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  • Runeblade
    SBR MVP
    • 09-29-17
    • 2579

    #1
    How much can you win and still stay under the radar?
    I profit about 2-3K per week betting on soccer. Am I going to get limited or is that ok to stay under the radar. I can make more if I wish but choose to stay at this level.
  • JohnGalt2341
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 12-31-09
    • 9138

    #2
    Originally posted by Runeblade
    I profit about 2-3K per week betting on soccer. Am I going to get limited or is that ok to stay under the radar. I can make more if I wish but choose to stay at this level.
    How long have you been doing this? Approximately how much have you made in the last 52 weeks?
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    • Runeblade
      SBR MVP
      • 09-29-17
      • 2579

      #3
      I started a test phase only betting $10 a play about a month an a half ago to see if this system works. I hit at a 72% rate and built up a nice cushion to feed off of. So for the last month I just win $300-$400 per day and just stop.
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      • JohnGalt2341
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 12-31-09
        • 9138

        #4
        Originally posted by Runeblade
        I started a test phase only betting $10 a play about a month an a half ago to see if this system works. I hit at a 72% rate and built up a nice cushion to feed off of. So for the last month I just win $300-$400 per day and just stop.
        What type of sample size do you have for that 72% rate? And what was the average price you paid? What are YOUR prices that you are getting compared to the closing lines?
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388189

          #5
          Plenty of books so you’ll be fine you just go from book to book
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          • newton0038
            SBR MVP
            • 03-07-07
            • 2367

            #6
            If ur a volume bettor at somwhere like Pinny ur all good. U help adjust lines. There r 2 sides to be bet and both get bet, one wins one does not. Ur volume and larger bets adjust the line and juice
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            • allabout the $$$
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 04-17-10
              • 9837

              #7
              if you want to stay under the radar use multiple books and play opposite sides of other stuff so you are just eating the vig. if all you are doing is playing 1 sport and stopping after you hit for a few hundo everyday you are going to get noticed quicker
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              • Runeblade
                SBR MVP
                • 09-29-17
                • 2579

                #8
                Thanks for the info guys I really appreciate it.
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                • Wegmine9
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-23-19
                  • 130

                  #9
                  Sounds like a good problem to have, and easily manageable
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                  • JohnGalt2341
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-31-09
                    • 9138

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Runeblade
                    Thanks for the info guys I really appreciate it.
                    If you're not beating the closing lines you probably have nothing to worry about. I got a buddy of mine interested in Sportsbetting a few years back. He won something like 67 out of his first 100 bets. He had plans of quitting his job and doing this full time. I told him that his sample size wa FAR too small to know if he's any good. He didn't believe me and he even said that he thinks his actual percentage would be at least 75% and maybe higher. In his next 100 bets he won less than 30. Needless to say... he didn't quit his job.

                    If your sample size is less than 400 it's pretty hard to know how good you are. And even 400 is an incredibly small sample size.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388189

                      #11
                      never forget all books can click one button and see your betting stats even stats vs closers
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                      • Runeblade
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-29-17
                        • 2579

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                        If you're not beating the closing lines you probably have nothing to worry about. I got a buddy of mine interested in Sportsbetting a few years back. He won something like 67 out of his first 100 bets. He had plans of quitting his job and doing this full time. I told him that his sample size wa FAR too small to know if he's any good. He didn't believe me and he even said that he thinks his actual percentage would be at least 75% and maybe higher. In his next 100 bets he won less than 30. Needless to say... he didn't quit his job.

                        If your sample size is less than 400 it's pretty hard to know how good you are. And even 400 is an incredibly small sample size.
                        I'm currently 232-87 which is a good sample but I totally agree. My job is my bread and butter. I just wanted to supplement my income and I have done well. No way would I quit my job over sportsbetting, even if I won big money.

                        Thank you so much for your info.
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                        • funnyb25
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 07-09-09
                          • 39656

                          #13
                          Just keep pressing man. You will lose it all back anyways. Tops books know this so enjoy it while it lasts.
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                          • stackz125
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-03-16
                            • 6190

                            #14
                            Throw in a few parlays too. Book loves people who bet parlays.
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                            • jeffchitown
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-21-16
                              • 1849

                              #15
                              Umm parlays should be used as a tool for extended profit reaches. You don’t use parlays as main source of profit but definitely important. Whoever talked down parlays isn’t a real gambler. There are many obvious opportunities out there that have big payout with lower risk
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                              • gauchojake
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-17-10
                                • 34103

                                #16
                                runer gimme a fukkin winner pal
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                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-30-08
                                  • 81454

                                  #17
                                  Post your Plays here so that we can all get rich with you
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                                  • Runeblade
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-29-17
                                    • 2579

                                    #18
                                    Lol.... It involves live Betting Soccer. I can’t get into the details of my system but what I can tell you is that it goes against everything what people believe as far as sports betting is concerned.
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                                    • Smoke
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-09-09
                                      • 48111

