Jamie Moyer Complaining About Move to Bullpen?

[VegasDave]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090811&content_id=6369732&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Pretty lame in my opinion. I mean I get where he's coming from; they told him this wouldn't happen... but who could have seen 1) Blanton and Happ's emergence 2) Lee trade 3) Pedro signing coming?

Seems pretty selfish to me for him to speak up about this. He has SUCKED this year. Pedro was obviously signed to be given a chance in the starting rotation, and was a great gamble for Philly. Someone had to go.

You have your young ace Cole Hamels and last year's Cy Young winner and ace in Cliff Lee that obviously aren't going anywhere. That leaves...

Blanton: 132 IP, 111 Ks, 4.02 ERA, 1.30 WHIP
Happ: 115 IP, 86 Ks, 2.74 ERA, 1.12 WHIP
Moyer: 123 IP, 69 Ks, 5.47 ERA, 1.51 WHIP

Does Moyer really think him staying in the rotation gives the team the best chance to win? I know it sucks, but what ever happened to "doing what is best for the team?"

[rake922]

Jamie Moyer is a hall of famer and class act that deserves respect. He has the most career wins vs the most of the teams in the league or leagues such as

[VegasDave]

Hall of famer? Check
Class act? Check

If they had a 10 game division lead, I'm all for keeping him in the rotation out of respect. With a 3.5 game lead in the division and no buffer whatsoever in the Wild Card race with Colorado and San Fran both right there, you need to field your best team, not make sure no one's feelings get hurt.

[element1286]

Moyer and Happ are more or less the same. Happ has been a little lucky being an extreme flyball pitcher, but not giving up many HR's.

[head_strong]

Surprising from a vet like himself, at this stage in his career he should be willing to do whatever helps his team win.

[robmpink]

Moyer a hof? Hahahah. He was burnt out last year and would have done the same this year.

[robmpink]

Surprising from a vet like himself, at this stage in his career he should be willing to do whatever helps his team win.

I'm suprised you heard of him.

[pavyracer]

He needs to be in the rotation so the Braves can win the division.

[BobHarvey]

If they've got a HOF for active players over 45...he's in. Otherwise I don't think his body of work makes him HOF eligible.

[rake922]

He needs to be in the rotation so the Braves can win the division.

That's what the phils want because playing in the wildcard is more impressive to most

[VegasDave]

Hard to say, career ERA over 4.20 doesn't help. 250+ wins... might be one of those "let them in because they pitched so damn long" types. Either way, he doesn't belong in this rotation.

[AMBlai01]

Moyer has been awful this year and he is 293293289 years old. 205 wins are only because he pitched soooooo long but if you let him in to the HOF...then you have to say that Shilling is a lock which i don't think he is and then you have to say that Mussina probably deserves to be in too and i don't think he does either...

[InTheHole]

guys old

[flyingillini]

Great info dave!

[Chi_archie]

with his old bones, you'll need to tell him to warm up to pitch the 7th inning... right around the 3rd inning..... for him to finally get loose

[MrMonkey]

I come home to see this crap! Moyer, what a POS!!! Yea, good guy until things don't go your way! From DD's article, what highest ERA in league? What does this guy expect, if Pedro fails he gets back in the rotation! Misled??? Who was going to give him a 2yr 13 mil contract? Nobody but the Phils!

What is sports coming to anymore! The guy you least expect to hear complain now is doing it! The guy has absolutely no shot at the Hall of Fame! And that opinion didn't just start now!

[The HG]

I know it sucks, but what ever happened to "doing what is best for the team?"

And also whatever happened to "I can't even hit my age on the radar gun anymore, but I'm still in the big leagues! Yippee!"

[Nickelicious]

Love his endurance, but he exposed his selfishness with his whining. All he cares about is chalking up wins, trying to pitch until he's 50 and chasing 300, which he will never, ever get close to.

If Bert Blyleven can't make it into the Hall, you think I'd let Moyer in? Bert is a class act and was wicked year after year in his day. Moyer had one superlative year and has dog paddled through every other season.

[rm18]

no chance at the hall unless he pitches like 6 more years

[Shortstop]

I don't think Moyer is a HOF pitcher.

[TPowell]

failed ****ing athalete

[tacomax]

Hard to say, career ERA over 4.20 doesn't help. 250+ wins... might be one of those "let them in because they pitched so damn long" types. Either way, he doesn't belong in this rotation.

If he gets in the Hall Of Fame then Jeff Weaver is a fukkin' lock.

But seriously, I agree. He should quit whining and be thankful that he's still pitching at the age of 46. If anyone should be pissed off it's Pedro who is 9 years younger, is a HoF lock and had to sit out most of the season before accepting a $1mil contract.

[TPowell]

nice one taco

[head_strong]

good one taco.....

[tacomax]

Thanks guys. While my inner voice is telling me that people are saying any old shit to bump up their post count, my heart tells me that these are compliments coming from deep within your respective souls.

[Doug]

he should just accept it.

[Mikail]

I respect Moyer's career. With that being said I am dissapointed in his statement. I can understand his disappointment but all this shows is that he is more concerned with his own careeer than what is best for his team.

[Nickelicious]

If anyone should be pissed off it's Pedro who is 9 years younger, is a HoF lock and had to sit out most of the season before accepting a $1mil contract.

Pedro is the Sandy Koufax of our generation. I wish him the best.

Well, a lot older than Koufax when Koufax retired, but he was unstoppable for several years.

[Mikail]

Pedro is the Sandy Koufax of our generation. I wish him the best.

Well, a lot older than Koufax when Koufax retired, but he was unstoppable for several years.

Lets see how Pedro fairs tommorrow. I think his performance vs the cubs will speak volumes!

[rm18]

I think he will pitch well, his velocity is up Aramis Ramirez out

[Shortstop]

Good one Taco!

[cap10]

moyer ;; go away;; retire;; only sad thing is i have one less guy to fade

[jsmithj88]

wat makes pedro better than moyer?
moyer has been the better pitcher that last couple of years
if anything, it shud be pedro starting off in the bullpen

[Nickelicious]

wat makes pedro better than moyer?
moyer has been the better pitcher that last couple of years
if anything, it shud be pedro starting off in the bullpen

Are you talking dominance throughout a career, which is what the HOF writers consider for induction? If so, there is no comparison. Pedro kicks Moyer's ass no matter how you look at it.

[head_strong]

Send him down to the minors for a few days, then see what he has to say.....