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beating the rake is hard enough
beating any and all cheats is another thing to consider
withdrawal costs are another
if you are smart enough to beat poker given all that for 50k, then you are smart enough for a 125k job with benefitsComment -
Yes, only playing because of the lockdown.
I’m not claiming that I’m paying the mortgage from my winnings on BetOnline. But I’m not losing money.
Believe what you wish to believe. It is possible to not lose money playing online poker.
Again, it’s not the place to earn a living. But it doesn’t mean that 100% of the players are losing.Comment -
To add on to that........most poker players over value their starting hands K5 suited in early position for example in a 9 handed game)
Apes love hands like that and get themselves in trouble.
Poker isn’t a good game for gamblers. Poker is a game for poker players.Comment -
For those of you who are not aware of the scandal, here is the brief story. In April 2011, the US Department of Justice seized the domains of the three biggest online poker operators in the States. And yes, Full Tilt was one of them. They were all charged for breaking the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006. Millions of dollars were blocked, and players couldn’t get their money back. It was a big hit for the entire poker industry and a huge shock for every person that had an account in the websites of the operators.Comment -
Well, FullTiltPoker was the straw that broke the camels back. Before Black Friday, several big name online poker sites had problems with former employees using their access to scam players out of their money.Comment -
In September 2007, members of Absolute Poker levied accusations of cheating in numerous Internet forums. Specifically, they cited suspicious results of a particular account during a tournament, claiming that this account was able to see other players’ hole cards during play. By October, news of the alleged “superuser” account spurred an investigation by KGC.
After reviewing the complete history of the tournament in question, it was clear that a user named Potripper had access to every other player’s hole cards in the tournament through the use of a master account known as “User 363.”
One player, “CrazyMarco,” contacted Absolute Poker to request his hand histories in a tournament that he thought had questionable play. Instead, CrazyMarco received a master hand history that contained every player’s hole cards, as well as the IP addresses of all players and observers. Of particular interest was a player named “Potripper” who was located in Costa Rica. Further, an observer at each of Potripper’s tables was also located in Costa Rica. This observer moved tables with Potripper during the tournament. The hand histories also illustrated Potripper’s perfect success rate in folding to players with winning hands and successfully bluffing players with weak hands–decisions that simply would not be possible to make without insider information.
Despite initially denying the existence of any master account, Absolute Poker eventually conceded that a master account was, in fact, used to cheat. However, importantly, the company never admitted that it was an inside job.Comment -
The Ultimate Bet Poker Scandal
In January 2008, Ultimate Bet players reported cheating that was similar to what occurred on Absolute Poker. What are the chances that two online poker sites, owned by the same person, licensed by the same commission, and using the same software become embroiled in a similar cheating scandal?
Ultimate Bet also eventually confirmed the existence of “suspect” accounts with “abnormally high winning statistics” after being alerted to suspicious results for an account under the name “NioNio.” Subsequently, six other suspicious player accounts were identified—with 18 different screen names between them—and found to have used a single fraudulent account to target the site’s highest-limit games.
The cheaters relied on a superuser account named “Auditmonster2,” that would observe tables and was able to see everyone player’s hole cards. This account would inform the cheating players, who would then play accordingly—bluff, call bluffs, fold, etc. In some cases, the cheaters would lose on purpose in order to deflect attention. (For a more detailed description of the actual cheating methods, check out this piece.)
In May 2008, Ultimate Bet issued a statement that confirmed cheating had, in fact, occurred between March 2006 and December 2007. A subsequent KGC investigation found that the cheating had been going on since 2004, and had cost players millions of dollars. The Commission fined the company $1.5 million and let them continue to operate, thus triggering a mass exodus of players from the site.Comment -
they use more sophisticated cheating nowComment -
Rigged means the RNG. Strange how poker is rigged yet the best players still find ways to win. Odd.
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Lost a pot last night on BetOnline
I raise in late position with JT of hearts
I flop top straight. I also have a flush draw. I fire a bet after the villain checks. He calls.
The turn brings a Jack. I fire again. Villian re-raises. I shove. He tanks and ultimately calls.
River is a Q and I lose to a K high straight.
A lot of guys walk away from that saying “ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED!”
Nope. Just variance.Comment
