had to go over 100 pitches twice and now will only be avaliable game 3 and game 7 so most likely yanks only seeing him once, and greinke and miley big question marks,

Mfers have so little faith in Miley they thru jv on 3 and fukked themselves for start of this series!!

[2daBank]

Of course you did bro. You tell me why the fuk the Yankees +170? What the fuk is that line about it’s realistic in the fact as saying anyone with a clue knows Yankees dead money GL

As if they know the outcome. Both the nl favs dropped last round.

[cincinnatikid513]

wheres the game 1 line

game is tommorow lets go put line up

yanks -120 guessing

[2daBank]

wheres the game 1 line

game is tommorow lets go put line up

yanks -120 guessing

I don’t even know who starting for yanks so tough for me to line it. Lol

[stevenash]

I don’t even know who starting for yanks so tough for me to line it. Lol

Greinke, and the word is Tanaka.

[2daBank]

Greinke, and the word is Tanaka.

Yea I knew greinke was starting. Hadn’t been able to find yanks starter., gm 1 huge for yanks, might be best chance to steal one.

[stevenash]

Boone just announced Tanaka game 1
Paxton game 2
Severino game 3

[2daBank]

Boone just announced Tanaka game 1
Paxton game 2
Severino game 3

They need to take gm1. Don’t like Paxton in this series.

[stevenash]

They need to take gm1. Don’t like Paxton in this series.

Astros can hit LHP, but Paxton is on a ten game winning streak in his last 11 outings. (One ND win)
He hasn’t lost a game since July.

[Mr KLC]

Bryan Abreu and Brad Peacock made the Astros' ALCS roster. Wade Miley did not.

[Mr KLC]

If Bryan Abreu appears in an ALCS game, it will be the eighth appearance of his major league career. He's thrown 8.2 major league innings.

[nyplayer33]

Tanaka post season era is stellar....yanks bats dont need best pitching.

[Bostongambler]

Houst takes series there, Mr. Damagio

[Mr KLC]

That Yankees went with 13 pitchers means, if possible, Boone will be even more aggressive with his staff. That Lyons, for example, was kept over Wade, suggests if Boone sees key moment early to try to get a LH-LH matchup v. Alvarez/Brantley he could turn to Lyons’ slider.

[2daBank]

Bryan Abreu and Brad Peacock made the Astros' ALCS roster. Wade Miley did not.

That interesting. So Stros going w 3 man rotation and a opener?

[Mr KLC]

That interesting. So Stros going w 3 man rotation and a opener?

Urquidy would start Game 4.

[2daBank]

Urquidy would start Game 4.

Arm talent over experience huh? Miley has had some decent postseason success hasn’t he? Sometimes I think it be good to mix in a soft tossing junk baller in between all those hard throwing studs.

[jjgold]

If You’re not hitting the Yankees you’re not gambling correctly

[ThaTopMoron]

wait for game 2

remember last year when it was hard to believe they kept finding ways to continue losing games to boston after game 1

who waited that liked astros?

you avoided the worst starter and can now bet ur astros with aces coming up games 2 and 3

unless you're too scared now

[stevenash]

who waited that liked astros?

you avoided the worst starter and can now bet ur astros with aces coming up games 2 and 3

unless you're too scared now

You always answer your own posts?

[ThaTopMoron]

You always answer your own posts?

astros burn you game 1 pal?

[2daBank]

astros burn you game 1 pal?

Nasher on bombers.

[nyplayer33]

Game 1...wow

[Goat Milk]

Hitting wins ships if ya'll don't know this by now you shouldn't even be betting

Big bats can freeze up in postseasons

Just look at the Tigers team. These guys had 5 cy young pitchers on their staff. Price, Verlander, Sherzer, Sanchez and Porcello. And they lost. Cause all their guys were HR hitters. Couldn't play any small ball.

Look at the Mets. They had Synderguard, Degram, Matz, etc. Got spanked by the Royals. Royals had a bullpen and some shitty starting pitching. They won on their bats.

Astros beat Dodgers on their bats. Dodgers could not hit the ball. Astros weren't pitching anything special in that world series. Dodgers hitters choked. Weak minded white guys.

The team with the better and clutcher hitters are gonna win this series.

You can pitch and play defense all you want but if you don't hit the ball you ain't winning any rings. Bumgarner did not shut down those teams he beat. Their hitters simply folded up shop.

What did I fukkin say about Cody Bellinger midway through the year?

Ya'll were like "MVP, he's a beast." I said he's choked before in b2b ws's. He a choker, that's it, it's proven. What happened in that Nats series? Laid a straight egg. Had nothing to do with pitching at all.

