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  • Grits n' Gravy
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    • 06-10-10
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    #71
    Originally posted by mcmc
    That is hard to imagine.

    But I do think the more readily the COVID 19 tests become available to the general public like drive thru testing etc. and quicker results ( I believe they are 45 min diagnosis now) then we can determine who has the virus and who doesn’t on mass scale. Then the sooner a definitive isolation can take place for those with the virus.
    Originally posted by Sam Odom


    More testing = death rate (%) decreases
    Agree 100%

    Football will be impacted in some way no matter what. The offseason will be too short for many teams and players. Getting rookies and free agents acclimated will be challenging as well.

    Kirk seems a bit premature here but maybe espn should take him up on it and furlough him since there will be no games to call. Bet he changes tune real quick.
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    • RudyRuetigger
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      • 08-24-10
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      #72
      kirk has no money invested in football and probably has a contract with espn

      the only thing he cares about is building his brand (HIMSELF)

      people should tell him to go fukk himself
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      • Vikings2
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        #73
        Kirk has a big elevated ego. Thinks he knows everything.
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        • pavyracer
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          #74
          Originally posted by homie1975
          They can lift weights at home in their garage, backyard, living room etc.

          It's the hitting with pads on that they need to get into football shape. That's what is going to get pushed back months and jeopardizes the season.
          How many college players live in their own houses equipped with all the machines required to lift weights?
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          • homie1975
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            • 12-24-13
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            #75
            Originally posted by Vikings2
            Kirk has a big elevated ego. Thinks he knows everything.
            I've been watching him for 25 years. Very cerebral and thoughtful guy. Intelligent. Forward thinking.
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            • RudyRuetigger
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              #76
              Originally posted by homie1975
              I've been watching him for 25 years. Very cerebral and thoughtful guy. Intelligent. Forward thinking.
              stop
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              • homie1975
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                • 12-24-13
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                #77
                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                stop
                Tremendous guy. Role model even if he did cheat on his wife.
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                • Art Vandelay
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by homie1975
                  Tremendous guy. Role model even if he did cheat on his wife.
                  Was that with Melissa Stark?
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                  • pabonaparte
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                    • 01-21-16
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                    Unfortunately

                    He's spot on

                    There's no way sports will be played before there is a vaccine. NO WAY

                    Once testing becomes mainstream and hospital ER's work at 70% capacity (not 270%), there is no reason fans shouldn't attend games as usual. If you then go and visit your elderly parents or immunocompromised friend and infect them, it's on you. Teams should allow fans to cancel tickets and get refunds easily, but all it will take to pack NFL stadiums is have good quality games and maybe drop admission prices 10-15% for the upcoming season.

                    Why do you think Trump is signing the 2 trillion help bill? To have the country on a lockdown for 3 more years?
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                    • homie1975
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                      • 12-24-13
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                      #80
                      He signed the bill to save the economy namely small to medium businesses. It wasn't to bring back sports
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                      • RudyRuetigger
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                        #81
                        homie just stop man


                        who are you kidding?

                        you are a democrat, i can plan out your life if you say your age....45 or 44?
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
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                          #82
                          Rudy good one
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                          • pabonaparte
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by homie1975
                            He signed the bill to save the economy namely small to medium businesses. It wasn't to bring back sports
                            Yes, and the revived economy is exactly why leagues will compete with each other even more than usually. This is a new world, a fresh slate and a chance to draw fans from another sport. Incredible business opportunities ahead. Once Adam Silver figures out how to play NBA games in a bubble, leagues will do anything necessary to follow suit. Even if it means playing a season that's less profitable than usual.
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                            • jjgold
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                              #84
                              Leagues have to play or all will fold
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                              • manny24
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                                • 10-22-07
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                                #85
                                need to wrap this pandemic up so AB can sign with Tampa and the world can be at peace
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                                • jjgold
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by manny24
                                  need to wrap this pandemic up so AB can sign with Tampa and the world can be at peace
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                                  • Roger T. Bannon
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                                    • 06-28-18
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Leagues have to play or all will fold
                                    The leagues are owned by billionaires. They can hold out forever. Just means the players will make less when they come back.
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                                    • milwaukee mike
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                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                      Wow. Just read an article with projections from an virus expert and he said there was basically no way seasons would be played with fans but probably could be played without fans. Even when the unlock happens, social distancing will still be a requirement so restaurants and bars will only have half as many people. Projection for vaccine is no sooner than spring of next year.
                                      let's not confuse "experts" with fearmongers... don't forget all those terrorism experts that said we would all be blown up by terrorists... and those global warming experts that said the planet wouldn't even exist at this point
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                                      • homie1975
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                                        • 12-24-13
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by manny24
                                        need to wrap this pandemic up so AB can sign with Tampa and the world can be at peace
                                        Except tampa and arians already said no the motherfukking POS
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                                        • Roger T. Bannon
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                          let's not confuse "experts" with fearmongers... don't forget all those terrorism experts that said we would all be blown up by terrorists... and those global warming experts that said the planet wouldn't even exist at this point
                                          How right have you been so far?

                                          Virginia now extended lockdown to June 10. They are just head of the curve. After lockdown, you still have to be spread out. No crowds. Seasons are definitely in jeopardy now.
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                                          • clockwise1965
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                                            #91
                                            I think all sports will be postponed this season.
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                                            • lonegambler23
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                                              #92
                                              "i didn't know he got his college degree in the medical field at ohio st"- amal shah
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                                              • homie1975
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                                                • 12-24-13
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                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by lonegambler23
                                                "i didn't know he got his college degree in the medical field at ohio st"- amal shah
                                                only takes common sense not a medical degree. anything you want or need to know about COVID 19 is available through several consumer choices. take your pick.
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                  Rudy good one
                                                  great post jj

                                                  my last 50k were as well though
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                                                  • unusialsusp5
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by mcmc
                                                    That is hard to imagine.

