Kirk Herbstreit Says NFL And NCAA Football Should Be Postponed

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  • homie1975
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    • 12-24-13
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    #141
    Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
    NFL said they plan on playing w fans

    Can't speak for college but they prob follow suit
    if they want to play with fans then preseason will NOT start the first week of August. NO WAY.
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    • johnnyvegas13
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      • 05-21-15
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      #142
      Originally posted by homie1975
      if they want to play with fans then preseason will NOT start the first week of August. NO WAY.
      I ment reg season

      Preseason prob will b played w o fans or cancelled all together to let camp run long
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      • StackinGreen
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        • 10-09-10
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        #143
        Originally posted by homie1975
        Stacker
        It's a nice story but you've got entire countries around the world and states in the USA all on basically a lockdown.

        Everyone is stupid and guys like u are right?

        Come on man. You can't be serious (my hands on my hips like McEnroe saying this)
        Originally posted by homie1975
        No one listen to Dr Fauci and Dr Birx.

        Listen to Stacker instead.
        You can do what you want, but these are both logical fallacies (I can tell you what type but it's not worth the time). I am a physician, and there is another wrinkle you obviously haven't perceived, that of governments, corporate, CYA, overly conservative --- that's their game. I'm surprised you keep coming up with more stuff and think I'm the one who hasn't thought about this much. Again, please, just pay attention to the argument. The rest is distraction, which is why all the sheeple get spoonfed fear from the media.
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
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          #144
          They will play
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          • StackinGreen
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            • 10-09-10
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            #145
            Originally posted by mezmurized2
            StackinGreen,
            I see the point you are making.
            Well written too. You obviously put some thought and time into it.
            But I'll note a couple things worthy of discussion in what you wrote....and this is meant respectfully and in the spirit of "friendly" debate/discussion...
            Mez, thanks for the reply.

            You said
            The mortality rate for COVID-19 is waaaay higher than the common flu
            The answer is no, you are incorrect. It will very likely be lower, and at worst, will be the same. Since this premise is wrong, most of the rest of your post and conclusions are inaccurate as well. Why is this the case? Whole countries have done testing (Iceland, South Korea, etc), we have isolated cruise ships, and most of these show CFR of 0.5%. And even those countries don't count asymptomatic people who are "infected" which means we are drastically exaggerating the death rate (deaths / cases). The denominator there is definitely way bigger, and in fact, it can only be bigger by definition. So there is your bias and the truth will come out (we who have looked closely at the data already know this). Meanwhile, the media and propaganda throws out terms like (Deaths, 100k!) or "cases" which again mean nothing in themselves except for news flashes meant to scare you. Again, far more people died from many other diseases or risk related behaviors than from this, and it's not even close.

            Planning for the worst is of course an individual's option, but it doesn't make it a good option. And this isn't your action that is all on you and you only have skin in the game for. You are (it seems) supporting a shut down of almost (80%?) the entire economy. That's not planning for the worst, that's stupid. And for an overwhelming majority of people, it is extremely harmful and won't be fixed. And again, for a virus not that significantly different (or better!) than what we deal with annually.
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            • pavyracer
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              • 04-12-07
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              #146
              It's up to the school presidents. If the presidents don't open schools for students there would be no sports.

              Trump said today that we will be counting bodies until August. There is long way to go from 4,000 to 240,000 dead bodies that Trump is predicting.
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              • StackinGreen
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                • 10-09-10
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                #147
                Originally posted by jjgold
                They will play
                He has spoken. I wonder if JJ believes that I am what I am

                not popeye, JJ
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                • StackinGreen
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                  • 10-09-10
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  It's up to the school presidents. If the presidents don't open schools for students there would be no sports.

                  Trump said today that we will be counting bodies until August. There is long way to go from 4,000 to 240,000 dead bodies that Trump is predicting.
                  He knows it'll be just fine and then will claim ("We did such a great job!") when the count is small.