My point is proven and cemented with this last piece of proof.

[Goat Milk]

What happened to that elite raptors defense when Durant was on the court for 6 min? Straight dickslapped on their home court. That "elite d" that was shutting down the likes of Shawn Livingston looked like a college team suddenly.

Or what happened to that legendary Seahawks defense -- and it actually was legendary -- when Brady scored 2 unanswered tds in the 4th quarter to win the superbowl?

Miami vs the Mavs? Miami best D in the league by a mile. They could not score the ball in the 4th quarters of that series. They froze. Dallas sniped 3s from everywhere.

Offense > Defense in every sport.

But it's about clutch hitting and a mix of small and long ball. Like I said Tigers built a HR derby team with the best starting 5 pitchers basically in the last 50 year (4 of the 5 have won a cy young) and they got straight BITCHSLAPPED.

[stevenash]

Look at the Mets. They had Synderguard, Degram, Matz, etc. Got spanked by the Royals. Royals had a bullpen and some shitty starting pitching. They won on their bats.

I'm a KC Royals fan, the memories of 2015 I'll take to my grave.
The Royals that year were a anomaly.

As a team they walked the fewest times in the league, and struck out the fewest times in the league as well.
They didn't hit many homers, but were amongst the league leaders in OPS. (they hit a shitload of triples)
They were a keep the line moving contact team. (Just ask the Houston Astros) They played pressure offense, put the ball in play and use their speed to force the opposing defenses into errors.

No, KC did not have stellar starting pitching, in fact if they don't acquire Johnny Cueto in that mid season deal they never would have sniffed the championship. Ventura was ordinary, so was Duffy and Volquez.
Any yes the bullpen was a once in a lifetime three headed monster, the greatest 'pen since the Reds nasty boys (more on them later)

KC also had stellar defense, and defense also plays a very important role in championships as well. (more on that later too.)

Tm	R/G	PA	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	SB	BB	SO	BA	OBP	SLG	OPS	OPS+
ARI	4.44	6276	5649	720	1494	289	48	154	680	132	490	1312	0.264	0.324	0.414	0.738	97
ATL	3.54	6034	5420	573	1361	251	18	100	548	69	471	1107	0.251	0.314	0.359	0.674	87
BAL	4.4	6007	5485	713	1370	246	20	217	686	44	418	1331	0.25	0.307	0.421	0.728	97
BOS	4.62	6237	5640	748	1495	294	33	161	706	71	478	1148	0.265	0.325	0.415	0.74	97
CHC	4.25	6200	5491	689	1341	272	30	171	657	95	567	1518	0.244	0.321	0.398	0.719	98
CHW	3.84	6070	5533	622	1381	260	27	136	595	68	404	1231	0.25	0.306	0.38	0.686	91
CIN	3.95	6196	5571	640	1382	257	27	167	613	134	496	1255	0.248	0.312	0.394	0.706	92
CLE	4.16	6109	5439	669	1395	303	29	141	640	86	533	1157	0.256	0.325	0.401	0.725	93
COL	4.55	6071	5572	737	1479	274	49	186	702	97	388	1283	0.265	0.315	0.432	0.748	89
DET	4.28	6159	5605	689	1515	289	49	151	660	83	455	1259	0.27	0.328	0.42	0.748	105
HOU	4.5	6073	5459	729	1363	278	26	230	691	121	486	1392	0.25	0.315	0.437	0.752	107
KCR	4.47	6116	5575	724	1497	300	42	139	689	104	383	973	0.269	0.322	0.412	0.734	98
LAA	4.08	5990	5417	661	1331	243	21	176	621	52	435	1150	0.246	0.307	0.396	0.702	97
LAD	4.12	6090	5385	667	1346	263	26	187	638	59	563	1258	0.25	0.326	0.413	0.739	106
MIA	3.78	5988	5463	613	1420	236	40	120	575	112	375	1150	0.26	0.31	0.384	0.694	93
MIL	4.04	6024	5480	655	1378	274	34	145	624	84	412	1299	0.251	0.307	0.393	0.7	91
MIN	4.3	6017	5467	696	1349	277	44	156	661	70	439	1264	0.247	0.305	0.399	0.704	92
NYM	4.22	6145	5527	683	1351	295	17	177	654	51	488	1290	0.244	0.312	0.4	0.712	96
NYY	4.72	6268	5567	764	1397	272	19	212	737	63	554	1227	0.251	0.323	0.421	0.744	102
OAK	4.28	6171	5600	694	1405	277	46	146	661	78	475	1119	0.251	0.312	0.395	0.707	96
PHI	3.86	6053	5529	626	1374	272	37	130	586	88	387	1274	0.249	0.303	0.382	0.684	89
PIT	4.3	6285	5631	697	1462	292	27	140	661	98	461	1322	0.26	0.323	0.396	0.719	97
SDP	4.01	6019	5457	650	1324	260	36	148	623	82	426	1327	0.243	0.3	0.385	0.685	91
SEA	4.05	6131	5544	656	1379	262	22	198	624	69	478	1336	0.249	0.311	0.411	0.722	101
SFG	4.3	6153	5565	696	1486	288	39	136	663	93	457	1159	0.267	0.326	0.406	0.732	101
STL	3.99	6139	5484	647	1386	288	39	137	619	69	506	1267	0.253	0.321	0.394	0.716	95
TBR	3.98	6071	5485	644	1383	278	32	167	612	87	436	1310	0.252	0.314	0.406	0.72	100
TEX	4.64	6187	5511	751	1419	279	32	172	707	101	503	1233	0.257	0.325	0.413	0.739	98
TOR	5.5	6232	5509	891	1480	308	17	232	852	88	570	1151	0.269	0.34	0.457	0.797	115
WSN	4.34	6117	5428	703	1363	265	13	177	665	57	539	1344	0.251	0.321	0.403	0.724	96
LgAvg	4.25	6121	5516	688	1404	275	31	164	655	84	469	1248	0.254	0.317	0.405	0.721	97

