Ultras (soccer)

[Karayilan9]

What do you guys think of Ultras in soccer? do the big US sports have Ultras? who are your top Ultra groups?

I think Ultras are important for the game off the pitch, it becomes more than a sport, its a passion and with some Ultras a way of life, some have alot of power in their cities, towns and some even call the shots with the team. There are some teams which must consult the Ultra leaders about any changes or new proposals. They bring a passion to the sport which I haven't seen in any other sports.

[RogueJuror]

lol

ultras in the US?

they are too busy stuffing their face with food and sipping their slurpees

[Jimmy0607]

[Karayilan9]

RogueJuror
The major US leagues sports events look like a fun day out, alot of the supporters look like they've gone for an entertainment event like the theatre.

There are soccer games that are like life or death for the fans, anybody whose been to the big derbies in Europe, like in Italy, Turkey, Greece etc or in South America like the Fla-Flu or the Grenal knows that its one of the craziest, passionate and emotional places your ever likely to be in, they really are incredible experiences and go deeper than just the game in alot of cases. These teams have been playing each other for over a century, there are deep social and cultural differences between what the clubs stand for.

[Squirrel]

The ultras who ive come across are all from Italy and Turkey, but I'd say the Turkish ones were the most passionate. The Italian "ultras" are all ****ing cowards who knife people and darent go to away European games since they wont have the Italian riot police to protect them.

[RogueJuror]

Argentinians are the rowdies i've come across.

[Jimmy0607]

[flyingillini]

I might be the first to start this in the US, it might happen in October when I go see Gonzo play the Galaxy. I am going to make that place erupt.. I am looking to have a huge print of Gonzo made and have all the fans spread it out over the whole stadium seats! Then we will light a galaxy one on fire as well chant Gonzo Gonzo Gonzo.

[Jimmy0607]

Soccer is our life in S. America , we live the sport like no one else in the world

[Karayilan9]

Squirrel
The ultras who ive come across are all from Italy and Turkey, but I'd say the Turkish ones were the most passionate. The Italian "ultras" are all ****ing cowards who knife people and darent go to away European games since they wont have the Italian riot police to protect them.

England used to have the biggest ultras, in one way all the money entering the game has been good but in another it broke the big fan groups. Now you have too many as Roy Keene put it, "prawn cocktail" fans who arn't the real English fans, alot of the utras for the big teams have been priced out by the extortionate ticket prices.

Still there is the Kop stand, Newcastle fans always give it their all, Man City fans are pretty solid and there is always Milwall there crazy as ever

The difference I think with some of the other European leagues is the way the teams are organised. The big ultra groups are involved in the higher levels of the club.

There are crazy ultra groups in Turkey, my heart is with Carsi of Besiktas who broke a world sound record in the Liverpool game but the Galatasaray UltraAslans are legendary, at one stage the club was almost bankrupt but the Ultras helped raise money to save the club, they are the club. The Galatasaray vs Fenerbahce derby is an incredible experience. There are also lesser known teams in the lower divisions such as Altay vs Goztepe, now it may not be well known but sh*t those games are insane.

This is a Carsi leader

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04dmcdOHsJA

Scenes from games

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFdPuXnORlo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyrug3zTxro&feature=related

[Jimmy0607]

Diego Lugano(hes uruguayan and played for fenerbache) said that people from turkey are one of the most passionate soccer fans in the world

[Karayilan9]

Jimmy
Diego Lugano(hes uruguayan and played for fenerbache) said that people from turkey are one of the most passionate soccer fans in the world

Lugano is a great defender and crazy guy, he fits in just fine with the team in the last big derby he was in the middle of the passion, was involved in a crazy fight which caused all the ultras to fight and then everyone got involved and almost bought the stadium down

[Jimmy0607]

I love the guy typical Uruguayan defender

[pavyracer]

US has no ultras. Going to a baseball game is like going to picnic. Basically they sit on the chairs with a drink and food in both hands. Actually they make announcements for fans to be quiet when the batter is in the box. So when the pitch is thrown you can't hear a pin drop. You yell something bad to the batter like his mother is a whore or something like that they kick you out of the stadium. It really sucks groing up a soccer fan going to a baseball game now and not being able to say anything. This is why I watch many games at home where I can yell at Cole Hamels and Johan Santana to **** off without being kicked out of the game.

