OFF track betting

[Madison]

Anyone know a legit site that has the balls to take action without affecting the onsite pool. Forgive me if I already asked, but getting old and multi-tasking getting tougher. Greyhounds my forte but handles so low you end up betting against yourself. I'll get shut off relatively quickly but...

[BrickJames]

5dime has a good rebate race book.

Not sure if they have dogs though.

[Foxx]

I doubt many non-parimutuel places will give you a lot of leash playing the dogs if you are any good.

Got any good dog picks today? You just cap with paper or pencil or you use software?

[trytrytry]

SBR racebook

Derby Lane Matinee

Palm Beach Matinee

[Madison]

5dime has a good rebate race book.

Not sure if they have dogs though.

Thanks, I can bet through TVG but the $$ hit the mutual pool (which is small) and thus I end up affecting (substantially) my odds.

[Madison]

I doubt many non-parimutuel places will give you a lot of leash playing the dogs if you are any good.

Got any good dog picks today? You just cap with paper or pencil or you use software?

Eyes only. Takes work.

In the 80's I was one of the best around. Biscayne/Hollywood, however the weekend pool could reach 1Mil. Thus my bets didn't affect the odds much. Now the pools are maybe WPS $800. Bet $20 and you cut your odds in half. Currently playing IA but the return not worth the work. In my heyday I'd put in 3 hours work a day but the work was worth it. Have plenty of winner's you just can't bet any $$.

[Madison]

SBR racebook

Derby Lane Matinee

Palm Beach Matinee

What my return a free pizza occasionally. LOL.

[Madison]

I doubt many non-parimutuel places will give you a lot of leash playing the dogs if you are any good.

Got any good dog picks today? You just cap with paper or pencil or you use software?

Exactly. The next book will be the 6th or 7th to tell me to go away.

[jjgold]

dogs rigged so very low limits offshore

They drug dogs not to run well on any given day

[Madison]

I doubt many non-parimutuel places will give you a lot of leash playing the dogs if you are any good.

Got any good dog picks today? You just cap with paper or pencil or you use software?

Have a couple tonight at IA but apparently they may be trying to adjust the surface as it's been way way wide favoring. If they even it out a bit will have a ton of rail runners. Unfortunately tonight you need to handicap the track and see what the changes bring. Even so you can't bet any real $$ hence my post.

[Madison]

dogs rigged so very low limits offshore

They drug dogs not to run well on any given day

Dude hook me up with legit book who won't taint the pool. They'll cry wolf in a month.

[Madison]

SBR racebook

Derby Lane Matinee

Palm Beach Matinee

I was a king at PB in the 80's. Lived in the clubhouse, but in the 80's the 1st turn was a bitch. Some almost ended up in my lap. Thank god for the plexiglass. LOL

[Madison]

dogs rigged so very low limits offshore

They drug dogs not to run well on any given day

I can only wish you had legit $$ to handle my $$.

[SBR Tony]

are they still closing all dog tracks in FL at the end of the year?

[BigJay]

Eyes only. Takes work.

In the 80's I was one of the best around. Biscayne/Hollywood, however the weekend pool could reach 1Mil. Thus my bets didn't affect the odds much. Now the pools are maybe WPS $800. Bet $20 and you cut your odds in half. Currently playing IA but the return not worth the work. In my heyday I'd put in 3 hours work a day but the work was worth it. Have plenty of winner's you just can't bet any $$.

There was a college kid who would come to the track and get hammered on Friday afternoons/ evenings when I would go about twice a month to play ponies simulcast,

He’d bet about $400-600 to win and place on a dog each race. We’d try and explain to him that he was basically betting against himself, and he was the reason the odds on his dog each race were 2-to-1 or less, and usually less than even money. But he wouldn’t listen.

I’m sure he had a nice trust fund he was bleeding dry. Dude must have gone through $3-5k a night minimum when I watched him. It was crazy watching him.

[unusialsusp5]

the palm beach trifecta and superfecta pools are all that's left for anyone betting over 10.00 tickets. win pools are for the 2.00 bettors only now. palm beach has higher minimums than all the rest that are left so small bettors don't play there. they prefer sanford orlando now because of the .10 supers which palm beach does not allow.

[Madison]

are they still closing all dog tracks in FL at the end of the year?

That's what I'm being told.

[Brooklyn Dick]

Madison, were you around Flagler and Biscayne when a guy known as Binocular Bob was in action.

[Madison]

Madison, were you around Flagler and Biscayne when a guy known as Binocular Bob was in action.

I played mostly Biscayne and Hollywood. Not familiar with BB but knew most of the big knockers in the 80's and early 90's. Was great times.
Usually went North to PB when Flagler was running.