                  100,000s die every year from the flu. Sheesh, 80k died in the USA in 2017. No one does his homework on this so I have to be here so others listen to reason and not propaganda. It is hard, people always want to use their primitive brain and not take the time and effort. Please listen, this is about freedom vs. the world's control, and it won't end here. There is more coming down the pike now that they've seen the lemmings line up so faithfully.
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                  • Booya711
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                    • 12-20-11
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by StackinGreen
                    He knows it'll be just fine and then will claim ("We did such a great job!") when the count is small.

                    100,000s die every year from the flu. Sheesh, 80k died in the USA in 2017. No one does his homework on this so I have to be here so others listen to reason and not propaganda. It is hard, people always want to use their primitive brain and not take the time and effort. Please listen, this is about freedom vs. the world's control, and it won't end here. There is more coming down the pike now that they've seen the lemmings line up so faithfully.
                    You can’t talk sense to these sheep like Paulapanic....this whole thing is overblown AF...just a political war now
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                    • manny24
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                      • 10-22-07
                      • 20046

                      #150
                      Stackin you have too many facts and are making too much sense

                      we are here to criticize the response and for highly inflated numbers of people with sniffles

                      please stand down
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                      • homie1975
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                        • 12-24-13
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by StackinGreen
                        He knows it'll be just fine and then will claim ("We did such a great job!") when the count is small.

                        100,000s die every year from the flu. Sheesh, 80k died in the USA in 2017. No one does his homework on this so I have to be here so others listen to reason and not propaganda. It is hard, people always want to use their primitive brain and not take the time and effort. Please listen, this is about freedom vs. the world's control, and it won't end here. There is more coming down the pike now that they've seen the lemmings line up so faithfully.
                        mostly it's elderly people over the age of 75 who get pneumonia which started from the flu. the flu does not kill 200K a year in the USA. one year, the 2016/17 season, it killed 80K, but that was an aberration. it is typically 20K to 50K per year. the true cause of death is pneumonia which developed from the flu. the flu did not kill them - something worse did.

                        but get this: COVID-19 is hospitalizing and killing people under the age of 60 !!

                        when was the last time you heard of someone being hospitalized by the Flu who was under the age of 60 ???

                        and put on a respirator of which only 20% survive and 80% die !!!!!!

                        flu vs covid 19 is apples and oranges. get educated. free your mind. become someone bigger and better and smarter than you are.

                        most importantly: wake up !!!!
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                        • Roger T. Bannon
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                          • 06-28-18
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                          #152
                          So now seeing speculation that the NCAA will play a fall/winter schedule of games and then a spring schedule of games and have a 9-game schedule. This seems pretty likely and probably pretty successful.
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                          • homie1975
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                            • 12-24-13
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                            So now seeing speculation that the NCAA will play a fall/winter schedule of games and then a spring schedule of games and have a 9-game schedule. This seems pretty likely and probably pretty successful.
                            NCAA football play in the spring? whaaaaaaa

                            so in the fall if it's a 9 game sched then it starts in OCT like i predicted, Yes?
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                            • Roger T. Bannon
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                              • 06-28-18
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by homie1975
                              NCAA football play in the spring? whaaaaaaa

                              so in the fall if it's a 9 game sched then it starts in OCT like i predicted, Yes?
                              Not sure. I was not interested enough to follow but would basically push the season into March which is also something the NFL would probably do. Something like a split season or maybe just push the whole thing back to Feb/March.
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                              • homie1975
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by Roger T. Bannon
                                Not sure. I was not interested enough to follow but would basically push the season into March which is also something the NFL would probably do. Something like a split season or maybe just push the whole thing back to Feb/March.
                                okay, if CFB is played in the spring then that affects College Hoops etc.

                                i googled it but cannot find anything. what is your source?
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                                • Roger T. Bannon
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by homie1975
                                  okay, if CFB is played in the spring then that affects College Hoops etc.

                                  i googled it but cannot find anything. what is your source?
                                  They don't care anything about basketball. They can play them both at the same time.