                                      #19
                                      Did he win?
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                                      • Big Bear
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-01-11
                                        • 43253

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Runeblade
                                        I profit about 2-3K per week betting on soccer. Am I going to get limited or is that ok to stay under the radar. I can make more if I wish but choose to stay at this level.
                                        the guys that never post their plays always seem to be winning big money

                                        if you ask Pile Buck he will say he won 8-10K last week but yet he didn’t post a single play.
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                                        • Smoke
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-09-09
                                          • 48111

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Big Bear
                                          the guys that never post their plays always seem to be winning big money

                                          if you ask Pile Buck he will say he won 8-10K last week but yet he didn’t post a single play.
                                          Wow that's a lot of moolah bear
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                                          • Runeblade
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-29-17
                                            • 2579

                                            #22
                                            These are my wins last 7 days 41 wins

                                            3/8/209:33 AMWin - Single Under - L1H 0.5 Parma vs SPAL
                                            3/8/204:15 AMWin - Single Under - L1H 0.5 FC Sochi (YT) Youth vs Ural (YT) Youth
                                            3/7/2010:04 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 FC Würzburger Kickers vs SV Waldhof Mannheim
                                            3/7/208:54 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 SV Darmstadt 98 vs VfL Bochum 1848
                                            3/7/204:20 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 QNK Quang Nam U19 vs Da Nang U19
                                            3/6/2011:56 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Puebla vs Tigres UANL
                                            3/6/2011:24 PMWin - Single Under - L1H 0.5 LA Force vs Stumptown Athletic
                                            3/6/2010:54 PMWin - Single Under - L1H 0.5 Orange County Blues vs El Paso Locomotive
                                            3/6/2010:52 PMWin - Single Under - L1H 0.5 Puebla vs Tigres UANL
                                            3/6/209:48 PMWin - Single Under - L1H 0.5 Eastern Lions U20 vs Dandenong Thunder U20
                                            3/6/201:29 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Al Faisaly vs Al Ramtha
                                            3/6/2012:24 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 CS Mioveni vs Gloria Buzau
                                            3/6/208:54 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Zoo Kericho vs Sofapaka Nairobi
                                            3/6/207:53 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Hapoel Azor vs Agudat Sport Ashdod
                                            3/5/201:53 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Levski Sofia vs Ludogorets
                                            3/5/2012:54 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 USFAS Bamako vs US Bougouni
                                            3/5/2010:51 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Colombe Lobo vs APEJES Academy
                                            3/5/209:53 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Katwe United vs MYDA
                                            3/5/207:53 AMWin - Single Under 2.5 Croatia W vs Mexico W
                                            3/4/2012:52 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 FK Kukësi vs Vllaznia Shkodër
                                            3/4/209:57 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Al Jabalain vs Al Qadisiya
                                            3/4/208:30 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Kasimpasa U19 vs Galatasaray U193/
                                            3/209:58 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Al Ta'ee vs Al Thuqbah FC
                                            3/3/208:53 AMWin - Single Under 2.5 Mariupol U21 vs FC Vorskla Poltava (YT) Youth
                                            3/3/207:59 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Karpaty U21 vs PFC Olexandria U21
                                            3/2/204:54 PMWin - Single Under 2.5 Nueva Chicago vs Independiente Rivadavia
                                            3/2/201:51 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 APOEL Nikosia vs AC Omonia Nicosia
                                            3/2/209:46 AMWin - Single Under 2.5 Sokol Saratov vs FC Dolgoprudny
                                            3/2/207:49 AMWin - Single Under 2.5 FC Metalurgi Rustavi vs Samgurali
                                            3/1/206:52 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Pioneros de Cancún vs CAFESSA Jalisco
                                            3/1/205:27 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Tigres vs Atlético Huila
                                            3/1/203:50 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Anapolina vs Anapolis FC
                                            3/1/202:25 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 CD Calahorra vs SD Leioa
                                            3/1/201:57 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Cartagena vs Marbella
                                            3/1/201:25 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Paganese vs Teramo
                                            3/1/2012:55 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Salamanca CF UDS vs Guijuelo
                                            3/1/2012:53 PMWin - Single Under 0.5 Haro Deportivo vs Barakaldo
                                            3/1/2011:53 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 Deportivo La Coruña vs Lugo
                                            3/1/2011:22 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 FK Pohronie Ziar nad Hronom vs FK Senica
                                            3/1/209:57 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 PDRM vs Sabah
                                            3/1/209:55 AMWin - Single Under 0.5 FK Smederevo vs FK Sindelic Beograd

