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  • Fieldysnuts44
    SBR MVP
    • 10-02-08
    • 1592

    #1
    Madden Simulations??
    I have been betting the simulations @bovada. I placed a ML wager on Dallas vs New England on Tuesday night. The game ended up in a tie,they don’t run overtime in the simulations.They graded the wager as a loss,not a push.After several conversations with support they still say that it was a loss.Am I missing something here?

    Thanks
    Fieldy
  • Hman
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-04-17
    • 21429

    #2
    Fieldy, you picked Dallas to win, which they didn't do.

    Sorry but that equals a loss & Overtime is irrelevant.

    Maybe others who have been playing can chime in if they've seen OT played out or not.
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    • Fieldysnuts44
      SBR MVP
      • 10-02-08
      • 1592

      #3
      Thanks for your response Hman.I guess that I was wrong thinking that it would be a push.I don’t believe I ever had a ML wager end in a tie.Thanks for clearing this up for me and good luck to everyone in their wagers.

      Fieldy
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      • Hman
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-04-17
        • 21429

        #4
        Originally posted by Fieldysnuts44
        Thanks for your response Hman.I guess that I was wrong thinking that it would be a push.I don’t believe I ever had a ML wager end in a tie.Thanks for clearing this up for me and good luck to everyone in their wagers.

        Fieldy


        In real-life sports a ML wager on a regular season game that ended in a tie despite overtime would be a loss.

        It's just not something we're used to and any of us could have overlooked it.

        Best of luck going forward Fieldy!
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        • Bcatswin
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-21-10
          • 13931

          #5
          Get em next time Fieldy!
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          • big joe 1212
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-01-08
            • 19379

            #6
            Are these moneyline bets 3 way lines?
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            • gilbert91016
              SBR MVP
              • 04-29-09
              • 1479

              #7
              Originally posted by Hman
              In real-life sports a ML wager on a regular season game that ended in a tie despite overtime would be a loss.

              It's just not something we're used to and any of us could have overlooked it.

              Best of luck going forward Fieldy!
              NFL SPREADS/TOTAL bets on a regular season game which end in a tie are considered action. While ML bets would be considered PUSH.
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              • big joe 1212
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-01-08
                • 19379

                #8
                Originally posted by gilbert91016
                NFL SPREADS/TOTAL bets on a regular season game which end in a tie are considered action. While ML bets would be considered PUSH.
                That’s what I’m thinking unless the book is offering 3 way lines.
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                • gilbert91016
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-29-09
                  • 1479

                  #9
                  Originally posted by big joe 1212
                  That’s what I’m thinking unless the book is offering 3 way lines.
                  Correct
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                  • pologq
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-07-12
                    • 19899

                    #10
                    is there special language for simulations?
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                    • bonzaii
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-07-17
                      • 5000

                      #11
                      So they just turn the game off if it ends in a tie in regulation on bovada? Madden games don’t end in ties and Bookmaker plays it through till there is a winner. If Bovada is not allowing you to bet a tie/offer 3 way ml like soccer than a ml bet would definitely end in a push. You should keep contacting them about this
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 60668

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Fieldysnuts44
                        I have been betting the simulations @bovada. I placed a ML wager on Dallas vs New England on Tuesday night. The game ended up in a tie,they don’t run overtime in the simulations.They graded the wager as a loss,not a push.After several conversations with support they still say that it was a loss.Am I missing something here?

                        Thanks
                        Fieldy
                        If the market only offers a 2 way line, and there is not some special note about how draws are handled, then it should be a push.

                        But if Bovada checked it, I am guessing you bet on a 3 way line market, with odds for the draw too.
                        .
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388189

                          #13
                          Tremendous info like usual for the bettor
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                          • goduke
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 02-17-10
                            • 11580

                            #14
                            Yeah Hman is right if there’s a three way line but I highly doubt they are offering three way lines for madden sims. If it was just two options and there was no tie option to bet than it should be a push for sure
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                            • PhillipKessel
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 08-01-18
                              • 290

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              If the market only offers a 2 way line, and there is not some special note about how draws are handled, then it should be a push.

                              But if Bovada checked it, I am guessing you bet on a 3 way line market, with odds for the draw too.
                              I haven't seen any 3-way options for the SIM moneylines -
                              They (Bovada) has had standard offerings for spread/moneyline and total - just heavy juice (-115/-115)
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                              • trytrytry
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-13-06
                                • 23649

                                #16
                                they are stealing your money do a complaint and get it back.
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 60668

                                  #17
                                  I just had someone double check and there are only two way lines today.