                                  I saw it on Twitter somewhere and did not look into it. They want to allow players to come back and play games in empty stadiums but do not think that is doable so will push back the season until the spring and play the playoffs in May.
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                                  • carolinakid
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                                    • 01-12-11
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                                    #157
                                    i dont think we will see college football in the year 2020 at all.
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                                    • packerd_00
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                                      • 05-22-13
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                                      #158
                                      Who the hell's this clown, why not cancel two, thee years in advance while your'e at it.
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                                      • packerd_00
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                                        • 05-22-13
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by Art Vandelay
                                        A few weeks ago posters here were saying sports would be shut down for 1 year. Sounded crazy at the time, now maybe not...
                                        So what are we going to do this every time, it's a f@cking joke mate. We will end up like f@ckin China if we keep this up.
                                        Last edited by packerd_00; 04-03-20, 11:46 AM.
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                                        • homie1975
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                                          • 12-24-13
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                                          #160
                                          Packerd
                                          he is simply calling it as he sees it, man

                                          sorry but no blue turf of Boise until OCT at the earliest, i am afraid
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                                          • packerd_00
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                                            • 05-22-13
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by homie1975
                                            Packerd
                                            he is simply calling it as he sees it, man

                                            sorry but no blue turf of Boise until OCT at the earliest, i am afraid
                                            Cant be cancelling things so far in advance. We were told June, straight up.
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                                            • lakerboy
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                                              • 04-02-09
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                                              #162
                                              Originally posted by packerd_00
                                              Cant be cancelling things so far in advance. We were told June, straight up.
                                              EPL? What's the decision?
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                                              • homie1975
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                                                • 12-24-13
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                Cant be cancelling things so far in advance. We were told June, straight up.
                                                you don't understand. there are so many logistical things. getting the players and coaches together in one room for meetings and then getting them enough weight room time and practice time, etc. all this while trying to make sure that all players and coaches will be tested and pass those as negative

                                                Herbstreit and the rest of us are guessing here and quite frankly just using good old fashioned common sense.

                                                i bet you did not think the NBA, NHL, MLB and march madness would all be suspended/canceled, did you???
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                                                • lakerboy
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                                                  • 04-02-09
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                                                  #164
                                                  The NFL doctor was pretty clear today. Until society returns to normal the NFL isn't playing.
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                                                  • Yulia74
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                                                    • 08-28-18
                                                    • 1907

                                                    #165
                                                    Kirk Herbstreit should sit on his hands for a while?
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                                                    • homie1975
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                                                      • 12-24-13
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                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                      The NFL doctor was pretty clear today. Until society returns to normal the NFL isn't playing.
                                                      link?
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                                                      • packerd_00
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                                                        • 05-22-13
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                                                        #167
                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                        EPL? What's the decision?
                                                        As far as I know it's still a go,haven't heard anything different.
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                                                        • packerd_00
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                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                                          you don't understand. there are so many logistical things. getting the players and coaches together in one room for meetings and then getting them enough weight room time and practice time, etc. all this while trying to make sure that all players and coaches will be tested and pass those as negative

                                                          Herbstreit and the rest of us are guessing here and quite frankly just using good old fashioned common sense.

                                                          i bet you did not think the NBA, NHL, MLB and march madness would all be suspended/canceled, did you???
                                                          How long do you expect this to last, It's already getting ridiculous enough as it is. You thought I was kidding when I said that they might cancel events years in advance, but who's to say they wont.

                                                          You see people in the beer store standing outside 12 feet apart, dont go out then if your'e that scared.
                                                          Last edited by packerd_00; 04-03-20, 01:05 PM.
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                                                          • lakerboy
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                                                            • 04-02-09
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                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by homie1975
                                                            link?
                                                            Dr. Allen Sills told NFL.com on Thursday that several conditions must be met for the NFL to start its season on time come September.
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                                                            • lakerboy
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                                                              • 04-02-09
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                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                              As far as I know it's still a go,haven't heard anything different.
                                                              They are asking players to take a 30% paycut
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                                                              • packerd_00
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                                                                • 05-22-13
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                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                They are asking players to take a 30% paycut
                                                                Whoa, big piece of the pie, although players might have to except it. I dont reckon it's going to be any different in Serie A or Spanish La Liga.
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                                                                • homie1975
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                                                                  • 12-24-13
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  dabo swinney "zero doubt" college football returns on time and will have "packed stadiums"


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                                                                  • mezmurized2
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                                                                    • 12-02-19
                                                                    • 1232

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                    you don't need to have a friend who works in the league to tell you that. we ALL know that. money is everything.