                                            These are my losses 5 Losses

                                            3/6/209:47 AMLoss - Single Under 0.5Platanias vs Karaiskakis
                                            3/5/2011:02 PMLoss - Single Montana -2.0 Northern Colorado @ Montana
                                            3/5/208:46 AMLoss - Single Under 0.5 Eding Sport vs Bamboutos FC
                                            3/2/206:51 AMLoss - Single Under 2.5 Chennaiyin II vs Mohammedan SC Kolkata
                                            3/1/204:17 PMLoss - Single Under 0.5 Iztapa vs Municipal
                                            Last edited by Runeblade; 03-08-20, 09:07 AM.
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                                            • Runeblade
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-29-17
                                              • 2579

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                              the guys that never post their plays always seem to be winning big money

                                              if you ask Pile Buck he will say he won 8-10K last week but yet he didn’t post a single play.
                                              I dont expect you to believe me but I hope that will suffice.
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                                              • PD77
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-11-09
                                                • 2381

                                                #24
                                                Looks like all unders. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.
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                                                • BuckyOne
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-02-15
                                                  • 2728

                                                  #25
                                                  I think payouts are the biggest red flag. The size of the payouts and frequency. They notice 10k payouts.

                                                  Most places think you will lose it back when you cool off. Don’t worry about the payouts - build up as much as you can at 20-30 places until they do limit you-small fry books like that do not have much influence market wise so let’s do all those first and then withdraw.

                                                  Actually, if the reason you are worried about getting noticed is because you have found a niche where lines are scientifically off. You really need to stay away from the big boys that come out first and make the lines.

                                                  I am worried you are not betting enough. Spread out to more places and win at least 10k a day from 30 places! Come on / get going here - everything changes - you may not do as well next season.
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                                                  • clockwise1965
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 10-01-13
                                                    • 6753

                                                    #26
                                                    Nice problem to have. Spread your bets over several books and you will have no issues.

                                                    Your win ratio of 70+% is not sustainable but as long as your making a profit. Good for you.
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                                                    • Runeblade
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-29-17
                                                      • 2579

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by PD77
                                                      Looks like all unders. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.

                                                      lol correct but its the timing and the correct line odds that is the key.
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                                                      • littlekona
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 11-19-15
                                                        • 5241

                                                        #28
                                                        can you please share the odds also that are associated with each bet? Most look to be pretty significant dogs to hit
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                                                        • JohnGalt2341
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-31-09
                                                          • 9138

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Runeblade
                                                          Lol.... It involves live Betting Soccer. I can’t get into the details of my system but what I can tell you is that it goes against everything what people believe as far as sports betting is concerned.
                                                          This could potentially be a great sign for you. Bill James changed the way people looked at baseball with this type of attitude. Without Bill James... the book/movie Moneyball would never have happened.

                                                          Your record looks incredibly impressive even for that sample size. But what's the average price you are paying? If it's -110... then that's pretty amazing.
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                                                          • PD77
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 12-11-09
                                                            • 2381

                                                            #30
                                                            There are tons of threads here at SBR about getting booted, some by losing players, some by winning players. The one consistency with all of them was beating the closing line. If the majority of your winnings are coming from live betting then the book will probably just limit you there or block it completely.
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                                                            • im over here now
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 11-27-19
                                                              • 219

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                              the guys that never post their plays always seem to be winning big money

                                                              if you ask Pile Buck he will say he won 8-10K last week but yet he didn’t post a single play.
                                                              Lots of people like this on this forum..

                                                              Crusherr claims monthly wins of 50k.. He also claims he washes the bitcoin thru his poker buddies for 1%... Morale of post.. Some people just love to be cool on the internet
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                                                              • BigdaddyQH
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-13-09
                                                                • 19530

                                                                #32
                                                                If what you say is true (and that is exceedingly questionable) the books already know about you. Anyone dumb enough to post what you claim to have done and think that no one but the gullible people in here are the only ones to read it soon get what they deserve. How much have you cashed out? Here is a little secret that all of you alleged winning gamblers fail to understand. If you have NOT cashed out, you have not won crap! The ONLY time you can claim to be a winner is when you can show people the money in a legitimate bank account, not is some off shore shop that can take it away from you whenever they want.
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                                                                • lakerboy
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                                  • 94363

                                                                  #33
                                                                  If you are winning at live betting they will make it harder and harder for you. Live betting is a drug and eventually the drug will overtake you. You need to increase amounts ASAP and start getting paid. The worst thing gamblers do when winning is not upping the amount. Hot streaks are great and gamblers who don't increase the amount cool off and then increase the amount when they start losing and give it all back.
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                                                                  • funnyb25
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 07-09-09
                                                                    • 39656

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                    If you are winning at live betting they will make it harder and harder for you. Live betting is a drug and eventually the drug will overtake you. You need to increase amounts ASAP and start getting paid. The worst thing gamblers do when winning is not upping the amount. Hot streaks are great and gamblers who don't increase the amount cool off and then increase the amount when they start losing and give it all back.
                                                                    Good post Laker
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                                                                    • DroopyDog
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-03-16
                                                                      • 1255

                                                                      #35
                                                                      use bitcoin books like stake, anonymous and high live limits, you wont be noticed.
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