Now, this is where we are in disagreement.
Good pitching while not always will beat good hitting.

You can use the 1954 Indians to support your argument.
That Indian rotation led by Bob Feller and Bob Lemon was considered the greatest staff of all time (up to that point)
They were supposed to steam roll the NY Giants in the World Series. Cleveland was 3:1 favorites I'm told. My father was a 30 year career Navy military engineer, he and his Navy buddies put up 300 to win 100 (big money back in the 50's)
What happened? Willie Mays made that famous over the shoulder catch and the 3 to 1 underdogs swept the Indians.

But for every one of those pitching doesn't always win examples I can site three examples where pitching wins championships to every one good hitting beats good pitching examples.

1990.
Oakland had the bash brothers, Canseco and McGuire and the rest.
The A's were 2:1 favorites to beat the Reds. Hell the pundits were all saying the Reds would be lucky to win one game.
What happened? The Nasty Boys of the Reds bullpen happened and swept the Oakland sluggers 4-0.

1963.
The perfect example.
LA Dodgers vs. NY Yankees.

The Yankees lineup was loaded. Stacked.
Mantle, Kubek, Richardson, Tresh, Yogi Berra.....
The Dodger lineup was anemic, their leading batter was Tommy Davis (.326) they only had one 20 home run slugger (Frank Howard), and speed merchant Maury Wills. Everyone else couldn't hit their weight.
So how did LA beat the mighty Yankees?
With 25-5 Sandy Koufax, 19 game winner Don Dysdale......
That Dodger team was all pitching, next to nothing on offense.
And the Yankees had two 20 game winners that year too, Whitey Ford was Cy Young good, and Jim Bounton.

It would be ignorant for me to say good pitching always beats good hitting,but it usuallydoes.

Earlier I mentioned defense wins too.
I've been preaching for ever that a good up the middle defense (C, 2B, SS, CF) makes a decent pitcher good, and a good pitcher great and conversely makes a decent pitcher poor.
I have several examples of this but I'll just cite two.

1984 Tigers.
Detroit opened up the season with an eye popping 35-5 record and never looked back wining the World Series easily.
Tigers had a very ordinary starting pitching staff. Milt Wilcox, Dan Petry, and Jack Morris (who wasn't ordinary but the rest of the staff was.
Wilcox won 17 games, Petry won 18 games. These pitchers don't win 17 and 18 games without great up the middle defense.
Parrish was the catcher, he won a gold glove, Trammel played SS and won a gold glove. Whittaker won a gold glove at 2B, and Chet Lemon in CF should have won a gold glove but was robbed.
Do you know how many runs those four on defense saved those pitchers?

My last point is the 1976 Reds.
Of course that team was stacked, but their staff wasn't loaded.
The Reds featured Johnny Bench behind the plate, Joe Morgan at 2B, Concepcion at SS.
All four of them won gold gloves.
Do you know how many runs they saved for Billingsley and Gary Nolan?

I'll await your reply.

[nyplayer33]

Back to astros yanks 2019

[2daBank]

Nasher you wasting your time. Just read goaty post and laugh at a guy who knows nothing about baseball! It funny enough when he tries at hoops and nfl but baseball he even more clueless!!!