                                                    But I do think the more readily the COVID 19 tests become available to the general public like drive thru testing etc. and quicker results ( I believe they are 45 min diagnosis now) then we can determine who has the virus and who doesn’t on mass scale. Then the sooner a definitive isolation can take place for those with the virus.
                                                    the tests are unreliable. people giving them have not been trained. they inflate the positive results to get maximum federal funding. will end up with 10% more deaths than in a regular flu season with this rookie virus. not a reason to shut down the country beyond may 1.
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                                                    • jjgold
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                                                      #96
                                                      +130 there is football
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                                                      • Bcatswin
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                                                        • 12-21-10
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                                                        #97
                                                        Nothing is gonna be on guys, better of just accepting it.
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                                                        • G Anon Dropout
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                                                          Was that with Melissa Stark?
                                                          Erin Andrews when she was at ESPN.
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                                                          • Enkhbat
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                                                            #99
                                                            I think NFL season will be played, likely behind closed doors.
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
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                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by Enkhbat
                                                              I think NFL season will be played, likely behind closed doors.
                                                              most sports get played there before the game starts anyway

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                                                              • hawkwind
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                                                                #101
                                                                A loser from Ohio State, one voice, one opinion keep it to yourself herbie the bug
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                                                                • homie1975
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                                                                  • 12-24-13
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                  most sports get played there before the game starts anyway

                                                                  Ok that was funny, Rudy
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                                                                  • mezmurized2
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                                                                    • 12-02-19
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                                                    Wow. Just read an article with projections from an virus expert and he said there was basically no way seasons would be played with fans but probably could be played without fans. Even when the unlock happens, social distancing will still be a requirement so restaurants and bars will only have half as many people. Projection for vaccine is no sooner than spring of next year.
                                                                    The experts say this is coming back in the fall. So even if you beat corona and unlock and start, there has to be a 33% chance that the whole season gets cancelled anyway.
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                                                                    As I posted in another thread, one has to wonder HOW sports could (will?) survive without fans in attendance (ie.gametime revenues from all sources like gate receipts, food & bev, parking, advertising)
                                                                    All we can do now is speculate, but it's at least possible the pros in every major sport can survive where television or streaming rights will comprise most of their revenues. They'll take a significant hit mind you, but it's theoretically possible without fans. Currently TV rights contributes about 65%+ of their gross revenues.
                                                                    But conversely I don't see how most US college football/basketball could do it.
                                                                    In a large number of universities/colleges the revenues generated from gametime revenues fund huge portions of not only their athletic programs but in some cases the university itself! They'll take massive hits, particularly the much more numerous smaller and mid-size institutions who don't get big money from tv/streaming rights!!
                                                                    .
                                                                    It seems reasonable to surmise that with so many people cautious of crowds going forward, not just today but still in significant numbers for the next 12-18 months - whilst at the same time trying to recover from near economic devastation throughout north america (ie. rising & cripling debts, reduced savings, business bankruptcies (possibly including many Oil companies!!), skyrocketing unemployment) - even if they try to start the leagues the seats will be largely empty (huge losses in revenues!). AND with money being so much tighter all around, advertising revenues even for TV /streaming rights will be significantly impacted.
                                                                    Very hard decisions about program viability may be forced.
                                                                    Even that assumes it would be completely safe for athletes to compete face-to-face WITHOUT a vaccine.

                                                                    Read: "The timetable for a coronavirus vaccine is 18 months!"
                                                                    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/us/co...nvs/index.html
                                                                    Last edited by mezmurized2; 03-31-20, 06:03 PM.
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                                                                    • mezmurized2
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                      Agree 100%

                                                                      Football will be impacted in some way no matter what. The offseason will be too short for many teams and players. Getting rookies and free agents acclimated will be challenging as well.

                                                                      Kirk seems a bit premature here but maybe espn should take him up on it and furlough him since there will be no games to call. Bet he changes tune real quick.
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                                                                      No disrespect intended to either above OPs,
                                                                      but one has to wonder how much effect COVID-19 testing will actually achieve in the long-term.
                                                                      Think about it....at this point we do NOT know if this virus is like the measels (ie. once innoculated you are immune) or if it has the potential to re-infect!
                                                                      Secondly, if we all tested negative TODAY (expensive tests remember) that would seem great, but what about tomorrow or next week after we return from the grocery store, workplace, church, bank, gas station, or team practice ?!?!
                                                                      This same reasoning applies to athletes, all game officials, facility staff, and media production crews.
                                                                      Now, IF we learn this virus cannot re-infect - and then only after everyone gets innoculated with a working vaccine, then I submit a reasonable facsimile of sports and gambling might proceed somewhat close to normal.

                                                                      To my thinking, this all boils down to getting that vaccine before we can truly return to normal (notwithstanding the social and economic impacts between now and then)
                                                                      Coronaviruses like SARS and MERS are already known to live on any surface for up to 9 days, making a vaccine even more important.
                                                                      But of course, major pro leagues are indeed going to at least attempt to resume without the vaccine, despite the risks, and the very real possibility of having to shutdown again in mid-season.
                                                                      I do however, fear for college athletics.

                                                                      READ:

                                                                      Last edited by mezmurized2; 03-31-20, 06:05 PM. Reason: added link to article
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                                                                      • jjgold
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Now he might be right
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