[ThaWoj]

Yeah like someone said 5dimes. They have more than a few dog tracks and there's some sort of rebate on your action. Limits could be small. I had exacta and trifecta limits of $10 at certain horse tracks when I was a horse degen not long ago

[Madison]

Yeah like someone said 5dimes. They have more than a few dog tracks and there's some sort of rebate on your action. Limits could be small. I had exacta and trifecta limits of $10 at certain horse tracks when I was a horse degen not long ago

The issue is the pathetic pools. You can play around with tri's etc where there is some value but the pools are so small (wps about 1K) if your lucky that any bet you make you are effectively betting against yourself. I went to Southland the other day and it wasn't much better.

[jjgold]

Horses lol

I am an expert and a moderator YOU CANNOT WIN

Bet pennies ok for fun

[SBR Tony]

Horses lol

I am an expert and a moderator YOU CANNOT WIN

Bet pennies ok for fun

they are talking about DOGS

[jjgold]

Dogs even worse, if you bet dogs really get to a Dr

[littlekona]

Anyone know a legit site that has the balls to take action without affecting the onsite pool. Forgive me if I already asked, but getting old and multi-tasking getting tougher. Greyhounds my forte but handles so low you end up betting against yourself. I'll get shut off relatively quickly but...

Looselines and BOL had but have not seen recently. BOL had huge bet limits 2K while looselines 100$ If you contact the support they may add as I have requested horse tracks not listed in past and they have accommodated most requests. If you follow a circuit like Palm Beach, Derby or Southland dogs can be very profitable BUT you have to follow it close. Back 25 years ago I played the Phoenix and Southland Dogs every day. knew them by heart running styles ect once you know how they break, if they rush up and if they are inside or wide runners you have huge edge.

[Madison]

they are talking about DOGS

Can you guarantee me JJ can payout and I'll do the work and clean him (not that that takes much) as long as he doesn't lay the bets off onsite.

[Madison]

Dogs even worse, if you bet dogs really get to a Dr

Shows how little you know.

[Madison]

Looselines and BOL had but have not seen recently. BOL had huge bet limits 2K while looselines 100$ If you contact the support they may add as I have requested horse tracks not listed in past and they have accommodated most requests. If you follow a circuit like Palm Beach, Derby or Southland dogs can be very profitable BUT you have to follow it close. Back 25 years ago I played the Phoenix and Southland Dogs every day. knew them by heart running styles ect once you know how they break, if they rush up and if they are inside or wide runners you have huge edge.

A man with a semblance of a clue. Thank you. I used to bet into 600K-1MIL pools in S Fla with a 15% takeout. Key here is it takes a ton of work. Betting into 5K (total) pools the work is not worth it.

[Madison]

Looselines and BOL had but have not seen recently. BOL had huge bet limits 2K while looselines 100$ If you contact the support they may add as I have requested horse tracks not listed in past and they have accommodated most requests. If you follow a circuit like Palm Beach, Derby or Southland dogs can be very profitable BUT you have to follow it close. Back 25 years ago I played the Phoenix and Southland Dogs every day. knew them by heart running styles ect once you know how they break, if they rush up and if they are inside or wide runners you have huge edge.

The limits don't mean crap anymore. 20 WPS affects the odds substantially. A great era of my life is gone.

Also, dogs never had a human riding them with the ability to alter their performance.

[ThaWoj]

The issue is the pathetic pools. You can play around with tri's etc where there is some value but the pools are so small (wps about 1K) if your lucky that any bet you make you are effectively betting against yourself. I went to Southland the other day and it wasn't much better.

Pools don't matter. Playing on 5dimes or any offshore it's not going to be pari-mutual. You could bet 500 on a 5-1 shot and he'll still be 5-1.

[Madison]

Pools don't matter. Playing on 5dimes or any offshore it's not going to be pari-mutual. You could bet 500 on a 5-1 shot and he'll still be 5-1.

You've been here a long time and always seem intelligent. I just can't believe they'd let me hang around for long.

No offense ThaWoj but is there a mod or someone who can confirm this?

Shame the game is almost dead.

BOL.

[trytrytry]

You've been here a long time and always seem intelligent. I just can't believe they'd let me hang around for long.

No offense ThaWoj but is there a mod or someone who can confirm this?

Shame the game is almost dead.

BOL.

its true but they have $10 max wager limit on dogs and a max net profit on the exotics also

[Madison]

its true but they have $10 max wager limit on dogs and a max net profit on the exotics also

Thx you. There's always a catch. $10 is not worth the work for me. I need to bet 100's to make the ROI worth the effort.

Check out Rasta at IA. They pay out .10 but I realize it's a bridge jumper. LOL But people wait a year to make 10% on their $$.

[biggie12]

Madison call me ill take your action.

[jjgold]

The best thing you could ever do and I’m a horse moderator is never make a horse wager



You could not beat the hold