                                                                    true story: i have a buddy from childhood who is now an asst GM for a MLB franchise and i told him on Monday 3/9 that his season is most likely going to be suspended. he was not so sure. three days later on Thur 3/12 it got suspended. he works IN baseball but i knew more than him.
                                                                    all it takes some good ole' common sense.
                                                                    -------
                                                                    Well said.
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                                                                    • mezmurized2
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                                                                      • 12-02-19
                                                                      • 1232

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally Posted by seaborneq I want both to play without fans. We will be

                                                                      used to not seeing or being around each other by then. Just use the same background they use when trying to make everyone watching the Boca Roton bowl think it’s a big bowl game when no one is really there or gives a damn.
                                                                      Originally posted by johnnyvegas13
                                                                      NFL said they plan on playing w fans

                                                                      Can't speak for college but they prob follow suit
                                                                      -----------
                                                                      I agree with both above comments.
                                                                      Seems logical both leagues will at least TRY to have a season.

                                                                      But as I opined in a couple previous posts,
                                                                      without a vaccine first, what happens after several players
                                                                      on multiple different teams gets infected but initially doesn't know he's infectious?!
                                                                      It can take up to 10+ days for symptoms to occur.
                                                                      By then he/they may have inadvertently infected dozens of others,
                                                                      and many of THOSE won't know they have it for up to 10+ days,
                                                                      whilst also spreading it around.
                                                                      Then they all begin getting sick. Bad sick. Bedridden. Or worse...
                                                                      Keep this in mind when they begin the seasons - with or w/o fans in the seats.

                                                                      Test all athletes first, you say ?! And isolate those who are positive?!
                                                                      OK, sure.
                                                                      But a test doesn't prevent the "tested-healthy ones" from contracting it the next day!
                                                                      Or the day after, or during the next game!
                                                                      A test isn't a vaccine! It just means that player has not yet contracted the virus.
                                                                      Not yet.
                                                                      But that can occur at any time.

                                                                      If I was a bettin' man, I would take a bet ON "the NFL WILL try to begin in 2020" for $1,000
                                                                      And -- still assuming no working vaccine during season -- I would take another bet
                                                                      that they "will be forced to prematurely end the season" for $5,000
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                                                                      • StackinGreen
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                                                                        • 10-09-10
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                        mostly it's elderly people over the age of 75 who get pneumonia which started from the flu. the flu does not kill 200K a year in the USA. one year, the 2016/17 season, it killed 80K, but that was an aberration. it is typically 20K to 50K per year. the true cause of death is pneumonia which developed from the flu. the flu did not kill them - something worse did.
                                                                        1) in italy nearly every person who got this was old, the median age of death is 80
                                                                        2) This won't, and hasn't, killed 200k, which in and of itself means nothing, which I have already stated (thousands of other things kill far more people per year weirdly you won't talk about those)
                                                                        3) the true cause of death for covid isn't covid either, for most people. it's that they are on death's door with multiple chronic diseases thus they get covid otherwise they'd beat it like most healthy people (and just like the flu)

                                                                        but get this: COVID-19 is hospitalizing and killing people under the age of 60 !!
                                                                        have you ever looked at a CDC report? The flu supposedly does this too, every year.

                                                                        when was the last time you heard of someone being hospitalized by the Flu who was under the age of 60 ???
                                                                        every year, as above, but I don't take that very seriously because no truly healthy person would be, that's why you are so flummoxed

                                                                        and put on a respirator of which only 20% survive and 80% die !!!!!!
                                                                        where did you make this up, irrelevant point anyway

                                                                        flu vs covid 19 is apples and oranges. get educated. free your mind. become someone bigger and better and smarter than you are.
                                                                        Read a CDC report, and re-read what I just posted 5 more times.

                                                                        CNN ain't cuttin' it for you. NPR either.

                                                                        I guess I'll go back to medical school 5 more times for fun, to be "smarter"
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