[Jimmy0607]

Soccer is a way of life , baseball is a pastime

[Karayilan9]

Pavyracer
US has no ultras. Going to a baseball game is like going to picnic. Basically they sit on the chairs with a drink and food in both hands. Actually they make announcements for fans to be quiet when the batter is in the box. So when the pitch is thrown you can't hear a pin drop. You yell something bad to the batter like his mother is a whore or something like that they kick you out of the stadium. It really sucks groing up a soccer fan going to a baseball game now and not being able to say anything. This is why I watch many games at home where I can yell at Cole Hamels and Johan Santana to **** off without being kicked out of the game.

Damn, how do the supporters stand for that?

I think this is a major reason why team USA does well at home but poor on the road, there not used to having 60,000 hardcore supporters hurling abuse every time you touch the ball. If your not used to that I can see why it may be hard to cope with. Even the biggest teams suffer in performance because of the opposition fans in away games, it makes for a serious home stadium advantage especially in the big tournaments. This gives the supporters a role in the teams success and not just being mugs who can't get involved with their club.

[pavyracer]

Damn, how do the supporters stand for that?

I think this is a major reason why team USA does well at home but poor on the road, there not used to having 60,000 hardcore supporters hurling abuse every time you touch the ball. If your not used to that I can see why it may be hard to cope with. Even the biggest teams suffer in performance because of the opposition fans in away games, it makes for a serious home stadium advantage especially in the big tournaments. This gives the supporters a role in the teams success and not just being mugs who can't get involved with their club.

The Canadian hockey fans are the closest you will find that resemble ultras. They bang on the glass and abuse the opposing players. Sometimes they even throw beer at them. But american baseball, football or basketball fans are like nuns compared to ultras soccer fanatics. There is no home advantage in american sports in terms of fan intimidation of the opposing team.

[flyingillini]

Sbr ultra's

[Jimmy0607]

I agree with pavy

[pdx107]

Timbers army in portland is a good time

[SSLP]

Kara

You are a true soccer Ultra and a soccer prophet .. my respects

[Dark Horse]

You guys are forgetting college sports. Especially football. Not quite ultras, but only because of the chiquitas. Ultras are 99.9% men. Guys don't behave that way when there are pretty girls around.

In pro sports, the only thing that comes to my mind is Raider Nation.

[Karayilan9]

SSLP, LA ULTRA MORADA!

[TurkzZ]

Danny Dyer - Galatasaray Fenerbahce Ultras & Rivalry

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utM4bN2QIew
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiveFMkhuDE
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58jPo...e=channel_page
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o698d...e=channel_page
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNKwT...e=channel_page

[flyingillini]

At 1:37 starts to get real good

[flyingillini]

a good one by the crazy left wingers..

[flyingillini]

[Jimmy0607]

[flyingillini]

People think that crowds get crazy at certain stadiums/fields in the United States, none compare to what goes on in most Countries when it comes to Ultra's. Can you imagine sections at a Baseball game lighting and throwing flares? Ha, would be classic and make nation wide news...

[Ace_of_Spades]

Ultras are dangerous. You'd be insane to go to a match supporting your team in Italy, they are crazy. Get your legs slashed from the Ultras on there scooters.

[Jimmy0607]

[flyingillini]

Beitar has gotten themselves in a lot of trouble due to the racism and havoc their fans cause. Very intense games and crowds.. Last year when I was at a game against Hapoel you couldn't see the field for 15 minutes..

http://z6.invisionfree.com/UltrasTifosi/index.php?showtopic=2319

[Jimmy0607]

Flyer its crazy the atmosphere is just insane

[flyingillini]

One of my favorite ultra's right here. They are the enemy but I can tolerate them more than the left winger Hapoel.

[flyingillini]

Around 1:41 is classic, gets really good!