                                  If you send in a complaint form with the account and bet details we can ask a manager to double check this for you https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
                                  .
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                                  • Fieldysnuts44
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-02-08
                                    • 1592

                                    #18
                                    Thanks for all of the responses.They are not offering 3 way lines on the simulations,that’s why I thought that it would equal a push.I will send it in as a complaint.

                                    Fieldy
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                                    • Fieldysnuts44
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-02-08
                                      • 1592

                                      #19
                                      My bad fellas, I just went back and check the stream on Twitch and apparently they did play overtime and New England won.The stream went offline at the end of 4th qtr and apparently came back on after I left thinking that it was over and a tie.

                                      Had a good day yesterday betting the simulations and off to 2-0 start today.Good luck everyone,sorry for the false info.

                                      Fieldy
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                                      • lonegambler23
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-22-16
                                        • 9761

                                        #20
                                        fading sims heavy
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                                        • HedgeHog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-11-07
                                          • 10128

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Hman
                                          Fieldy, you picked Dallas to win, which they didn't do.





                                          Maybe others who have been playing can chime in if they've seen OT played out or not.
                                          Disregard
                                          Last edited by HedgeHog; 04-09-20, 07:36 PM.
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                                          • raiders72001
                                            Senior Member
                                            • 08-10-05
                                            • 11018

                                            #22
                                            Bookmaker http://twitch.tv/primetimeaction
                                            BOL http://twitch.tv/betonlinemadden
                                            MyBookie http://twitch.tv/mybookiemadden
                                            Bovada http://twitch.tv/livefootballsims

                                            Lots of line movement. BOL opened Dallas at -8.5 over SF and closed at pk.
                                            Last edited by raiders72001; 04-09-20, 07:42 PM.
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                                            • raiders72001
                                              Senior Member
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 11018

                                              #23
                                              Bookmaker taking $2k on Madden.
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                                              • bonzaii
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 07-07-17
                                                • 5000

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by raiders72001
                                                Bookmaker http://twitch.tv/primetimeaction
                                                BOL http://twitch.tv/betonlinemadden
                                                MyBookie http://twitch.tv/mybookiemadden
                                                Bovada http://twitch.tv/livefootballsims

                                                Lots of line movement. BOL opened Dallas at -8.5 over SF and closed at pk.
                                                I was curious about some of those lines at BOL
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                                                • raiders72001
                                                  Senior Member
                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 11018

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by bonzaii
                                                  I was curious about some of those lines at BOL
                                                  SF ended up winning it OT.
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                                                  • Ant23
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 02-14-19
                                                    • 492

                                                    #26
                                                    #shady
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                                                    • Optional
                                                      Administrator
                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                      • 60668

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Fieldysnuts44
                                                      My bad fellas, I just went back and check the stream on Twitch and apparently they did play overtime and New England won.
                                                      .
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                                                      • hustledouble
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 11-26-13
                                                        • 189

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Hman
                                                        In real-life sports a ML wager on a regular season game that ended in a tie despite overtime would be a loss.
                                                        What? No. Unless it is a 3-way line, this would be a push in real-life sports. Look at how ML bets on Lions/Cardinals last season were graded.
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388189

                                                          #29
                                                          Only three ways are graded as a loss
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                                                          • carolinakid
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-12-11
                                                            • 19106

                                                            #30
                                                            ok can someone tell me where to find them in the heritage book, i cant find them nowhere there.
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                                                            • gilbert91016
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-29-09
                                                              • 1479

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by carolinakid
                                                              ok can someone tell me where to find them in the heritage book, i cant find them nowhere there.
                                                              I don’t believe they offer them
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                                                              • carolinakid
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-12-11
                                                                • 19106

                                                                #32
                                                                Thanks, that what i was thinking as i look everywhere on their site and could not find any games odds
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                                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                                  • 65086

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ridiculous posts by hman as a mod

                                                                  that should not be happening
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                                                                  • lonegambler23
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-22-16
                                                                    • 9761

                                                                    #34
                                                                    heard bookmaker taking handles of 100k on one game alone
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                                                                    • littlekona
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 11-19-15
                                                                      • 5241

                                                                      #35
                                                                      so far these are results of the major Book Sims. I suggest you always check your books line and then Fairlay via the APP so see who has best as sometimes BIG difference. Also one cool thing about Fairlay you can parlay games from multiple books. like a game at bovada and bookmaker tie it into a parlay with ease. Also steam players alert there is no API for sims so Danshan has to adjust manually and at times you can beat him as its tough to keep up

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